Very high CBD strains, which ones?

[Madjag]

"Harvest in early morning..." hmmmmmmm.....

Info sources seem OK, though more verification might be advisable

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Nice article on terpenes by Josh Vogeler: http://terpenes.weebly.com/index.html

TERPENES/TERPENOIDS
(TUR-peen)

-diverse group of organic HydroCarbons (C5H8), produced by a wide variety of plants
-terpenoids are terpenes which have been chemically modified. They are important building blocks for certain odors, hormones, vitamins, pigments, steroids, resins, essential oils, and CANNABINOIDS!
-they are released from plants when temperatures are higher, helping to seed clouds which then cool the plants
-they interact with each other synergistically for a range of different smells/qualities/effects

Effects when ingested by an animal can be:
-anti-microbial, anti-carcinogen, anti-oxidant, analgesic (painkiller), anti-inflammatory, muscle relaxer, anti-depressant, psychoactive (active molecules in Wormwood/absinthe, Salvia, and Cannabis), anti-anxiety, sedative, vasoconstrictor, vasorelaxant, sensory elevator…
-some are poisonous to varying degrees and act as natural pesticides (poison hemlock)

In Cannabis:
-over 120 different terpenes can be manufactured by Cannabis, some only in trace amounts with others in double-digit percentage
-produced in the trichomes, the same glands where THC is produced, comprising between 10 and 20 percent of the total oils produced by the glands
-about 10-29 percent of marijuana smoke resin is composed of terpenes/terpenoids
-age, maturation and time of day can affect the amount and ratios of terpenes. They are constantly being produced but are vaporized by heat and light of the day… so harvest in early morning!
-climate and weather also affect terpene and flavonoid production. The same variety, even genotype, can produce a different terpene profile when grown in different soils or with different fertilizers.
-in addition to many circulatory and muscular effects, some terpenes interact with neurological receptors and modify their chemical output
-a few bind weakly to Cannabinoid receptors
-others seem to alter the permeability of cell membranes and allow in either more or less THC
-others affect serotonin and dopamine chemistry (neurotransmitters)

Examples of some common Terpenes found in Cannabis:

-Borneol- menthol, camphor, pine, woody. Can be easily converted into menthol. Found in Cinnamon and Wormwood. It is considered a "calming sedative" in Chinese medicine. It is directed for fatigue, recovery from illness and stress.
-Caryophyllene - spicy, sweet, woody, clove, camphor, peppery. Found in black pepper(15-25%), clove(10-20%) and cotton(15-25%). It binds weakly to CB2 receptor. As a topical it is one of the constituents of clove oil, an anti-inflammatory and analgesic treatment for toothache. In high amounts, it’s a calcium and potassium ion channel blocker. As a result, it impedes the pressure exerted by heart muscles. Since THC does not have a smell, drug dogs are trained to find one, very smelly molecule called Caryophyllene-epoxide!
-Cineole/Eucalyptol- spicy, camphor, refreshing, minty. Found in rosemary, eucalyptus. It is used to increase circulation, pain relief and easily crosses the blood-brain-barrier to trigger fast olfactory reaction. Eucalyptus oil is considered centering, balancing and stimulating. It is possibly the stimulating and thought provoking part of the cannabis smoke stream.
-Delta3Carene- sweet, pine, cedar, woodsy, pungent. A constituent of rosemary, pine and cedar resin. In aroma therapy, cypress oil, high in D-3-carene, is used to dry excess fluids, tears, running noses, excess menstrual flow and perspiration. It may contribute to the dry eye and mouth experienced by some marijuana users.
-Limonene- citrus (orange, tangerine, lemon, and grapefruit), rosemary, juniper, peppermint. Repulsive to predators. Found in the rinds of many fruits and flowers. With the presence of other certain terpenes, Limonene can be an anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-depressant and anti- carcinogen. It can synergistically promote the absorption of other terpenes by quickly penetrating cell membranes. The result can be increased systolic blood pressure. Since Limonene is such a potent anti-fungal and anti-cancer agent, it is thought to protect against aspergillus fungi and carcinogens found in cannabis smoke streams!
-Linolool- floral (spring flowers), lily, citrus and candied spice. Possesses anti-anxiety and sedative properties (also in lavender).
-Myrcene – clove like, earthy, green-vegetative, citrus, fruity with tropical mango and minty nuances. The most prevalent terpene found in most varieties of marijuana, it is also present in high amounts in Mangos, hops, lemon grass, East Indian bay tree, verbena and Mercia. Myrcene is one of the most important chemicals used in the perfumery industry. Because of its pleasant odor, it is occasionally used directly. It’s a building block for menthol, citronella, and geraniol. It possesses antimicrobial, antiseptic, analgesic, antioxidant, anti-carcinogen, anti depressant, anti-inflammatory, and muscle relaxing effects. Myrcene affects the permeability of the cell membranes, allowing more THC to reach brain cells.
-Pinene- Alpha: pine needles, rosemary Beta: dill, parsley, rosemary, basil, yarrow, rose, hops, the familiar odor associated with pine trees and their resins. It is the major component in turpentine and is found in many other plant essential oils including rosemary, sage, and eucalyptus. Pinene can increase mental focus and energy, as well as act as an expectorant,
bronchodilator (the smoke seems to expand in your lungs), and topical antiseptic. It easily crosses the blood-brain barrier where it inhibits activity of acetylcholinesterase, which destroys acetylcholine, an information transfer molecule, resulting in better memory. It may counteract THC's activity, which leads to low acetylcholine levels. Largely due to the presence of pinene, rosemary and sage are both considered "memory plants." Concoctions made from their leaves have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine to retain and restore memory.
-Pulegone- mint, camphor, rosemary, candy. It is implicated in liver damage in very high dosages. It is found in tiny quantities in marijuana. Pulegone is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. That is, it stops the action of the protein that destroys acetylcholine, which is used by the brain to store memories.
-Sabinene - Found in oak trees, tea tree oil, black pepper and is a major constituent of carrot seed oil.
-Terpineol- floral, lilac, citrus, apple/orange blossoms, lime. It is a minor constituent of many plant essential oils. It is used in perfumes and soaps for fragrance. It reduces physical motility 45% in lab rat tests… Couch-lock effect?

Synthetic Cannabis alternatives:

-Marinol, synthetic THC, contains no terpenes… hence little medical value
-Sativex maintains a strict ratio of THC and CBD but also maintains a strict ratio of certain terpenes, yet the company doesn’t mention what the actual concentrations of terpenoids might be. Probably still not the same profile nor medicinal benefits as the whole cannabis plant.

Try at home!

-Inhale the aromas prior to consumption. Break up the bud, releasing volatile terpenes and INHALE deeply through your nose. Wait 5 minutes and you will maximize the benefits from that bud.
-Eat a Mango 1 hour before consuming Cannabis. Mangos are high in Myrcene which increases the effects of THC. Especially if it’s a less potent strain, you should notice more of a “zing”…
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This article was compiled and written by Josh Vogeler for informational purposes only, using these sources:

Ed Rosenthal The Big Book of Buds Volume 3 pages 96-101
[url]http://greenhouseseeds.nl/shop/terpens-in-resin.html#11[/URL]

[url]http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31074[/URL]

[url]http://berkeleypatientscare.com/2010/10/08/terpenes-terpenoids-and-cannabis/[/URL]

[url]http://blog.stickypointmagazine.com/2008/11/03/the-medical-mark-the-magic-of-terpenes[/URL]

 

[Madjag]

My first test subject, a 70 year-old, fit, outdoor organic farmer with a recent shoulder socket implant (replacement) has been using the Dixie X Dew Drops CBD extract for intense inflammation in his shoulder/neck region.

He said that the dosage that worked for him was 1/2 of a dropper. It took away enough pain (though not all of his pain) to allow him to fall asleep without other medication. Daytime pain was reduced as well.

More info later....

 

[village green]

My first test subject, a 70 year-old, fit, outdoor organic farmer with a recent shoulder socket implant (replacement) has been using the Dixie X Dew Drops CBD extract for intense inflammation in his shoulder/neck region.

He said that the dosage that worked for him was 1/2 of a dropper. It took away enough pain (though not all of his pain) to allow him to fall asleep without other medication. Daytime pain was reduced as well.

More info later....

Finally.

 

[Black Elf]

Was the "highless" medical marijuana article here yet?

http://news.discovery.com/tech/medical-marijuana-thc-120706.html

Was too lazy to read all 46 pages..

It's Israeli strain called Avidekel, by http://www.tikun-olam.co.il/הזנים/שלנו.html with around 15% CBD and less than 1% tHC..


wicked gardens they have...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hgWL4MofPOI

Wouldn't mind an excursion trip...

 

[Black Elf]

Forgot to add this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KumZlFnGuQ4

 

[thats dope]

Hey Sam,

I am choosing between cannatonic with 20% cbd/.5 thc & another with 14% cbd/ 7% thc.

Have you written about cannabinoid ratios with resulting heath benefits , i.e. 50%/50% has better patient response than just high cbd strains. What's better: balance or concentration. I would like to read what you have written, where is the best source of your research on this area of medicine?

I am focused on the edible oil extracts and want to provide the most medicinal product.

-thatsdope

 

[CrazyKoala]

You have access to some good meds, just try them both. The 20% is good for mixing with other varietals. If you have a good THC varietal and a good pure CBD varietal, you can mix and match to your hearts content. The knowledge gained will surpass most anything a MMJ script-writing doctor can tell you.

But you're right in that mixed CBD/THC seems to work better for pain for a lot of patients. For other conditions, who knows.

 

[CrazyKoala]

Try them both assuming it is legal to do so.

 

[GET MO]

does anywhere in norcal consistently stock any of these high cbd strains in cut form? interested in makin some oil with the high cbd....

 

[Mirage]

does anywhere in norcal consistently stock any of these high cbd strains in cut form? interested in makin some oil with the high cbd....

Get Mo,

Try Elemental Wellness in SJ. They say they have Harlequin in stock

I don't know how consistently they stock it but their on-line menu says they have it.

BTW, if it is the real Harlequin, I'd be real interested in your results. Especially about the erl.

PM me with what you find.

I'd really appreciate that.

 

[Cannabist]

Jamaican Lion is the toke of the town. Winner High Times Medical Cannabis Cup - 2Nd Place Cbd Award! 8.49%cbd / 7.66%thc -- Elemental Wellness, Y U NO SELL SEEDS?

 

[headband 707]

Humm according to the clubs and their numbers this is just not true. I suppose they could be lying about the numbers but according to them they have certain strains that are high in cbd's .. They have a strain called "Haley's Comet "high in cbd's and I heard Charlett's webs was also high in cbd's. When I talked to the guy that does the numbers he said he gets high cbd's #'s once in awhile. stay frosty headband 707

Well, right now there's simply no strains available where cbd will make up more than 2% of the overall cannabinoids (.5% of the flower weight) and no way of cultivating a noticeably higher cbd content. For the most part conversion of cbg into cbd is controlled by a single gene (Bd) which is codominant with the gene that converts cbg into thc. For example a plant that inherits a Bd gene from one parent and a Bt gene from the other will have roughly equal content of Cbd and Thc. However, if the plant is homozygous for Bd it will have very little thc and if its homozygous for Bt it will have very little Cbd.

While it is true that afghani landraces can have a high cbd content. Since having a Bd gene will replace half of the thc content with cbd seed companies always remove the Bd allele from the gene pool in order to maximize thc potency and stay competitive. Right now Breeders choice is working on several indicas from afghanistan, pakistan, and north india as well as Sativas from Hokkaido and intending to produce versions both with the Bd gene for producing high cbd levels and without. All of the plants produce high cannabinoid levels. The six hokkaido strains we're working with are very hardy and fast flowering. They can be planted pretty much anywhere and left uncultivated/unfertilized and as long as they aren't eaten by wild animals harvested by mid august. They have a fairly low frequency of the Bd allele with most of the plants produce 5-10% thc but I believe the Bd allele does still occur in at least some of them. This makes a very good strain for medical users who require high cbd levels. Since depending on the plant high cbd strains don't produce as much of, if any high it is important for the plants to be effortlessly grown clandestinely and take very little effort and resource which can be taken away from primary thc producing plants. The Hokkaido strains which still possess the bd allele are perfect for this scenario. Since the nature of the genes which control cbd production only allow for plants to produce either veryl low levels cbd, rough 50/50 thc/cbd or very low levels of thc manufacture of hashish or honey oil allows for the med user to mix high cbd and high thc plants at a ratio which produces the desired medicinal effects.

 

[BOESELAGER]

Slickster, I believe you're mistaken about cbd being a degradation product of thc. Cbn is the primary degradation product of thc. At one point they thought that cbd may be the precurser to thc since this reaction is easily done in a laboratory. Cbd/Thc ratio is pretty much genetically predetermined.


Asa42 its difficult nowadays but if you can find a stand of feral hemp taking some pollen and placing it on your most potent female will result in a high cbd strain. One of the problems with breeding for cbd is that a 50/50 chemotype canot be tru breeding. The only way to produce a seed generation with a 50/50 chemotype is to cross a primary thc producer with a primary cbd producer. If you cross a 50/50 chemotype plant with another 50/50 chemotype plant only half of the resulting offspring will be 50/50 chemotype plants with another 25% being primary thc producers and the remaining 25% being primary cbd producers.

One thing we must bear in mind is that while this has great potential for medicinal users this isn't the route to go if you're trying to get high. Cbd has been shown to block the psychoactive effects of thc which is a good thing if you need to consume large amounts of both thc and cbd for medicinal purposes but isn't the route to go if you're trying to get high. CBD also possesses amazing medicinal qualities on its own. It has amazing abilities to protect the nervous system from toxic environments and dergenerative diseases such as parkinsons, ms etc. The us defense dept has even resorted to giving cbd pills to soldiers at high risk for nerve gas exposure. It also has been shown to possess amazing abilities to down regulate glucorticoid receptors replacing the antiinflamitory and post traumatic stress disorder modulating abilities of cortisone without the related negative health effects. It has also been proven to benefit immune system problems and has been shown to kill tumors and cancer cells. The human body even produces an increased concentration of cbd receptors around cancerous tumors. Cbd is also a proven anxiolytic, replacing the antianxiety effects of valium and xanax without the extreme addictive nature and sedating intoxicant qualities. Benzo drugs like valium and xanax produce some of the most extreme withdrawal symptoms of any substance. While outpatient detox is available to even thos who are addicted to crack or heroin, there's no such thing as outpatient detox for these drugs. The risk for seizure and death is so severe that the medical protocol for detox requires hospitalization. The ability to replace common anxiolytics with cbd poses serious great advance in the treatment of anxiety.

If you are in need of the medicinal Until breeders choice makes high cbd strains available I would seek out unbred hashish strains. I know mriko doesn't have anymore and wouldn't ask him but I've heard of his hunza landrace circulating around this site. This strain has a high resin content and I've heard reports of people not being able to get high off of certain plants, a sure sign it has the ability to produce high cbd levels. I've heard it even produces rks phenos. You can do a search for "hunza" and you will find a few threads.

Good stuff here! Has anyone produced a recent book with these basics that you just described in these paragraphs, or where kind I find the bases of what you are saying here in depth form?

 

[SCF]

Marijuana Miracle: 5 Exciting New Discoveries About Pot

The discovery of pot’s astonishing medical potential is the most compelling new reason for legalizing the plant.



November 6, 2013 |




For many years, the federal government has subsidized studies designed to prove the negative effects of marijuana, while blocking inquiry into its potential benefits. Ironically, the government’s steadfast search for harm has yielded remarkable scientific insights that explain why cannabis is such a versatile remedy and why it is the most sought-after illicit substance on the planet.
Cannabis and the unique chemical compounds produced by the plant, called cannabinoids, have been at the center of one of the most exciting—and underreported—developments in modern science. Research on marijuana’s effects led directly to the discovery of a molecular signaling system in the human brain and body, the endocannabinoid system, which plays a crucial role in regulating a broad range of physiological processes: hunger, sleep, inflammation, stress, blood pressure, body temperature, glucose metabolism, bone density, intestinal fortitude, reproductive fertility, circadian rhythms, mood and much more.
Within the scientific community, the discovery of the endocannabinoid system is increasingly recognized as a seminal advance in our understanding of human biology. The Rubicon was crossed in 1988, when a government-funded study at the St. Louis University School of Medicine determined that the mammalian brain has an abundance of receptor sites—specialized protein molecules embedded in cell membranes—that respond pharmacologically to compounds in cannabis.
More than 100 unique cannabinoids have been identified in cannabis; of these, the best known is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), marijuana’s principal psychoactive component. In addition to the phytocannabinoids produced only by the marijuana plant, there are endogenous cannabinoids that occur naturally in the human brain and body (our “inner cannabis,” so to speak), as well as potent synthetic cannabinoids created by pharmaceutical researchers.
In October 2003, the federal government awarded the Department of Health and Human Services a patent titled “Cannabinoids as Antioxidants and Neuroprotectants,” which states: “Cannabinoids…are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.”
Some highlights from the exploding field of cannabinoid science:
1. THC and other plant cannabinoids are not only effective for the management of cancer symptoms (pain, nausea, loss of appetite, fatigue, etc.); they also confer a direct anti-tumoral effect, according to peer-reviewed studies by scientists at the California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco and Complutense University in Madrid, Spain.
2. Investigators at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California, found that THC inhibits an enzyme involved in the accumulation of beta amyloid plaque that disrupts communication between brain cells, the hallmark of Alzheimer’s-related dementia.
3. According to researchers at Kings College in London, cannabinoid receptor signaling choreographs neurogenesis (the creation of new brain cells) in adult mammals and also regulates the migration and differentiation of stem cells.
4. Chinese scientists have shown that the painkilling effects of acupuncture are mediated by the same cannabinoid receptors that are activated by THC.
5. Pharmaceutical companies are exploring ways to induce therapeutic outcomes by manipulating levels of the body’s own cannabinoids. Animal studies indicate that it’s possible to attenuate a wide range of pathological conditions (including hypertension, colitis, neuropathic pain and opiate withdrawal) by preventing or delaying the enzymatic breakdown of endogenous cannabinoids.
Cannabidiol (CBD), a nonpsychoactive component of the cannabis plant, is generating quite a buzz among medical scientists and health professionals. Nothing else is able to help treatment-resistant epileptic children with Dravet syndrome and related disorders. On August 11, 2013, Dr. Sanjay Gupta’s nationally televised report on CNN discussed the astonishing transformation of Charlotte Figi, a 7-year-old epileptic who had 300 “tonic-clonic” seizures a week until she ingested a CBD-infused tincture. She has been nearly seizure-free since her parents began giving her a daily dose of CBD. Nor is Charlotte an isolated case: dozens of families with children suffering from intractable epilepsy are reporting dramatic results with cannabidiol.

A gifted compound with a wide spectrum of action, CBD shows promise as a treatment for many pathological conditions, including cardiovascular disease, diabetes, depression and psychosis. Preclinical studies indicate that CBD can shrink malignant tumors, alter gene expression, improve insulin sensitivity, normalize irregular heartbeat and protect the brain against alcohol poisoning.
CBD can also counter the psychoactive effects of THC, which makes some people anxious and dysphoric rather than mellow and euphoric. The reduced psychoactivity of CBD-rich cannabis may make it an appealing option for ailing individuals who otherwise would never consider patronizing a medical marijuana dispensary.

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[CrazyKoala]

Jamaican Lion is the toke of the town. Winner High Times Medical Cannabis Cup - 2Nd Place Cbd Award! 8.49%cbd / 7.66%thc -- Elemental Wellness, Y U NO SELL SEEDS?

That cali company not worth mentioning bought the rights I think. Had testers on the tude.

Jam Lions CBD comes from a cross of a select pheno from Almighty Seeds I believe, but don't quote me on it. Not sure it's supposed to be out there.

If you like seeds, maybe Resin seeds? Or Juanita Lagrimosa. Heard Otto#2 from Centennial was on the way if you're in CO.

I wouldn't chance it with (mixed CBD-THC) x (random THC) strain because you're going to have mediocre odds at CBD-THC pheno and perhaps no chance at pure CBD.

Also SOHUM.

Assuming you're all legal. Stay safe!

 

[Cannabist]

Right. They say Industrial Hemp is full of CBD. But outdoor cannabis isn't really kind medicine. Eating or smoking mycotoxins and anti nutrients doesn't feel right. Thank g.o.d. aeroponics is mainstream!

 

[groog]

strains with high CBD content tend to possess great medicinal effects. among the weed strains found with high % of CBD are:
- jack herer
- green queen
- LSD
- jack frost
blueberry kush

 

[groog]

Jamaican Lion is the toke of the town. Winner High Times Medical Cannabis Cup - 2Nd Place Cbd Award! 8.49%cbd / 7.66%thc -- Elemental Wellness, Y U NO SELL SEEDS?

8.49% CBD? are there other marijuana strains with much higher CDB than this? i know some strains with high CBD but only up to 3%. this must be a really really good medical strain

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

8.49% CBD? are there other marijuana strains with much higher CDB than this? i know some strains with high CBD but only up to 3%. this must be a really really good medical strain

Resin's Cannatonic tested (Harbourside, results here on IC in another thread) at between 3% and 12 or 15% CBD IIRC, 2:1 and 1:2 ratios common, 1:1 seemed like it was rarer, just looking at 15 or 20 odd sample plants, not a scientific answer, but may be of help...

strains with high CBD content tend to possess great medicinal effects. among the weed strains found with high % of CBD are:
- jack herer
- green queen
- LSD
- jack frost
blueberry kush

With all due respect, Jack Herer is certainly NOT high in CBD, it is very low, like almost all recreational Marijuana strains, I canot speak about green queen, LSD, jack frost, blueberry kush as I do not really know them, but I would bet hard cash none of those have any notable CBD, likewise the Juanita Lagrimosa that I have grown, maybe she is Cannatonic's mother, maybe not, but it did not seem to have any palpable CBD content like Resin's Cannatonic or Dieseltonic. I have smoked both, direct from Resin, so do know what a 6:6 and 7:7 plant's effects are.

 

[Avinash.miles]

I heard of a "tora-bora" strain being very high cbd... anyone got any info/experience on this?