Very high CBD strains, which ones?

[BuzzyKerbox]

I just invested quite a bit into high cbd strains.

Got:

Night Queen - Mostly Indica
CBD Skunk Haze - Mostly Sativa
CBD Shark - Mostly Indica
CBD Nordle - Mostly Indica
Otto #1 ( little to no THC ) - Mostly Sativa
Blue Mystic - Mostly Indica


All of them claim to have medium to high CBD. Will be posting smoke reports in like 4 months. Not very helpful right now I know. I'm hoping it can help keep me stable, been going crazy lately.

I got to say I have been trying to do some research on CBD strains and finding good info on this seems much harder than it should be, then coming across the CBD crews stuff it seemed to leave a lot to be desired.

Can they guarantee consistent levels from plant to plant? My understanding is this can vary quite a lot, how stable are their strains? How can I trust a pretty picture on their website showing some snap shot of a single analysis?

At least they seem to have made some serious attempt to do analysis reports, that is much more than others trying to sell CBD strains can provide from what I have seen.

What worries me is while seed breeders have their finger stuck up their ass, pumping out the old recreational varieties while also pretending they give a shit about medical MJ, some guys in a lab somewhere are isolating contents from different plants and working on putting out specific medications for some pharma company.

I am not trying to bash the industry but there really seems to be a lack of seriousness about the science, understanding the chemical compositions much better and the varying medical forms and their applications.

Sadly at the end of the day it appears that it is left to some Universities and companies to really pull the jigsaw puzzle apart. If the seed industry was smart they should have pulled some resources together a long time ago, got their own labs, funded studies; just appears they will be left behind in the long run where real scientific data is involved. All they appear to be now is commercial outlets for seeds with gimmicky names, how do I know the CBD crew is not trying to make money in certainly peoples new interest in CBD strains?

http://cbdcrew.org/varieties/cbd-outdoor-mix/

They even have an analysis report for what is suppose to be an outdoor mix? How do you have a report for a mix of genetics?

 

[OrgaNic GrindeR]

from the cbdcrew site-
"we noticed that the average results tend to show a 1:1 ratio, ranging from 1:0.5 to 1:2"

 

[Bobo Bolinsky]

I was gifted the best tested of a pack of SOHUM Harley (Harlequin) TSU (Sour Tsunami) highly touted CBD seeds. Best out of that was 4% THC 7%CBD. Not at all earth shattering actually. I have my own testing consistently way better, so buyer beware as always, especially with bank stuff.

 

[Nirvana_Papaya]

I've been looking for grow and smoke reports on CBD crew seeds for a while now. Not many to be found. Some reviews made it sound amazing, others disappointed in the effect CBD had on them. Seems like just about everyone has had what they believe to be a high CBD pheno in the bunch they grew tho, which gives me hope.

 

[HemperFi]

I was gifted the best tested of a pack of SOHUM Harley (Harlequin) TSU (Sour Tsunami) highly touted CBD seeds. Best out of that was 4% THC 7%CBD. Not at all earth shattering actually. I have my own testing consistently way better, so buyer beware as always, especially with bank stuff.

Doesn't his website report 10-11% cbd with a 75% chance of getting a pheno in a pack of seed? I'm disappointed. Keep trying, or get a cut of his 11% queen. 7% not too bad considering most strains are less than 1% cbd.

 

[HemperFi]

I got to say I have been trying to do some research on CBD strains and finding good info on this seems much harder than it should be, then coming across the CBD crews stuff it seemed to leave a lot to be desired.

Can they guarantee consistent levels from plant to plant? My understanding is this can vary quite a lot, how stable are their strains? How can I trust a pretty picture on their website showing some snap shot of a single analysis?

At least they seem to have made some serious attempt to do analysis reports, that is much more than others trying to sell CBD strains can provide from what I have seen.

What worries me is while seed breeders have their finger stuck up their ass, pumping out the old recreational varieties while also pretending they give a shit about medical MJ, some guys in a lab somewhere are isolating contents from different plants and working on putting out specific medications for some pharma company.

I am not trying to bash the industry but there really seems to be a lack of seriousness about the science, understanding the chemical compositions much better and the varying medical forms and their applications.

Sadly at the end of the day it appears that it is left to some Universities and companies to really pull the jigsaw puzzle apart. If the seed industry was smart they should have pulled some resources together a long time ago, got their own labs, funded studies; just appears they will be left behind in the long run where real scientific data is involved. All they appear to be now is commercial outlets for seeds with gimmicky names, how do I know the CBD crew is not trying to make money in certainly peoples new interest in CBD strains?

http://cbdcrew.org/varieties/cbd-outdoor-mix/

They even have an analysis report for what is suppose to be an outdoor mix? How do you have a report for a mix of genetics?

I feel the same way about the gimmicky names and the total lack of seriousness. This totally proves that money, not medicine is their #1 priority. What hell's up with using the word devil? F the devil, his name has no place here. If I lived in Cali or had a friend there, I would go with SOHUM's cbd strains and continue breeding until I had a 10-11% medical strain. There's plenty of high thc shit to mix but never enough high cbd quality.

Men interested in bringing integrity and seriousness to medical cannabis should begin by ditching the f'd up recreational bullshit names. Why would, or how can a non-user take this shit serious? Even so called med strains appear to be named by cheech and chong. A couple of Dutch guys made up the kush craze by using strain names that didn't even exist during the time period they suggested. They lied and made millions from the kush scam.

If you want to get a feel for what true medical integrity should be, go to a cancer clinic and help pass out coffee and snacks in the infusion suite for a day. No one there wants or trusts a medicine called devil. Greed, not love, is driving this industry, and it's a sad day for cancer patients and their loved ones. Everything makes a full circle, and it will come back around until the scales of justice are balanced.

 

[justpassnthru]

Anyone in Colorado know if the Phnom Pehn high CBD cutting is alive and around?

http://herbalsynergyllc.com/mmj-tested-products/sample-1085-phomn-penn

^ second highest CBD content bud tested from those guys and highest overall cannabinoid content for a CBD rich strain.

Its a Thai Haze x Cambodian.

I met a patient-grower, that just ordered it. I am hoping, it is a WINNER for pain. jpt

 

[SCF]

i wonder where in cali one might be able to test some strains, without breaking the bank.

 

[Bobo Bolinsky]

Doesn't his website report 10-11% cbd with a 75% chance of getting a pheno in a pack of seed? I'm disappointed. Keep trying, or get a cut of his 11% queen. 7% not too bad considering most strains are less than 1% cbd.

Suppose anything less that 100% gives anybody an out.
Caveat Emptor

 

[SCF]

dont get sucked into hype though. if you are looking for a Cancer killer or something from CBD, CBN, i recommend you do your research, because smoking does not give you enough cannabinoids to complete this, you need a much more consentraited version, rather Edibles, or Oil.

I hope to hear good results about all this.

 

[Madjag]

Z7 Smoke Report

Z7 Smoke Report

I've been reading smoke reports on Outdoor Mix and Z7. Some people felt it didn't help with pain and anxiety in the way they hoped it would. I think they were expecting something more sedating but instead got something that was more like an ADHD stimulant without feeling wired. I think CBD varieties will differ in the effect according to the indica/sativa percentages. I'll probably get CBD Critical Mass and CBD Yummy to allow more sedation and alertness, respectively. Any smoke reports?

This summer I grew four Z7s that I won at auction on the Mr. Nice website. I found three phenos I believe and will give you my thoughts concerning them.

Z7 followed Z6 and both of which utilized Resin Seeds Cannatonic in their genetics. The ideal Cannatonic ratio that some growers found in their crop was 1:1 THC to CBD with a level of roughly 6%THC to 6%CBD.

The Z7 had the highest reported CBD content of the three with some phenos yielding 10.2% THC to 15.5% CBD.

With respect to discovering the CBD pheno, my friend Sensimilla 13 on the MNS forum said, "Look for the one that doesn't get you high or seem to do anything". A clever way to start your search at least! Better yet would be to have a friend with chronic inflammation or neuropathic pain give them a few test smokes each.

Note: all of these were grown outdoors in a semi-enclosed greenhouse-patio setup. Their "fat" colas were not like those big thumpers pumping up under HPS or HID lamps indoors. They manicured and cured to Sativa-like size and consistency with airy buds and lots of resin. I also test with by joint as well as by stone pipe. No waterpipe or Vape in my initial test.

Pheno #1 was possibly the high THC and low CBD variety: it had fat colas, close internodes, medium bushiness, and a light smell of citrus. Like all of the Z7s the scent grew with days of flowering but not nearly as nice as it has after 4-6 weeks of glass bottle curing.

This girl kicks ass and has a nice Sativa, psychoactive high. Body stone was minimal.

Pheno #2 seemed it was the nearly equal mix of THC and CBD effects pheno. Remember that this is my subjective report and not a definitive lab report. This winter I hope to afford three real lab tests in order to quantify what's truly going on in the plants' chemistry.

This girl looked similar to Pheno #1, perhaps a little less leaf, and has had no big odor that prevailed until curing when it began producing definite scents of berry. Really strong, with a creeping high that also has noticeable body relaxing after 10-20 minutes.


Pheno #3 was the girl that was extremely bushy, larger leaves, and a tight shape leaning toward Indica. It has a powerful wildberry scent in the jar upon first opening. When smoked it gives a smooth, expanding toke and then you wait and wait but nothing seems to happen. Not like by ditch weed, which I've smoked in the 60's. Ditch weed and poor quality imports definitely do something....usually yielding a headache because of high CBN (degraded THC) from improper harvesting/curing or because it was more of a hemp plant, a non-THC strain, like the ditchweed growing in the Midwest along railroads, planted for WWII rope needs or for erosion control long ago.

I tried to convince myself that my lower back tightness had gone away, however it wasn't inflamed or giving me much pain for a decent anti-inflammatory/anagelsic test.

The news on medical sites indicates that the most effective strains have some THC in addition to high CBD. A strain that is all CBD will have its own special applications, but somehow THC is edging its way back into the picture for the greatest broad-spectrum applications concerning pain, inflammation, and MS.

Peace,
Madjag

 

[Bobo Bolinsky]

dont get sucked into hype though. if you are looking for a Cancer killer or something from CBD, CBN, i recommend you do your research, because smoking does not give you enough cannabinoids to complete this, you need a much more consentraited version, rather Edibles, or Oil.

I hope to hear good results about all this.

True that. And the only way to know for sure if you even have any CBD rich strain is have it tested. I have as pure extract done as possible and it can have truly amazing results on serious ailments. Intractable arthritic pain, advanced Chron's disease, allaying for a time brain tumor (Cashy Hyde) debilitating headaches from older crude cancer radiation/chemo therapies for example. Some lives have been turned around, truly Things at this level may only respond to concentrates.

 

[danut]

Hummm .. I haven looked at this thread lately. I guess that I've been spoiled by having tested high CBD strains available to me.

The first I ran into was Blue Cough. I got a call from a dispensary that they had a sample test out at 15% CBD. I bought all they had and converted it into RSO for my own bladder cancer.

It had been grown out by a newbe .. first grow. He lost the strain.
However .. three seeds fell out of the bud that I'd bought.

One sprouted. It seems that the daughter tests our like 8%THC+8%CBD. I made clones of it and gave away all the clones I could for free. With the stipulation that the person receiving the clone give it away for free to another grower.

A few other high CBD strains are floating around in Michigan. What we have to our advantage is the ability to take a sample in and have it tested.

The fact that a strain doesn't get you high is very thin evidence of CBD. It might just be junk.

 

[SCF]

Hummm .. I haven looked at this thread lately. I guess that I've been spoiled by having tested high CBD strains available to me.

The first I ran into was Blue Cough. I got a call from a dispensary that they had a sample test out at 15% CBD. I bought all they had and converted it into RSO for my own bladder cancer.

It had been grown out by a newbe .. first grow. He lost the strain.
However .. three seeds fell out of the bud that I'd bought.

One sprouted. It seems that the daughter tests our like 8%THC+8%CBD. I made clones of it and gave away all the clones I could for free. With the stipulation that the person receiving the clone give it away for free to another grower.

A few other high CBD strains are floating around in Michigan. What we have to our advantage is the ability to take a sample in and have it tested.

The fact that a strain doesn't get you high is very thin evidence of CBD. It might just be junk.

what if the resin is thick, and smells like a Kush, skunk something i would pay good money for. but its BUNK. im smoking it now... Just smoked 3 bloads. but its Sticky icky... more than some of my other plants. Royal Purple.

Looks like what i have googled. like purple haze. but still. i dont feel like im getting.. high. gives me the munchies. and a little head change. taste good.

 

[SCF]

True that. And the only way to know for sure if you even have any CBD rich strain is have it tested. I have as pure extract done as possible and it can have truly amazing results on serious ailments. Intractable arthritic pain, advanced Chron's disease, allaying for a time brain tumor (Cashy Hyde) debilitating headaches from older crude cancer radiation/chemo therapies for example. Some lives have been turned around, truly Things at this level may only respond to concentrates.

i have SEVERE Migraines. I will have a try at it when i got a headache. nothing has worked unless it KNOCKS ME out for some sleep.
so that sounds like a miracle.

 

[danut]

what if the resin is thick, and smells like a Kush, skunk something i would pay good money for. but its BUNK. im smoking it now... Just smoked 3 bloads. but its Sticky icky... more than some of my other plants. Royal Purple.

Looks like what i have googled. like purple haze. but still. i dont feel like im getting.. high. gives me the munchies. and a little head change. taste good.

MIGHT have a CBD content.

maybe.

 

[SCF]

MIGHT have a CBD content.

maybe.

Its as purple as your avatar, very very sticky. smelly as Hell, i got a LB of it or more. and save the genetics. I am calling her, " Purple Funk" for now. i got another Haze like strain that is similar minus the purple. But also have a high tolerance so i have some personal testing to do. After smoking Granddaddy Purple. My Tolerance got Messed up for almost all strains. for a couple of weeks now. Very Very potent in its cannabinoids. Especially the ones that make you hungry, sleepy, and Happy.

 

[danut]

Very Very potent in its cannabinoids. Especially the ones that make you hungry, sleepy, and Happy.

Humm .. CBD is nearly a stimulant.

Produces the "awake effect." Enhances memory. People lose weight.

I've tossed it at ADD kind of folks before and watched them snap to .. almost instantly.

Sooo .. probably not CBD.

Sounds like a good wallop of THC. Feathered by some nice quality turpenes. Maybe some delta 8 THC.

Another clue about CBD is onset/duration activities. CBD will delay the onset of THC and extend its duration.

But we're guessing.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

I tried to convince myself that my lower back tightness had gone away, however it wasn't inflamed or giving me much pain for a decent anti-inflammatory/anagelsic test.

The news on medical sites indicates that the most effective strains have some THC in addition to high CBD. A strain that is all CBD will have its own special applications, but somehow THC is edging its way back into the picture for the greatest broad-spectrum applications concerning pain, inflammation, and MS.

Peace,
Madjag

Have you tried mixing Pheno's 1 and 3 in varying ratios? I'm guessing you're going to find at least one ratio that seems to be better than the others.

Let us know, eh?

Stay Safe!

 

[danut]

Another possibility is the raw forms of THC and CBD.

In the raw form THCa and CBDa seem to have stronger inflammation fighting properties.

As in juicing.

Or just eating dry ice keef.