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Went South Overnight--Overfert? pics included

gOurd^jr.

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Heres the info
Seed plants about one month old Head seeds g33bx#2 test grow

soil mix approximately 50% cocogro, 20% planting compost, 20% wormcastings,10%perlite. Additional organics ina bout 5 gal of mix include about 1 cup Kelp meal,1cupblood meal, 1 cup organic bloom food 3-6-6 1cup dolomite lime. Can't remember if theres more but thats most.

Transplanted from 16oz cups inot 64 Oz cups about two weeks ago. One week ago I fed with Alaska fish 5-1-1 and a bit of Epsom salts. Didn't measure out but around 1 tbsp per gallon Epsoms and About 2 tbsp per gallon Fish emulsions(recommended rate)
lighting is 6x23 watts CFL.

Temps around 75-80F although they climbed to 85 and are sticking there now.

I bubble organic tea to feed. In one gallon tea I bubbled for about 5 days 1/4 cup kelp meal, 1/4 cup worm castings, 1/4 cup bloom food 3-6-6. I diluted that to about 1/3 strength and then I added per gallon approximately 1 tbsp Epsom salts, and 2 tbsp Fish Emulsions 5-1-1.

Soaked teh containers good and got a bit of runoff. Checked them out today and say that one side of the veg box(under 3x23wCFL) had shot upward about an inch while the other side got crisped like you see in the pics.

Plants 1 &3 were on the short side and plants 245 were on the tall side.

From the group shot you start with #1 in the top left and go clockwise.
#3 was severely affected and #1 minorly, #5 shows up different symptom with interveinal rust strips. All of this popped up literally overnight. The lighter green outer margins of plants 1&3 are crispy dry and I couldn't find anything matching in MyNameStitch's sticky. Plant 5 looks like boron deficiency, anyone think they know what I did. Anyone KNOW what I did because they've done it before? Any help greatly appreciated.










 
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1 tablespoon/gal of epsoms? There is a big problem! Those are Burning up. The salts are leaching the water out of the plants.
 

gOurd^jr.

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Ok will do, only 1 was severly affected and one minorly Think I should flush the others also even though they seemed to handle it and even shot upwards in growth??
 

gOurd^jr.

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I gotta head out, no pun intended, and I won't be able to flush till tomorrow but I'll do that and see what happens in the next couple days.

peace love happiness
 

Maj.PotHead

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are ya using city tap water ??? if so dose your city use clorine to sanitize the water ???. if the city water has clorine in it this should sit uncovered for @ least 24 hr in a jug so the clorine can evaporate. clorine can strip the nutriunts from the soil and is bad for the plant

tip on flushing with plain water use 3x in water to dirt {ie} 1 gal soil flush w/3 gal water

Temps around 75-80F although they climbed to 85 and are sticking there now.

cfl bulbs dont produce alot of heat but the ballast's do. try a few small fans blown across the ballast's increase the ventilation ya have also, i use a passive 3 inch black pvc elbow bottom 1 side. not forced fresh air intake and a forced exhaust top other side, my room closed can suck paper into the room through the 3 inch pvc elbow :) also with this elbow no light leaks during lights off. withe pvc elbow light bounces off and into grow during lights off black dosent. the idea is to circulate 3-5 times the room's air per miniute CFM cubic feet miniute

last summer w/outside temps above 115 degrees my grow stayed 82 or below just less then 5 sqft floor grow erea 7 ft total height 400w hps on and a few cfls 45w=150 warm white @2900 lumens each. i had around 9,000 lumens per sqft burning and total 620w in lighting.

my grow erea has flat white painted walls this dosent allow heat to build up like semi/high gloss paints do

grow erea wall covering's

mylar #1
panda paper
cold weather emergancey blanket from sporting good store
flat white paint

and as a very very last resort dull side of tinfoil with fans blown across the foil, dull side dosent collect as much heat as the shiney side but still collects heat !!
 
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good call Grat3fulH3ad :yes:

Theres already pleanty of mg in the soil since you added the dolomite lime already, and a tbsp of epsom is too much even if you hadnt.

Thats some damn strong poop soup your making too gOurd^jr.,
I'd flush those 64 oz cups, plain water until they're better looking, and then pot em up in 3 gal planters and go with a much lighter dilution on that bubbling poop soup (keep it bubblin too). With a fertile soil mix like that, it's often better to not try so hard to feed them more than they desire.

For now, flush em & just plain waterings until they're looking better.
 

gOurd^jr.

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thanks guys, yea I'm still getting the feeding business down but last time I underfed and my yields suffered so this time I'm pushing alittle hard on the poop juice, I'll cut out the Epsom unless they really show a Mg def. I did dilute the tea to 1/3 before I put in the fish emulsions and the epsom.
thanks again all
gOUrd
 

Suby

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Your whole recipe sounds too rich, your feeding them with liquid ferts and strong tea while they already have most of their required nutes in the soil already.
Gr8tfull made a good call, I agree that is what is happening, if you use dolomite lime you'll rarely if ever need to add calcium or magnesium.
You'll have other problems along the way if you don't cut the liquid ferts out.
The teas are meant to give a microbial boost that will accelarate the rate at which the soil ammendments get broken down into a form your plant can uptake, it is NOT a fertilizer, the kelp/seaweed, molasses, and EWC are food for the microbes sampled in the EWC.
The only time you'll need to supplement with fertilizers is if you veg for 6 weeks+ or at the end of flowering with a high P-K fert or just use liquid seaweed and high P batguano.
 
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