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JointOperation
Active member
how do you guys prevent your back from hurting.. while trimming multiple pounds..
OranguTrump
Crotchety Old Crotch
Never trimmed large amounts, but wet trim is easier to control & aim than dry. Dry fragments go everywhere. Also, wet shrinks into tidy buds if done right, why wait until it's dry?
I trimmed wet for almost 2 decades. Recently trimmed dry a few times and theres no difference in final product, taste exactly the same. Dry trimming is actually easier for me and im going to continue doing dry trims, just works better for my daily schedule by breaking up the process into 2 stages. The drying process is way more important then dry or wet trimmed and hitting correct humidity % for jarring is equally important.
SmokinErb22
Member
Used to trim wet. I now prefer dry trimming.
90%-100% of my fan leaves are removed during the late-flowering stage. On harvest day I simply cut the main stem, and hang the whole plant upside down. Snip off the last few fan leaves that are left. The whole process takes less than 1 minute per plant.
Once plants are dry to the point of the smaller branches snapping (large stems still bending/giving suddenly, without cracking), I strip them off the branches and place them into a paper bag. These get "tossed" around daily to mix up the buds/air in the bag, and let out excessive moisture. This also does most of my trimming for me. The crispy outer leaves typically break off and form shake at the bottom of the bag.
After a few days (3-5) of daily "tossing" in a paper sack - which I just shake the bag gently mixing up the buds - I move the buds into glass jars. Note, that I STILL haven't trimmed off the sugar leaf. 75% of the sugar trim is already in the bottom of the paper sacks (and honestly pass my "i'd smoke that" test, I'm not that picky) . The remaining leaf will typically fall off in my jars as I mix the buds up in the jars knocking off the leaf to the bottom of the jar same as the paper bags.
That's right. I don't trim. Fans clipped during the growth cycle. Sugar trim allowed to fall off on its own. My buds may not be perfect dispensary trimmed with every single leaf removed, but 95-99% of the leaf is gone by the time its up for sale. Any remaining significant leaf gets removed by hand/scissor as its packaged.
My bud has never smelled better, never tasted better. I struggled a while back with "hay" weed, a result of trimming while wet. Dry trimming kept my sanity.
Edit: Although, this is my process for the bulk of my product, I do trim my main colas separately with care. Still trim them dry, but they get handled much more gentle. I keep these though, so....
90%-100% of my fan leaves are removed during the late-flowering stage. On harvest day I simply cut the main stem, and hang the whole plant upside down. Snip off the last few fan leaves that are left. The whole process takes less than 1 minute per plant.
Once plants are dry to the point of the smaller branches snapping (large stems still bending/giving suddenly, without cracking), I strip them off the branches and place them into a paper bag. These get "tossed" around daily to mix up the buds/air in the bag, and let out excessive moisture. This also does most of my trimming for me. The crispy outer leaves typically break off and form shake at the bottom of the bag.
After a few days (3-5) of daily "tossing" in a paper sack - which I just shake the bag gently mixing up the buds - I move the buds into glass jars. Note, that I STILL haven't trimmed off the sugar leaf. 75% of the sugar trim is already in the bottom of the paper sacks (and honestly pass my "i'd smoke that" test, I'm not that picky) . The remaining leaf will typically fall off in my jars as I mix the buds up in the jars knocking off the leaf to the bottom of the jar same as the paper bags.
That's right. I don't trim. Fans clipped during the growth cycle. Sugar trim allowed to fall off on its own. My buds may not be perfect dispensary trimmed with every single leaf removed, but 95-99% of the leaf is gone by the time its up for sale. Any remaining significant leaf gets removed by hand/scissor as its packaged.
My bud has never smelled better, never tasted better. I struggled a while back with "hay" weed, a result of trimming while wet. Dry trimming kept my sanity.
Edit: Although, this is my process for the bulk of my product, I do trim my main colas separately with care. Still trim them dry, but they get handled much more gentle. I keep these though, so....
mendo-local
Member
@smokinherb- you might as well get a dry trim machine. ... or wait.... maybe everyone with a dry trim machine should just toss the buds around in a paper bag untill the leaves fall off?
SmokinErb22
Member
Well I'm sure a machine would do a better job but my method works for me. Most of the leaf comes off in the first day when the outer bud is still real crispy. As the moisture evens out throughout the bud the leaf has less of a tendency to break off.
Again though, I'm not super anal about it. I'm sure most of you guys trim your stuff better than mine. Here's a pic of some stuff that just came out of my paper bags for 3 days. Still some leaf on there, but I'd smoke it as it is.
Again though, I'm not super anal about it. I'm sure most of you guys trim your stuff better than mine. Here's a pic of some stuff that just came out of my paper bags for 3 days. Still some leaf on there, but I'd smoke it as it is.
^perfect.
This is how flowers should be sold to the public in my opinion. Chop, De-fan everything with a stem, and hang for a nice long slow dry.
De-bone, sweat some of the extra moisture, and it's gone.
Great example SE!
If they want me to bang it around a bit to knock off the frosted tips here and here then I'll give the people what they want, but otherwise the pics above are perfectly fine. A little candy coating shell to preserve the dank below. Way superior aromas and quality this way...
Spending hours trimming beyond the above pic is a waste of time and energy in my opinion.
I'd like to fine trim a unit of that.. see what the weight is of those fine bits, and pad the unit that amount. The next down down the line can either reap more profits or pick through it themselves for some free bits for concentrate or edibles, what have you...
This works well for a lot of strains.. obviously there are some exceptions.
This is how flowers should be sold to the public in my opinion. Chop, De-fan everything with a stem, and hang for a nice long slow dry.
De-bone, sweat some of the extra moisture, and it's gone.
Great example SE!
If they want me to bang it around a bit to knock off the frosted tips here and here then I'll give the people what they want, but otherwise the pics above are perfectly fine. A little candy coating shell to preserve the dank below. Way superior aromas and quality this way...
Spending hours trimming beyond the above pic is a waste of time and energy in my opinion.
I'd like to fine trim a unit of that.. see what the weight is of those fine bits, and pad the unit that amount. The next down down the line can either reap more profits or pick through it themselves for some free bits for concentrate or edibles, what have you...
This works well for a lot of strains.. obviously there are some exceptions.
OgOrganics
New member
Great thread. Lets talk about different methods of wet trimming and dry trimming.
Wet trimming: do you guys trim the buds on or off the stem? I know people that chop all of the buds off plant, trim, and then dry on screens. I also know people that cut branches off the plant, pluck fan leaves, and trim the buds while still on the branch. The branches are then hung on hanging trellis netting until the buds snap off the branches.
Dry trimming: some people cut and hang the whole plant, fan leaves included. Once the branches are dry enough to snap, the fan leaves are cut off and then the buds are trimmed and removed from the stem. Others cut the plant into smaller sections and remove all fan leaves before allowing the plant to dry and then the buds are trimmed and removed from the stem. A third way ive seen is the fan leaves are removed from plants stripped of their buds, dried on a screen and trimmed once dried.
Wet trimming: do you guys trim the buds on or off the stem? I know people that chop all of the buds off plant, trim, and then dry on screens. I also know people that cut branches off the plant, pluck fan leaves, and trim the buds while still on the branch. The branches are then hung on hanging trellis netting until the buds snap off the branches.
Dry trimming: some people cut and hang the whole plant, fan leaves included. Once the branches are dry enough to snap, the fan leaves are cut off and then the buds are trimmed and removed from the stem. Others cut the plant into smaller sections and remove all fan leaves before allowing the plant to dry and then the buds are trimmed and removed from the stem. A third way ive seen is the fan leaves are removed from plants stripped of their buds, dried on a screen and trimmed once dried.
JointOperation
Active member
if no fan leaves.. I get around 1 oz of trim to an LB.. sometimes 2.. depending how close I trim.
SmokinErb22
Member
I'd agree with that ^
That's pretty much why I quit being so anal. I realized I was spending hours picking over buds removing every last leaf... for what? To remove a measly ounce for people who can't tell the difference?
It's a lot easier to just take the time to hand-trim buds further for the people who can tell.
Personally, I want a dry seive tumbler to do my trimming for me. Seems like a perfect device to me. At the end of the hang dry, stick a fan on your plants for ~6 hrs, get 'em extra crispy on the outside. Trim the buds off, toss 'em in a tumbler to collect kif and knock off the leaf. Bag 'em to sweat, jar 'em, ready to go.
That's pretty much why I quit being so anal. I realized I was spending hours picking over buds removing every last leaf... for what? To remove a measly ounce for people who can't tell the difference?
It's a lot easier to just take the time to hand-trim buds further for the people who can tell.
Personally, I want a dry seive tumbler to do my trimming for me. Seems like a perfect device to me. At the end of the hang dry, stick a fan on your plants for ~6 hrs, get 'em extra crispy on the outside. Trim the buds off, toss 'em in a tumbler to collect kif and knock off the leaf. Bag 'em to sweat, jar 'em, ready to go.
No retailer I have known would accept that "trim" job.
SmokinErb22
Member
Yes, I'm aware. I said I don't trim anywhere near what acceptable to a retailer. Fortunately, what I posted is grade AAA in my area. I have actively been looking for "better" stuff - in quotes because its all a matter of opinion - in my area for... years. I have never found anything that surpasses my keepers. There's always some decent stuff come outdoor harvest season, but that can't compare to my indoor.
Retailers that I've seen in Co. seem to like to stock a bunch of synthetic over-fert BS. Yeah its got a tight trim, yeah its pretty. Went out there a few months ago to check the scene out. Most of it just smoked okay. Bland in flavor, some of it was obviously super fresh with no cure, others were absolutely bomb stuff that I'd love to have cuts of... However, I'd put my stuff up against any of it in a blind smoke test.
And to be honest? From what I've seen of the prices retailers pay to growers... i'd tell them to trim it themselves. Then again, high quality cannabis still fetches a premium here. $4k a lb is not uncommon.
Retailers that I've seen in Co. seem to like to stock a bunch of synthetic over-fert BS. Yeah its got a tight trim, yeah its pretty. Went out there a few months ago to check the scene out. Most of it just smoked okay. Bland in flavor, some of it was obviously super fresh with no cure, others were absolutely bomb stuff that I'd love to have cuts of... However, I'd put my stuff up against any of it in a blind smoke test.
And to be honest? From what I've seen of the prices retailers pay to growers... i'd tell them to trim it themselves. Then again, high quality cannabis still fetches a premium here. $4k a lb is not uncommon.
topshelf_sac
Member
I wet trim. I leave the buds on the stem until they feel dry on the outside. I then put them in Tupperware with boveda packs until they're ready.
I also prefer to trim dry for the same reasons stated on the 1st page. Dry trim FTW
Just be careful, those that agree with you have all been banned.
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noyd666
lol yep change yer mind.
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acridlab
I'm still here 
dry or throw that shit away, lol
Peace
dry or throw that shit away, lolPeace
