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Vietnam Black Fet / Billygoat / AKBeans OP

Stoneguru

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So far I have run Laos Luang Prabang, Muang Xia, Lieu Hahn, Deep River Haze, TLT North Vietnam, HOA Bac, Zang 164 and Dalat.

I love those bright SEA top notes and effect.

I just soaked 25 of AKbeans 2021 OP of Billygoats 2010 OP.

It sounds like there might have been an increase of Trichome from Billy's selection.

Then I just saw this post showing mutations which I also have in a lot of my haze work.
 
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Stoneguru

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Hi brother! Nice to see a new thread of you

It is pure Vietnamese Strain?
Hey Brother! Hope you have been well!

This may be my last SEA hunt for awhile if it goes well.

Here is the original 2010 thread from BillyGoat.

Thread 'Vietnam Black Grow'

Billygoat got it from Fet. I got these seed from the fello who gave the seed to AKbeans to do the 2021 op increase.

If I find the profiles I like I will recombine with the SEA and haze I have.





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elchischas

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Hey Brother! Hope you have been well!

This may be my last SEA hunt for awhile if it goes well.

Here is the original 2010 thread from BillyGoat.

Thread 'Vietnam Black Grow'

Billygoat got it from Fet. I got these seed from the fello who gave the seed to AKbeans to do the 2021 op increase.

If I find the profiles I like I will recombine with the SEA and haze I have.





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I'm good thanks GOD !

Sounds like a very interesting project to see

Do you planning increase pure Vietnamese seeds?
I ask you because since a long time i want to cross and create a super Vietnamese strain
Using all the genetics available online
 

Stoneguru

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I'm good thanks GOD !

Sounds like a very interesting project to see

Do you planning increase pure Vietnamese seeds?
I ask you because since a long time i want to cross and create a super Vietnamese strain
Using all the genetics available online
I'm in to help with that. I have a good Dalat and we'll see on this VB. I think AKBeans has some in early flower right now. Worth following along.
 

Travis Kelcee

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Hey Brother! Hope you have been well!

This may be my last SEA hunt for awhile if it goes well.

Here is the original 2010 thread from BillyGoat.

Thread 'Vietnam Black Grow'

Billygoat got it from Fet. I got these seed from the fello who gave the seed to AKbeans to do the 2021 op increase.

If I find the profiles I like I will recombine with the SEA and haze I have.





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I have Vietnamese Black F-2's and F-3's.

I had the original VB from the C-Bay auction at cannabisworld offered by anon. Far and away the best strain I ever grew.

FYI: The Vietnamese mom that Anon used had a nice mango smell with 16+ weeks flowering time.

There was some confusion by some growers who were telling folks that VB came from Dutch Flowers. It did not. I spent 2 years working with Anon trying to recreate his Vietnamese mother plant after she was lost in a fire.
 

Prs2xs

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I have Vietnamese Black F-2's and F-3's.

I had the original VB from the C-Bay auction at cannabisworld offered by anon. Far and away the best strain I ever grew.

FYI: The Vietnamese mom that Anon used had a nice mango smell with 16+ weeks flowering time.

There was some confusion by some growers who were telling folks that VB came from Dutch Flowers. It did not. I spent 2 years working with Anon trying to recreate his Vietnamese mother plant after she was lost in a fire.
I had some of those seeds from Anon, but they were called Buddha's citron. It was VB crossed with something I can't remember, but it was unique pot. Is yours the same, or is it pure VB??
 

Rgd

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i've sent my f1 billygoat to JJ, and he is offering them, so these are legit f2 of billyigoat for anyone lookin for those.
super potency,
but tolarence builds up way too fast, good breeding tool.
I am growing f2’s from anons VB f1’s I got on CW....over the years growing them I have found a couple I loved

.. getting one with enough resin /potency was not easy..but the style of high was definitely good for me

there are huge ones and skinny ones...
 
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Stoneguru

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: The Vietnamese mom that Anon used had a nice mango smell with 16+ weeks flowering time.

super potency, but tolarence builds up way too fast, good breeding tool.

getting one with enough resin /potency was not easy..but the style of high was definitely good for me
It would be great to have some insight on these. My main interest in them would be to find unique profiles for recommendations with my haze selections without loosing the effect and potency.

It sounds like VB won't hamper it.

Aside from mango What types of profiles did y'all find in them?
 

Travis Kelcee

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It would be great to have some insight on these. My main interest in them would be to find unique profiles for recommendations with my haze selections without loosing the effect and potency.

It sounds like VB won't hamper it.

Aside from mango What types of profiles did y'all find in them?
So many strains going at that time and so much time has passed I don't recall all the details.

The strain was a mixed bag from the start. There were more bad grow reports than good ones.


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Stoneguru

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Many thanks for answer me :bandit:

I'm trying to get any Vietnamese Strain available for a project, so is really important for me track the origin of each.
I will offer what I can find.

I am only looking for novel terpenes if they exist and Trichomes so I'll give them the landrace bucket treatment.

Start out in flower. Take cuts toward the end of stretch and keep them in the flower room and then all together back in the pot.

A couple joints from each should indicate if there is something there.

Solar Logos VB came from me.

Is what I have from BillyGoat an outcross rather than pure VB?
 

Travis Kelcee

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I will offer what I can find.

I am only looking for novel terpenes if they exist and Trichomes so I'll give them the landrace bucket treatment.

Start out in flower. Take cuts toward the end of stretch and keep them in the flower room and then all together back in the pot.

A couple joints from each should indicate if there is something there.



Is what I have from BillyGoat an outcross rather than pure VB?
I don't know who billygoat is?

Since the early 2000's I believe the only VB that's been available is F-2's.

Dubi was at CW when Anon auctioned off the original. I believe he had some and may be able to offer more insight on what others did with the line. I went off line in 2002 and didn't return until 2018.
 

Stoneguru

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I don't know who billygoat is?

Since the early 2000's I believe the only VB that's been available is F-2's.

Dubi was at CW when Anon auctioned off the original. I believe he had some and may be able to offer more insight on what others did with the line. I went off line in 2002 and didn't return until 2018.
@dubi on the VB?
 

Lolo94

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Hazevalleynursery in Santa Cruz area has a nice photo of a Billygoat VB on their instagram. Speaking of Billygoat, anyone have his Bangkok Betty strain? I tried getting some years ago when he was still selling packs in Norcal, but they were sold out. Ended buying the Oriental Blue(Blue Dream × Trainwreck x Thai). It was nice but got rid of it.
 

Rgd

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The strain was a mixed bag from the start. There were more bad grow reports than good ones.
f1’s were hermi prone..

but a zillion times more genetically stable than the f2’s
finding great potency in even the f1’s was a crapshoot...
f2’s made either huge puffy decent /ok. potency buds
and skinny viet looking plants that ranged from lousy to ones I wish I still had
one I kept and smoked only that for two years because of the high
unfortunately.[like my fave Cuban black haze s1]....it did not produce quite enough resin..
and liken the cuban black haze s1 cut
I got bored and turfed it..and wish I had it back
there was one skinny pheno I missed cloning and it may have gone the real distance
I am hoping I will find it this time..I will look for crazy glue sticky stem rub

groan if I had known Buddha's Citron was the real Vb I woulda got it..lol
 
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