So I’m in coco, dtw. Was using 6/9 flora micro and bloom + 3ml cal mag and everything was going great. Decided to switch to PBP Bloom for soil at a rate of 11ml per gallon plus 3ml cal mag. Saw that some plants weren’t happy so I’ve been now switching daily between - 11ml pbp + 3ml cm. And 9ml + 1.5ml cal mag. I’m phing at 5.9-6.0. I’m all over the place. I was hoping to bring in some organic love with the pbp but honestly I’m a bit lost. I am going to flush tomorrow but I need some help with forming a course of action. Really need to make it to day 70 :/
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Week 5. Really need some help
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Flush hard with whatever solution was working well, at the same concentration that was working well. Until you're sure whatever was in the pot has been replaced with fresh solution. That's what I would do. Some numbers would be helpful, ec in and ec out specifically. Leave the organic love for soil, for coco keep it simple, no need for anything fancy.
Yup I’m with ya that’s the plan. Ec going in was either 1.6 or 1.7 with starting water at .4 that’s been run through a small boy. I do need to check run off ec
You should flush long and slow and then get back to using coco specific nutes. Canna, Plagron.
Also you should always use a PPM/EC meter when using liquid nutrients, just so you know what's going on. 3ml here and 11ml there isn't much of a guide. Different nutrients have different concentrations, and measuring the EC is the only way to know how much you're using every time.
mr j or mr d sound like nutrient salespeople because they always post in the political section, may have mixed them up not sure, for your information.
Your info given for your setup and question is scarce and your post history doesn't show a whole lot. No big deal I am not attacking you, only it is easy to almost overlook or skip or ignore, a post a thread when there isn't much to see or read.
ph meter and ppm/tds/ec meter are essentials. hose water or reverse osmosis water, schedules and specifics, really left to later down the road. soil, the best soil you can buy, is easy to grow nice healthy plants with water trouble free. coco is like the hardest thing to grow in, which is not a compliment it is saying it sucks basically. people probably use tons of nutrient bottles, which is why the pots are so small, literally juicing little pucks with chem salt fertilizers almost exactly like fiberglass rock wool. giving the roots more space in organic media real living soil will help the plants help themselves without your help without your intervention.
that said the two meters are essential along with cleaning supplies a broom vacuum panda film integrated pest management (for example I still have at least one moth or beetle chewing on plants in the laundry room) and testing your feed nutrient solution batches one at a time til you are able to establish some pattern or read the plants health. hydro salespeople will hang you to dry, both ignoring and lying to you at the same time, with a hand out for money. it is a combination of their lack of ability to grow cannabis on their own, working at a store instead, and ruining the whole thing by trying to throw you under the bus because they suck at growing weed or rather suck at life. dude don't think i'm being too serious or remotely referring to anything or anyone specifical. i'm mixing up a whole bunch of life lessons from different acquaintances and kind of synthesizing integrating changing the roles names and stuff.
we could be referring to a janitor or a car salesperson there are 'good' and 'less good' versions of each. they failed even at the simplest way to grow relatively speaking if you are in there asking to purchase supplies for growing your own, and they get a discount on the stuff, so what makes you think they won't lie to you and try to rob your house when you grow a crop? that is really how it is in life. with everyone not only hydro store people. actually everyone your friends list may change to nobody because they all want a piece of you, that is just how it is. i say this to say coco is the most difficult or absolute worse media i've ever seen and i do not grow anything at all in rock wool. sure it can work, you might have big plants finish flower with no bugs or mold. whether that is your skill to pull off such a difficult thing, because it is coco, or that is supposed to make for quality smoke, well it is up to you i guess. as a consumer i prefer soil and sunlight while i have yet to see the latest indoor offerings like leds and organic soil and stuff... i feel it may be like another domino in cannabis legalization, clearer transparency concerning markup or in other words taxing customers. if we make free online best least expensive organic standards, the lazy con artist, so to speak, is washed up. honest supply centers are more than willing to do business with like minded customers makes sense yes? like the last thing i want to do is spend time getting into an internet argument with someone over who may be a lazy con artist. instead i encourage you highly recommend seeking out some knowledge source in person if possible as in who has the fat trees the best smoke and how did you grow this i want to copy you. if they don't have pictures run. if their price is way higher than amazon run. they do not want to compete or compare with online shopping. if it makes you feel any better amazon is here (tech hub in california yea) and i'm pretty sure jeff bezos is not interested in buying the local hydro store. the other guy on the other hand i have to go with no comment
Your info given for your setup and question is scarce and your post history doesn't show a whole lot. No big deal I am not attacking you, only it is easy to almost overlook or skip or ignore, a post a thread when there isn't much to see or read.
ph meter and ppm/tds/ec meter are essentials. hose water or reverse osmosis water, schedules and specifics, really left to later down the road. soil, the best soil you can buy, is easy to grow nice healthy plants with water trouble free. coco is like the hardest thing to grow in, which is not a compliment it is saying it sucks basically. people probably use tons of nutrient bottles, which is why the pots are so small, literally juicing little pucks with chem salt fertilizers almost exactly like fiberglass rock wool. giving the roots more space in organic media real living soil will help the plants help themselves without your help without your intervention.
that said the two meters are essential along with cleaning supplies a broom vacuum panda film integrated pest management (for example I still have at least one moth or beetle chewing on plants in the laundry room) and testing your feed nutrient solution batches one at a time til you are able to establish some pattern or read the plants health. hydro salespeople will hang you to dry, both ignoring and lying to you at the same time, with a hand out for money. it is a combination of their lack of ability to grow cannabis on their own, working at a store instead, and ruining the whole thing by trying to throw you under the bus because they suck at growing weed or rather suck at life. dude don't think i'm being too serious or remotely referring to anything or anyone specifical. i'm mixing up a whole bunch of life lessons from different acquaintances and kind of synthesizing integrating changing the roles names and stuff.
we could be referring to a janitor or a car salesperson there are 'good' and 'less good' versions of each. they failed even at the simplest way to grow relatively speaking if you are in there asking to purchase supplies for growing your own, and they get a discount on the stuff, so what makes you think they won't lie to you and try to rob your house when you grow a crop? that is really how it is in life. with everyone not only hydro store people. actually everyone your friends list may change to nobody because they all want a piece of you, that is just how it is. i say this to say coco is the most difficult or absolute worse media i've ever seen and i do not grow anything at all in rock wool. sure it can work, you might have big plants finish flower with no bugs or mold. whether that is your skill to pull off such a difficult thing, because it is coco, or that is supposed to make for quality smoke, well it is up to you i guess. as a consumer i prefer soil and sunlight while i have yet to see the latest indoor offerings like leds and organic soil and stuff... i feel it may be like another domino in cannabis legalization, clearer transparency concerning markup or in other words taxing customers. if we make free online best least expensive organic standards, the lazy con artist, so to speak, is washed up. honest supply centers are more than willing to do business with like minded customers makes sense yes? like the last thing i want to do is spend time getting into an internet argument with someone over who may be a lazy con artist. instead i encourage you highly recommend seeking out some knowledge source in person if possible as in who has the fat trees the best smoke and how did you grow this i want to copy you. if they don't have pictures run. if their price is way higher than amazon run. they do not want to compete or compare with online shopping. if it makes you feel any better amazon is here (tech hub in california yea) and i'm pretty sure jeff bezos is not interested in buying the local hydro store. the other guy on the other hand i have to go with no comment
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I think your run-off will be toxic.
Coco is a very forgiving media. So you can easily go back to what worked before.
Then you should flush, and reduce the EC to no more than 0.4 tapwater plus 0.6 nutrients. 1.0 in nutrient EC would already be very high and
It isn't just how much nutrients the plants are given, it is about how much nutrients the roots of the plants can absorb.
If the nutrient concentration is too low, it is always easier to go from 0.6 EC to 0.8 EC, than it is to have to flush because too many nutrients are staying in the medium. It also avoids burning the plants' roots, which really sets back growth.
Also, I like to start young plants off with 0.4 EC of a high P/K flowering food and 0.1 EC of epsom salt (MgSO4 or MgSO3 in liquid form). This ensures healthy root growth (P), strong green-silvery stems (K) and bright green and functioning/phototropic leaves (Mg). High P/K nutrients like Canna P/K 13-14, Atami B'Cuzz 0-20-30, etc.
When the roots have grown strongly, you switch to the coco nutrients. When you have strong healthy root development like that, you can also automatically get away with lower nutrient concentrations for coco, because more nutrients will be absorbed than is normally the case.
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Sunshineinabag
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avoiding bottled nutes in the future and maybe taking anotbher approach to achieve your goals with less hassles.....
https://youtu.be/rU-76AnBEao
https://youtu.be/rU-76AnBEao
