Your bubble looks interesting, what's your process look like?
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Your bubble looks interesting, what's your process look like?
RedBeardy5
Active member
And this is why MOST dispensaries weed is crap. They cut corners and wet trim to speed everything up. Hang your shit wet and trim dry for a superior product.
RedBeardy5
Active member
And please through those trimming machines in the garbage. I know a few that use them and I can say is good bye quality. Welcome walmart
Last time I dry trimmed, I found it to be a lot more work, and quite frustrating.
By the time I'm done trimming I'm usually on the verge of completely losing my mind I hate trimming!
After my first harvest, I actually questioned my commitment to the plant.
I have seen no difference in quality trimmed either way. I believe that proper drying and curing have more to do with quality than when the plant is trimmed.
By the time I'm done trimming I'm usually on the verge of completely losing my mind I hate trimming!
After my first harvest, I actually questioned my commitment to the plant.
I have seen no difference in quality trimmed either way. I believe that proper drying and curing have more to do with quality than when the plant is trimmed.
topshelf_sac
Member
That bubblehash is incredible! You can dab it and it completely melts. It only turns out like that with this strain, my other strains leave residue and aren't quite as potent or tasty. The strain is sour lifesaver that is in the pic by the hash.
I use a 220 bag>180 "filter bag">90 catch bag, I add a 25 bag on round 2 to catch anything that slipped through the 90, but the quality isn't as good.
I use RO water and ice and hand mix lightly for about five minutes. The key is how you press and dry it.
I scoop the hash and put on the pressing screen. I lay the screen on a towel and VERY LIGHTLY press on the top with a paper towel and wick up as much water as possible. I then flip it over and do it again. The screen then goes in the freezer for about four or five minutes. I then break up the hash on a nonstick cookie sheet and let it dry. I make sure to "unstick" the hash after 24 hours by scraping it with a card and do this once a day until it stops sticking to the sheet. It will be ready in three to seven days.
HerBnGorE(illa)
Member
I have a related question to the thread that hopefully some of the experienced folks on here can chime in on.
To start, I am a micro grower. This grow I went the route of little 12-15 inch budsicles (around 7-8 grams dried/trimmed typically). I'm now preparing for harvest on the earliest of the strains. Flush is complete and I have good yellowing of the fans and such. So for the past couple days I quit flushing and have been allowing the coco to dry out a bit, because I have heard that is what one should do. (Still learning)
Anyways, my question is would there be any advantages/disadvantages to not chopping the plant and just leaving it in the dry pot and letting it dry slowly?? In the past I have had some of that dreaded grassy stench. I believe it is because of how small the plants are they dry too fast. Maybe I'm putting them into jars too soon? I don't know. That's why I'm here.
Thanks everyone for all the information in the thread from both sides.
To start, I am a micro grower. This grow I went the route of little 12-15 inch budsicles (around 7-8 grams dried/trimmed typically). I'm now preparing for harvest on the earliest of the strains. Flush is complete and I have good yellowing of the fans and such. So for the past couple days I quit flushing and have been allowing the coco to dry out a bit, because I have heard that is what one should do. (Still learning)
Anyways, my question is would there be any advantages/disadvantages to not chopping the plant and just leaving it in the dry pot and letting it dry slowly?? In the past I have had some of that dreaded grassy stench. I believe it is because of how small the plants are they dry too fast. Maybe I'm putting them into jars too soon? I don't know. That's why I'm here.
Thanks everyone for all the information in the thread from both sides.
JointOperation
Active member
proly just drying too fast to be honest... maybe make a little drying chamber.. a tote with something in it to keep the nugs off the bottom.. maybe a small tote and cookie cooling tray.. something along those lines.. if its dry before 7 days its drying too fast.
Brilliant. Which controller do you use?
This is right on the $. I honestly think from reading these sites that no one really knows what is going on during the curing process at the very least, though there is some intuition.
Side-by-side would be great. I'll see if I can do it next time around...
In the mass amount of pages in this thread, there have been no lack of comments such as these. But without saying anything about whether you have done a side-by-side with a RH-controlled drying process, you're not contributing anything here.
So yeah, when you've trimmed wet have you controlled the RH? What was the environment like?
topshelf_sac
Member
I disagree with that as well. I wet trim and my buds turn out great. The reason most bud is crap is because it was grown crappily. It was grown in a less than perfect environment, over fertilized to push bigger yields and probably trimmed/dried in a less than perfect environment.
If someone grows a great crop it won't be ruined by wet trimming LOL. I have grown for almost 20 years and know that wet trimming is fine if you do it correctly. I hand trim everything and don't want to deal with the hassle of dry trimming, plus I believe you lose more trichomes that way.
There is a lot of hyperbole about trimming in this thread which is par for the course with the typical scare tactics and misinformation these forums can spread. In the end it really won't make a difference which way you trim if you use common sense so just relax and do your thing.
I've been ordering egg incubators hygrometers off of ebay. Think I payed $30 or $40 for a plug and play one but you can get just the controller with wires and set the jumper switches the way you want. The cool thing about these is you could use them to control a heater or co2 gen in a greenhouse. They can be set to raise or lower humidity.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Humidit...895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462b54d64f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hygrostat-h...008?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2b9742f0
I still think I payed less for the plug and play ones might wanna look around.
So the second link just has the wiring done for you? Kind of would like to avoid wiring stuff if possible...
Yep, my thoughts exactly when I ordered one. The second one works great right out of the box. It's simple to select the set point and adjust the dead band.
Yeah^^
But I have to add...
Can't see how dry trimming would be as efficient for anything over a pound (of finished product, so 4 lbs wet). With really good trich covered buds if you go dry i found you really have to leave alot more little leaves on, which ain't a bad thing as long as recipients like it like that...I think the issue there are dispensaries, or other customers, that don't wanna pay for leaves.
Thats funny about more leaf on dry trim, its almost never the case. You might be one of like a dozen people who really wet trim right and get every leaf off back in the nug. The problem is that most just shape the sugar leaves and hang the sticks (why its faster). With dry trimming you are breaking most of the leaves off back inside the nug, there is no other way to do it, that's where they break.
Ill have to try to remember to grab some pics of the same strain done wet (commercial, many many lamps) and dry (commercial, many lamps). You can definitely see that the dry is providing a tighter trim. The advantage to the wet is that you can bring in labor and chop the room over the course of a couple days, and when you are done, you are DONE, just debone and its over. Dry trimming in a way just doesn't lend itself to bringing in labor. really a huge part of the workload with dry trimming is chopping and big leafing.
Again, that's all really strain dependent. Some strains just beg to be wet trimmed, my lavender is one of them, you would be crazy to not just snip those extra like 5 leaves per nug after you big leaf and be done with it. Where the difference really shines in my opinion is in some of the broad leaf indicas that have a lot more leaf in there flower. Dry trimming them is just a thing of beauty.
Also not sure if I mentioned it in this thread, but I am having fantastic luck big leafing, hanging, deboning into turkey bags and then trimming at my own pace. I am seeing no disadvantages so far and it takes all the stress of timing out of the deal. I feel they might almost be stickier for longer than when I trimmed all before bagging. The extra stick might be due to the fact that its so much easier to time it right when your not trying to trim it all before bagging.
Ill have to try to remember to grab some pics of the same strain done wet (commercial, many many lamps) and dry (commercial, many lamps). You can definitely see that the dry is providing a tighter trim. The advantage to the wet is that you can bring in labor and chop the room over the course of a couple days, and when you are done, you are DONE, just debone and its over. Dry trimming in a way just doesn't lend itself to bringing in labor. really a huge part of the workload with dry trimming is chopping and big leafing.
Again, that's all really strain dependent. Some strains just beg to be wet trimmed, my lavender is one of them, you would be crazy to not just snip those extra like 5 leaves per nug after you big leaf and be done with it. Where the difference really shines in my opinion is in some of the broad leaf indicas that have a lot more leaf in there flower. Dry trimming them is just a thing of beauty.
Also not sure if I mentioned it in this thread, but I am having fantastic luck big leafing, hanging, deboning into turkey bags and then trimming at my own pace. I am seeing no disadvantages so far and it takes all the stress of timing out of the deal. I feel they might almost be stickier for longer than when I trimmed all before bagging. The extra stick might be due to the fact that its so much easier to time it right when your not trying to trim it all before bagging.
Whole plant is awesome if you can manage it, I just chop and hang above a trash can big leaf really well and hang the whole plant. AT the end of the day it's quite a bit less work, then after there dry grab turkey roasting trays and chop branches into those. Usually my goal is to touch it all as little as possible but do the most effective job I can.
Another thing is an extremely well lit drying/trim room is so important, give your eyes a break and get as many directional lights as you need to see what your doing.
