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Washington: House Bill Aims To Tax Marijuana Brand Names

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Lammen Gorthaur
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And they will use the money they get to study the living preferences of flying beavers in Oregon.
 

Cannavore

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Brand names? Weed has fucking brands now? This type of business ethic bullshit will only contribute to destroy the cannabis plant.
 

Stoner4Life

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House Bill 1976, as heard by the House Finance Committee, would tax $3.60 per $1,000 of "assessed value" on "all trademarks, trade names, brand names, patents and copyrights related to marijuana," reports Rachel La Corte of The Associated Press.

The bill doesn't specify how those "values" would be determined, and instead says the Department of Revenue can "adopt rules" for determining those amounts. So it sounds suspiciously as if the department could tax almost any amount they wanted, depending on how highly they decide to arbitrarily value the brand names.



well we've all seen how they value weed when they wanna blow up the stats.
 

Midnite Toker

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I heard back in the 70's that names were already patented. "Columbian Golds" "Panama Reds" I remember (sorta) discussing it many times whilst dreaming about legalization. Stoner rumors at the time I guess.
 

AKDrifter

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Bring it, any acceptance of MJ by the govt. is a step in the right direction. Let them tax it and prove its a HUGE money maker. I think this will only help the idea legalization to gain momentum nation wide.

I see it as one step closer.
 

mrcreosote

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This is about State control and excessive revenue capture.
Notice that there is no provision for personal growers. All commercial.
Do you pay a tax of 25% per stage on your tomatoes or celery?
Tax on Sunkist?
States require you to be a business grower, so why not have the exact tax structure as every other commercial farmer in the State has to pay?

What makes cannabis different than any other consumable good?
They're not even bothering to wander down the road they took with tobacco by adding 'sin taxes' as punitive penalties. Just a bit at first, and then?
25% per stage is robbery and they know it.
Does the grower who knows a State Rep. get a license while the other unconnected grower get refused? Who makes that determination?

Without the ability to grow in your back yard like any gardener is plain nonsense.
It's not freedom. It's extortion in disguise.

Wake up Washington. Don't let the vultures spoil the victory.
 
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mugenbao

Patent <> Trademark

Patent <> Trademark

I heard back in the 70's that names were already patented. "Columbian Golds" "Panama Reds" I remember (sorta) discussing it many times whilst dreaming about legalization. Stoner rumors at the time I guess.
Pretty much stoner rumor, yeah. I see people repeat this quite often though, which is why it's such a persistent idea. Most often the claim is that the government "patented" the names as some sort of repressive tactic.

Names are not patentable.

It's a common misconception that names are patented. While handled by the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the actual process for registering names is called either a trademark or a service mark. Patents are for objects, ideas or processes.
A quick search of the Trademark database reveals that "Panama Red" has been trademarked. Some examples:

PANAMA RED
Goods and Services
IC 030. US 046. G & S: Coffee beans and prepared coffee from Panama. FIRST USE: 19990228. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990228
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number
78828914
Filing Date
March 3, 2006
Current Basis
1A
Original Filing Basis
1A
Published for Opposition
October 10, 2006
Registration Number
3203786
Registration Date January 30, 2007
Owner
(REGISTRANT) Panama Bay Coffee Co. CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 340 Montecillo Drive Walnut Creek CALIFORNIA 94595
Attorney of Record
J. Scott Gerien
Disclaimer
NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "PANAMA" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark
TRADEMARK
Register
PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator
LIVE

PANAMA RED
Goods and Services
IC 030. US 046. G & S: condiments, namely, pepper based sauce. FIRST USE: 20100310. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 201003
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 77961604
Filing Date March 17, 2010
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Date Amended to Current Register November 17, 2010
Registration Number
3909536
Registration Date
January 18, 2011
Owner
(REGISTRANT) Michael Bross INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1975 Fair Ridge Court Walnut Creek CALIFORNIA 94597
Attorney of Record
Stuart J. West
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "RED" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register
SUPPLEMENTAL
Live/Dead Indicator
LIVE

Word Mark PANAMA RED
Goods and Services IC 043. US 100 101. G & S: Cafe and coffee bar services featuring Panamanian coffee. FIRST USE: 20060920. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20060920
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number
78829136
Filing Date March 3, 2006
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition October 10, 2006
Registration Number
3295508
Registration Date September 18, 2007
Owner
(REGISTRANT) Panama Bay Coffee Co. CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 340 Montecillo Drive Walnut Creek CALIFORNIA 94595
Attorney of Record
J. Scott Gerien
Disclaimer
NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "PANAMA" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark
SERVICE MARK
Register
PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Word Mark PANAMA RED
Goods and Services IC 025. US 039. G & S: CLOTHING AND ACCESSORIES; NAMELY, SHIRTS, T-SHIRTS, HATS AND BELTS. FIRST USE: 19820000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19820000
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Serial Number
73804807
Filing Date June 5, 1989
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis
1A
Published for Opposition October 15, 1991
Registration Number 1671168
Registration Date
January 7, 1992
Owner
(REGISTRANT) WALKER, K. L. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 42 SPRING STREET NEWPORT RHODE ISLAND 02840(LAST LISTED OWNER) PANAMA RED CORPORATION BY CHANGE OF NAME UNITED STATES 6063 WOODLAKE ROAD JUPITER FLORIDA 33458
Assignment Recorded
ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record
DOUGLAS R BUSH
Prior Registrations 1300453
Type of Mark
TRADEMARK
Register
PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20020227.
Renewal
1ST RENEWAL 20020227
Live/Dead Indicator
LIVE





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