I noticed that some short flowering strains can get very potent and have large yields by the end of September or sooner. Whats the benefit to growing strains that finish at the end of October or November?
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What are the benefits of late flowering varieties?
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This is a perceptual / preferential question.
First of all, take your mindset away from the cannabis culture. Late flowering varieties offer genetic diversity from the plants you are growing now. Genetic diversity of different resistances to pests/diseases, different uptake of nutrients, different root exudates (speculation on my part). The jist is that you are not growing a monoculture. Mono-culture is the growing of one plant (either species or in this case varieties, and could be just clones!).
A story on monoculture. Dutch elm disease hit the USA sometime in the 1900s (cant be bothered to google right now). Basically the American Elm (which got a disease brought from the netherlands area - hence dutch elm disease) was the most prevalent tree to be planted along roads, walkways, etc. It had a perfect shape for a shade tree, large singular trunk that doesn't branch until much higher than most trees. (lookup the shape of an american elm vs an oak) So when the disease hit, our roads and campuses started losing trees. It didn't stop. You are hard pressed to find american elms now-a-days (ESPECIALLY large groups/areas of them).
My uni campus was affected. They decided to plant zelcovias(spelling idk.) which are similar shape to american elms (nowhere near as desirable, kind of a let down) Anyways, when these trees started to color up in the fall, the university staff was displeased, as they didn't turn color in unison.
They decided to use a clone version of a zelcovia so that they would all lose their leaves at the same time. The campus quad is now surrounded by genetically ONE tree...lets just wait for the outcome.
If you can read between the lines, the moral of the story is that genetic diversity is necessary for a sustainable life.
While this may not be the best outcome for your farm/garden this season, genetic diversity is MUCH better for your garden, environment, and sustainability than clones of the same plant year after year after year.
Now back to canna-culture.
People will tell you its more 'sativa' or more NLD (narrow leaf dominant)
Sativa / NLD plants usually have a more uplifting high (not as couch lock)
Also mold resistance can be better as the buds are usually fluffier, and other reasons I am probably unaware of.
More unique flavors and smells can be found on NLD if you are used to WLD (wide leaf dominant or 'indica')
Your harvest can be spread out over the course of the season with different timed flowering plants.
This is a perceptual / preferential question.
First of all, take your mindset away from the cannabis culture. Late flowering varieties offer genetic diversity from the plants you are growing now. Genetic diversity of different resistances to pests/diseases, different uptake of nutrients, different root exudates (speculation on my part). The jist is that you are not growing a monoculture. Mono-culture is the growing of one plant (either species or in this case varieties, and could be just clones!).
A story on monoculture. Dutch elm disease hit the USA sometime in the 1900s (cant be bothered to google right now). Basically the American Elm (which got a disease brought from the netherlands area - hence dutch elm disease) was the most prevalent tree to be planted along roads, walkways, etc. It had a perfect shape for a shade tree, large singular trunk that doesn't branch until much higher than most trees. (lookup the shape of an american elm vs an oak) So when the disease hit, our roads and campuses started losing trees. It didn't stop. You are hard pressed to find american elms now-a-days (ESPECIALLY large groups/areas of them).
My uni campus was affected. They decided to plant zelcovias(spelling idk.) which are similar shape to american elms (nowhere near as desirable, kind of a let down) Anyways, when these trees started to color up in the fall, the university staff was displeased, as they didn't turn color in unison.
They decided to use a clone version of a zelcovia so that they would all lose their leaves at the same time. The campus quad is now surrounded by genetically ONE tree...lets just wait for the outcome.
If you can read between the lines, the moral of the story is that genetic diversity is necessary for a sustainable life.
While this may not be the best outcome for your farm/garden this season, genetic diversity is MUCH better for your garden, environment, and sustainability than clones of the same plant year after year after year.
Now back to canna-culture.
People will tell you its more 'sativa' or more NLD (narrow leaf dominant)
Sativa / NLD plants usually have a more uplifting high (not as couch lock)
Also mold resistance can be better as the buds are usually fluffier, and other reasons I am probably unaware of.
More unique flavors and smells can be found on NLD if you are used to WLD (wide leaf dominant or 'indica')
Your harvest can be spread out over the course of the season with different timed flowering plants.
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Gotta have plants that finish with whatever weather is thrown at them. whenever planning a decent sized outdoor grow, I try to have at least 3 or 4 varieties, with some early finishers in the group, and some later finishers.
Despite knowing the 2-3 week window when we usually get the wet, cold weather in the fall, it changes year to year. It's nice to have plants that are only, maybe 1/3 into flowering when the wet weather hits, so they don't turn into balls of mold. If plants are 2/3 into flowering when it gets super wet and a little cool, everything molds up and you have to chop early to get anything at all.
Other reasons to grow late finishers are for strain preference, as far as the type of bud a unique strain gives you, and possibly higher yields from longer growth times.
Despite knowing the 2-3 week window when we usually get the wet, cold weather in the fall, it changes year to year. It's nice to have plants that are only, maybe 1/3 into flowering when the wet weather hits, so they don't turn into balls of mold. If plants are 2/3 into flowering when it gets super wet and a little cool, everything molds up and you have to chop early to get anything at all.
Other reasons to grow late finishers are for strain preference, as far as the type of bud a unique strain gives you, and possibly higher yields from longer growth times.
you get to meet all the local hunters as the season is open .......yeehaw... the high from some haze/sativas is trippy and some peeps like that
Good points. Diversity served me right last year. Some of my late sativas made it through the rains into a sun break to finish up. Loving that! So, sativas have more exotic flavors? If thats true I see why so many folks cross indicas and sativas! Faster flowering with unique flavors... Some strains that I'm going to try this year outdoors are those normal strains crossed with an autoflower which have created some strains that finish flowering at the end of August. I'm curious, is the bud going to come out any good? Anybody tried those? Their not auto's, they just flower extremely early from their auto lineage.
Midwest sticky
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A lot of sativas will give spicy or incense like flavor, some fLoral and fruity.it's impossible to know how those will turn out till ya give em a whirl. I hope they turn out super sticky huge buds for ya.
What you're referring to as sativa I will call NLD (narrow leaf dominant) type cannabis.
What I was saying was that IF you are used to indica or WLD (wide leaf dominant) than yes the flavors of the NLD will be more exotic. It is all preferential though, as what may be exotic to me may not be exotic to you.
Really the sativa/NLD (late flowering) will just be different than you are used to indica/WLD.
More sativa dominant strains will have less of a twitch when it comes to being sent into flower when grown outdoor. Not all strains will begin to flower at the same time. I've grown kush's outside who were heavily pistilating by July 16th and I've grown 80/20 Sativas who weren't flowering until mid august almost september. But at 39 north 2100' I was able to grow a plant until Halloween so I narrowly beat the heavy rains but can't argue with results. Much higher yields with far more complexity in the flavors.
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tropicannayeah
the quality, depth, duration, altitude and positive vibe of the high from long flowering varieties is usually better than the fast finishing varieties (in my opinion, that is 
...and as other's have mentioned, it's best to grow a variety of strains outdoors that will (depending on your climate and latitude) finish early~late.
...and as other's have mentioned, it's best to grow a variety of strains outdoors that will (depending on your climate and latitude) finish early~late.DEATH BY SNUSNU
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Personal preference friend! When I used to hit up the movies I would just bounce when the credits run because I got my entertainment but I would smh at folks still seated watching the creds. I forgot what flick did it first but I started noticing extra footage , bloopers etc.
Later harvesting can be the same. Your affies will loose the saty sparkle that's been crossed with them but they will get tremendously narcotic in stone the more red and amber heads appear. Now the narrow leaf are generaly considered more up, they have a electricity to them some spicy some fruity or even meaty, but I feel the longer these go the more the cann profile increases because the continue to throw fresh clears and milkys while some are going red and amber giving you a great no ceiling effect. By all means grow what grows the best logically for your area get all that dialed, have all the kush and goo and gdp you could want and then let the experiment begin, If you peep the yogurt cup challenge there are peeps using landrace crosses in micro grows. The equatorial strains are the stuff of legend and are responsible for our lovely variety we have today. One Ive always wanted to try was the Malawi gold, heard it made people freak the f out from a 4th chemical thcv ?
Later harvesting can be the same. Your affies will loose the saty sparkle that's been crossed with them but they will get tremendously narcotic in stone the more red and amber heads appear. Now the narrow leaf are generaly considered more up, they have a electricity to them some spicy some fruity or even meaty, but I feel the longer these go the more the cann profile increases because the continue to throw fresh clears and milkys while some are going red and amber giving you a great no ceiling effect. By all means grow what grows the best logically for your area get all that dialed, have all the kush and goo and gdp you could want and then let the experiment begin, If you peep the yogurt cup challenge there are peeps using landrace crosses in micro grows. The equatorial strains are the stuff of legend and are responsible for our lovely variety we have today. One Ive always wanted to try was the Malawi gold, heard it made people freak the f out from a 4th chemical thcv ?
Not necessarily, bigdank is asking about late flowering varieties which may or may not have a higher yield than the varieties he already has. The late flowering variety he gets should specifically state it is a high yielding variety if that is what he's going for.
late flowering buds are usually lighter, sometimes brighter green. if you sell product the "hydro looking" buds sell quickly and at a higher price. this is a big deal in my area.
not one of my best examples but one i currently have in my albums. seeds of africa malawi gold harvested 11/15.
longer flowering times equate often (depends on strain) into much higher yields.
not one of my best examples but one i currently have in my albums. seeds of africa malawi gold harvested 11/15.
longer flowering times equate often (depends on strain) into much higher yields.
