Weight gain on neutered doggies

[Guest]

I rescued my best friend back in 1999,convicted of one count of demodex mange he was scheduled for lethal injection a couple days before I got him.A reddish blond german shephard with just a skosh of chow for coloration and curly fry tail lol.He was about a year when I got him so he's pushin 9 years old now.In the past 3 months his eating habits havent changed,but his head is shrinking lol.He's defiantely starting to pack it on,and I don't know why.I could and probably will google this but I wanted to hear first hand experiences on the subject.Anyone's best friend turn into a little porker later in life due to neutering?

 

[DickAnubis]

Hey American,
I've had a couple of doggies and many cats and most of them packed on dress sizes in mid to later life. I don't know if it's neutering per se. When you think about it, us Human dogs expand our waist bands in middle life and keep it going. Maybe just the metabolism changes.
Recently I've switched my pets to a more fresh food diet. Less dry food, which really puts on the lbs, more wet canned food and then straight real foods high in protein like chicken and turkey.
I have three cats over 16 yearsold and they're looking all spry and alert AND they slimmed back down to their fighting weights.
I did the same for my mom's doggie and now she's running and playing like a pup.

SO maybe it's a combo of things that turn out best friends into ottomans.
No nutz and lifestyle habits.

MY two Abes.

PEACE BROTHER DA

 

[Playboy]

I rescued my best friend back in 1999,convicted of one count of demodex mange he was scheduled for lethal injection a couple days before I got him.

Are you serious? Somebody was gonna put him down over mange? Mange is nothing. Ivermectin knocks it out. Probably shouldn't breed the dog but no reason to put the dog down. It's amazing what people do to animals. Glad you saved your buddy before he got put down.

You walk your dog much? If not you need to. That'll keep the weight in check. Spend quality time with your buddy and take him on long walks. Regulate how much you feed him. I've heard neutering a pet will make them fat but who knows. I kept my dog intact and have no plans of breeding him.

Peace

 

[Guest]

I do take him on long walks,usually twice a day at least.Yes,mites are not only a scourge for cannabis,they also fuck with man's best friend in the worst way.They burrow down into each hair folicle and munch out,it's pretty distressing..When he washed up on my driveway,I thought he had been through multiple dogfights.Almost zero fur,skin in patches and open wounds everywhere.I naively called my local pound to get him help.When I called the next day they told me he'd be killed on the 5th day if nobody took him.Yea right,"mommy I want the dog with the flesh hanging off of him lol".Since I jailed him I had to rescue him and it was like adopting a child.They were serious about me being serious about taking care of him properly,I appreciate that but they overdid it a bit.Kinda made me wonder about their function..Anyway,10 mitoban dips and a little over a grand later and he was good as new.Yes my county will kill a dog for mange,they will kill a non-aggressive staffordshire terrier pup just for being a staffordshire terrier pup!It sucks ass in a big way.

 

[Playboy]

Those dips are garbage. You have to have repeated treatments because they're not very effective. The vets like it because it's all about the money. Ivermectin is a liquid that you dose your dog with each day for a period of time and it is very effective unlike the dips. Fucking vets piss me off. Frequently it's all about the money for them. The vets in my area don't know shit other than giving shots. I've had two dogs with health issues that local vets tried to fix themselves rather than recommend I see a specialist. In the first case I had no idea there were specialists so the first dog went through a lot of bullshit with the local vets. When my second dog had issues I went straight to the specialists and the problem was resolved quickly.

 

[BirdDawg]

Demodex can be a death sentence for a dog because it can be difficult and expensive to treat and in some cases, impossible to resolve. Predisposition to Demodex is considered a hereditary problem, so neutering is a good thing.

As for weight gain and neutering, yes, it's quite common. The metabolism slows. I cut feedings by 25%, wait a bit, and go from there, adding or subtracting as we go along. Like aging humans, older dogs tend to be less active and need to have their diet adjusted accordingly. Also like aging humans, keeping trim and fit will help dogs live longer fuller lives. You might be very surprised how much more energy your dog has once the excess weight is gone! For coat and skin and overall health, I prefer to cut the amount of food rather than switch to a "diet" type food.

I've been "in dogs" professionally for 40+ years. Wanted to be a vet, teched for a couple. I groom, show, train, hunt, handle, etc...several breeds in several different dog sports....breed ring, obedience, agility, tracking, field trial, hunt test, etc. Just one of those dog nuts, I guess! Love my canine companions!!!

 

[Guest]

I never heard of that,was it around in 99?Anyway the authorities told me what I needed to do to save the dog,and I did it.It included more than medical treatment,I had to put up fencing and other things.They wanted to make sure I didn't pull the motor oil gig,cheap effective and something I would never even consider lol.Mitoban was effective along with the anti-biotics but it did take 10 or 11 dips at 50 bucks a pop.

 

[Guest]

they will kill a non-aggressive staffordshire terrier pup just for being a staffordshire terrier pup!It sucks ass in a big way.

Like this one ?


About the chubby puppy....More, smaller meals ...switch to a food designed for weight maintenance.
:wink:

 

[Guest]

How right you are granma,I just had an educational dogwalk.I decided to weigh Jerry in at the vet that dipped him in the mitoban,only 77 lbs surprised me very much!Anyway I asked about neutered animals and weight gain and she immediately said thats not Jerry's problem,she sees me walking him at least twice a day,she's on my dogwalk path.It seems many neutered dogs and cats get lazy in midlate life due to the neutering,they just plain become lazy and fat.This is good news for me and Jerry,bad news for his grandma that loves to treat him with chicken hot dogs and Ol Roy slimjims lol.I'm going to have to put my foot down and thats not easy,my moms hapiness or my best friends health...Sorry Jerry.I love dogs though.I talk to all the dogs in the neighborhood when we're out on a dogwalk.I slow down for dogs walking,and as an added bonus their handlers also don't get squashed lol.I should have been a dog.I should be a dog,I have dogman attributes.Disloyalty to family makes me almost physically ill.I believe in loyalty to a certain individual.I like getting my ears scratched and my belly rubbed.I've met so many catwomen,many a monkeywoman,but so few dogwomen lol

 

[Guest]

Man I got so carried away with doglove I forgot to mention the most important thing she taught me,the kilocalories in dogfood and snacks.The FDA doesnt control dogfood so calories are not on the label,but there normally is a 1-800 number to call.What you want to know is kilocalories per cup.If you google dogfood kilocalories there are comparison charts also.Goodbye doglovers,gotta go check in on my dear mamma,and remember doggystyle never goes out of style!

 

[Guest]

the vet actually told me my dog's weight gain was caused by his being neutered

 

[Tarkus]

Mitaban is some serious shit. If you leave it on a dog for too long, it can cause serious nervous system problems, same with if you dip them too many times in a short period of time. Also, it dissolves rubber and takes the ink off of anything you squirt it on. Some wicked, wicked shit.
Oh, and it will kill a cat.
Ivermectin is some wicked stuff too. Seen many a dog that got messed up in a bad way because the owners' thought they knew the correct dosage. Nervous system all whacked, pet them and they scream in pain. Hell, one dog would cry when the fan blew on him, no joke. So be sure you know the dosage, or your buddy could be fucked.

And border collies are effected more by this stuff, so be extra careful with them!

Ten dips is a pretty good amount, I myself knew a dog that had to be dipped 15 or 16 times, by yours truly. That guy was horrible looking when he first came in. No fur what so ever. His ears were solid scabs. He looked so much better (still horrible though) even after the first dip. The stuff can work wonders.

 

[Duppy]

I think that extra sensitivity might extend to German shepherds as well, so ivermectin might not have been an option for this dog. Not sure they even used it on dogs back then. Mange treatment is still an off-label use for it.

And mitaban does do the job on a lot of dogs. Red mange (its other name) is an immune system problem, and some dogs aren't helped enough by any treatment. Bad shit.

 

[Guest]

It sure worked for my dog,but it did take 10-12 dips.I didnt do it I had a vet do it.He could have been a model for dogs with healthy fur when the treatment was completed,it worked beautifully.He went from a dog with no fur and open gaping sores to a red/blond german shepherd.irishSoCo I always confirm newly learned information with Mr. Google himself,he says without equivication that neutering leads to a sedentary lifestyle which leads to obesity.It can be counteracted by exercise and proper diet.It sounds like your vet either was too lazy to explain the full scoop or wasn't aware of it himself.The neutering isn't the pivotal piece in the puzzle,the possible accompanying sedentary lifestyle is the culprit,and it can be controlled.Neutered animals need not be plumpers!

 

[buzzmobile]

Have you had the dog's thyroid level checked?

 

[Guest]

I would hope it would show up in his yearly blood test and shots,I don't know.Wait a sec...the dipstick reads normal..

 

[buzzmobile]

Thyroid level has to be checked with a specific test. If it is off the dog can gain weight with little food intake and lethargy is one of the symptoms of low thyroid level. Some breeds are more prone than others to having low thyroid levels. It's just a suggestion.



Google: Hypothyroidism dogs

 

[Guest]

Thanks Buzz,I have to get some heartguard and advantage this week and I'll bring it up with my dogguy and see what he thinks.

 

[Tarkus]

I worked at a vet, which is why I dipped so many dogs. I really recommend using gloves or something when working with Mitaban, as that shit just scares me slightly. Besides, it stinks to high heaven. I accidentally spilled some of it, before dilution (which if memory serves me, was 5 cc to one gallon of water) on colored grout and whaddya know, it was not colored anymore. Started eating the grout too. Some dogs react badly to it, and some dogs don't react at all to it.
The other type of mange is treated with stuff called Paramite, which also has a unique smell. Not nearly as bad, but can still kill a cat!

 

[Guest]

I'm glad the vet asst. doing the dipping back in 2000 knew what she was doing,The stuff smelled awful every time I got him back but it didn't seem to bother him.Every week he looked better and better until at around 2 months he had a brand new shiny blond coat.Thinking about the last eight years and how easily it could have never happened because of a fit full of poison and a hand attached to a heartless body makes me crazy.I understand some animals need to be put down but "euthanasia" signifies mercy,it doesnt signify laziness lack of funds or just plain lack of compassion.What they were about to do with Jerry was murder him for covenience sake only,"euthanasia " should never have been a consideration..