Very high CBD strains, which ones?

[Gert Lush]

So what is our best bet at the moment for getting high CBD strains?

More and more reports seem to indicate that ditchweed and hemp have greatly increased levels of CBD over THC. (Also, do remember that CBD is a THC antagonist)

So just get some hemp / ditchweed, should do you just fine...

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Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm really wondering just what's behind this recent CBD obsession / craze.
I make lots of crosses using land-race plants and some of them really feel very therapeutic. But I never wondered about their CBD content, I just go by the plant and its effect.

 

[onegreenday]

CBD is of interest for pain-killing without the high.
It's in veg leaves also.
It's Schedule 1 drug even though un-psychedelic; because it kills pain for free (if we can grow outside)

More and more reports seem to indicate that ditchweed and hemp have greatly increased levels of CBD over THC. (Also, do remember that CBD is a THC antagonist)

So just get some hemp / ditchweed, should do you just fine...

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Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm really wondering just what's behind this recent CBD obsession / craze.
I make lots of crosses using land-race plants and some of them really feel very therapeutic. But I never wondered about their CBD content, I just go by the plant and its effect.

 

[3rdEye]

Wonderful thread. I just finished all of it. To all the contributors on this thread a big thank you. From myself and all those in need of relief.

 

[allouez]

More and more reports seem to indicate that ditchweed and hemp have greatly increased levels of CBD over THC. (Also, do remember that CBD is a THC antagonist)

So just get some hemp / ditchweed, should do you just fine...

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Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm really wondering just what's behind this recent CBD obsession / craze.
I make lots of crosses using land-race plants and some of them really feel very therapeutic. But I never wondered about their CBD content, I just go by the plant and its effect.

Each plant can vary... it's nice to have a strain that you know will have that feel, rather than just a percentage of the harvest.
But even if the strain is stable in having that effect, the point is trying to find that strain! There is so little concrete information on what strains will create that therapeutic feel, and what their cannabinoid contents are.
Bud that one person might find therapeutic and relaxing, I might find it racy and anxiety provoking. Some of us want to know too what it is in a strain that helps us more or less.
And CBD isn't as simple as just a THC antagonist. Pure THC can cause psychological discomfort in some people, while CBD can counteract this. And low CBD weed is correlated with a higher degree of psychological problems in marijuana users. (the more CBD, the less likely the user has symptoms)
I'd be happy to smoke THC-free weed if the CBD helped me medically. (or vise versa)
But also, sometimes it would be nice to have the medicinal effect without being high... I understand that may be hard to fathom though

Perhaps I should look for news reports of ditchweed patches and go cruisin

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

The problem with ditchweed is that even if the CBD ratio to the THC level is what you want the total Cannabinoid levels are very low, 1-2%.
Same with industrial hemp, most is real low in Cannabinoids.

-SamS

 

[Zygomatic Major]

But also, sometimes it would be nice to have the medicinal effect without being high... I understand that may be hard to fathom though

A lot of people simply don't believe this sadly I can barely function socially when i'm high (from either indica or sativa but for different reasons). I'd like to be straight and not feel ill, pretty simple.

 

[eurasian_farmer]

i find when i smoke sats i get paranoid

when i smk indicas i chill.

hybrids cud be anywhere between or even variable.

luv my indicas!

ef

 

[SCF]

The problem with ditchweed is that even if the CBD ratio to the THC level is what you want the total Cannabinoid levels are very low, 1-2%.
Same with industrial hemp, most is real low in Cannabinoids.

-SamS

Spot on Skunk. Thats the key. Is ratio.


ditch weed has more cbd because it doesn't get harvested at the right time. There are different compounds on Marijuana that has medical effects other than THC, but THC is CBD just a broken down compound of it.

So therefore high content THC Marijuana such as lets say 22 percent. if you have a 33.33/33.33/33.33 % ratio of cbd, cbn, and thc, you will get the best in all worlds of the "known" Cannabinoids.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

i had quite a few GC tests done on strains i have , heres the highest CBD's ive got so far from what i have and there still way low

 

[Guest 26753]

I saw an article in Treating Yourself Mag regarding a strain called Cannatonic from Resin Seeds that has a CBD/THC ratio of 1:1. See this:

During the Spannabis fair in Barcelona 2009, at the stand of CANNA, 2 different sample of Cannatonic tested high on THC and CBD (see results 12 and 13 in the link here below) . An amazing result considering that expensive pharmaceutical products like Sativex have this 1:1 ratio between THC:CBD - a ratio very difficult to find in Cannabis where the biochemestry of the plant pushes to either have a THC or CBD domaniant variety.

 

[STRAINZ]

Spot on Skunk. Thats the key. Is ratio.


ditch weed has more cbd because it doesn't get harvested at the right time. There are different compounds on Marijuana that has medical effects other than THC, but THC is CBD just a broken down compound of it.

So therefore high content THC Marijuana such as lets say 22 percent. if you have a 33.33/33.33/33.33 % ratio of cbd, cbn, and thc, you will get the best in all worlds of the "known" Cannabinoids.

Are there any studies, or does anyone know, how much you can change the ratios of cbd, cbn, and thc by manipulating the harvest time?

 

[knna]

Very interesting info, Smoking Moose.

IMO, it proves that is something that can be achieved by pure breeding techniques. THC dominant strains is consecuence of breeders working on that direction for years, thats all.

I believe that actually ditchweed low cannabinoid content is consecuence of continous breeding in that direction. Other applications hemp may have higher levels to start working with for breed an strain able to produce an high overall level of cannabinoids but with CBD dominance so people can mix it at the desired percentage with THC dominant strains to get the desired effect.

Not only big corporations can do that, we can do it aswell. Both breed for high overall cannabinoids plants with balanced THC/CBD ratio and breed for high THC (done) and high CBD plants to yield separately but use mixed.

 

[mar_i_j_what]

I believe it you let them overmature with amber glands the thc goes down, cbd goes up, but i'm not sure. What I do know is that thc oxidises into cbd after environment factors like light, oxygen, and time. You can cure them in a sanitized jars, adjusting the moisture for a year or more, and they wold contain a much higher cbd.

 

[sac beh]

It is CBN, another primary cannabinoid in cannabis, that mostly results from THC oxidation. Exposure to light and air speeds this process of THC->CBN degradation. What CBN and CBD share in common is their affinity for the CB2 receptor, which is why their effects are related but not the same.

 

[Honkytonk]

I saw an article in Treating Yourself Mag regarding a strain called Cannatonic from Resin Seeds that has a CBD/THC ratio of 1:1.

The funny thing about that is that the seed makers Resin Seeds originally said in their Cannatonic strain description 20+% something THC, no mention of CBD.
Now they have changed it to 1:1 THC:CBD not disclosing the rather low potency of only ~6%. Just shows how reliable these claims are...
I think it's very questionable to make conclusions about the whole polyhybrid seedline from only 2 samples (probably harvested from clones of the same mother?).

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

The funny thing about that is that the seed makers Resin Seeds originally said in their Cannatonic strain description 20+% something THC, no mention of CBD.
Now they have changed it to 1:1 THC:CBD not disclosing the rather low potency of only ~6%. Just shows how reliable these claims are...
I think it's very questionable to make conclusions about the whole polyhybrid seedline from only 2 samples (probably harvested from clones of the same mother?).

Good Eye!!!

 

[SCF]

Are there any studies, or does anyone know, how much you can change the ratios of cbd, cbn, and thc by manipulating the harvest time?

Its really relative to the strain, the type of marijuana IE: Indica, Sativa, or Rid.


Only way to tell, and learn, is by getting a 40 to 60 x loop, one from Radio Shake rules. Has a light which is a must for this if you ask me.

Looking for the clear heads as THC, the "amber" and "Brown" heads are gonna be a mixture of CBD/CBN.

So the only way to really tell what benefits you the most. Is by harvesting at different stages. Like harvest a indica at 55 days when the heads are still all clear.

Then when about 30 percent of the heads turn color.

Then about 50 percent and so on. then u can get a good idea, and how long it took that strain to get to that point.

Considering your grow went just about flawless and you didn't run into many major issues in flowering.

I would wait till the heads turned about 30 percent for my strains. because after that, i would notice they turned really fast daily. and also, they turn when its being dryed and cured. as Air, Light, and Heat all play a role in breaking down THC.

 

[VenturaHwy]

I got a clone back in '84 that has mostly a body stone, since most of us don't test our weed I think it is probably high in CBD. So a body stone as opposed to a head high might be a more useful concept to most of us since it's the effect we are after anyway....

So assuming head high = thc, and body = CBD..... now most of us can comment on what we are looking for. I've heard Bubba Kush is mainly body stone but I haven't tried it yet so can't say for sure.

Now back to my '84 clone.... after backcrossing it 11 times I got a real stretch indica, rock hard buds that looked like OG kush (Rocky). The strange thing about it was it had zero head high, none at all. But it had a strong body stone, so I believe this is what some of you are looking for.... the benefits of the body stone without getting high. I was only able to get 5 seeds off of it even though I pollinated it like crazy.

Here is the '84 mother plant with the great high that I like so much - day 48

 

[danut]

Its really relative to the strain, the type of marijuana IE: Indica, Sativa, or Rid.


Only way to tell, and learn, is by getting a 40 to 60 x loop, one from Radio Shake rules. Has a light which is a must for this if you ask me.

Looking for the clear heads as THC, the "amber" and "Brown" heads are gonna be a mixture of CBD/CBN.

So the only way to really tell what benefits you the most. Is by harvesting at different stages. Like harvest a indica at 55 days when the heads are still all clear.

Then when about 30 percent of the heads turn color.

Then about 50 percent and so on. then u can get a good idea, and how long it took that strain to get to that point.

Considering your grow went just about flawless and you didn't run into many major issues in flowering.

I would wait till the heads turned about 30 percent for my strains. because after that, i would notice they turned really fast daily. and also, they turn when its being dryed and cured. as Air, Light, and Heat all play a role in breaking down THC.

CBD being a degradation produce of THC is old school info.

Used to be the accepted method that resulted in one or the other.

Current belief is that they both start from the same material.

I believe this is thought to be proven.

Both degrade into CBN

CBD is much more desirable than CBN.

 

[danut]

Many folks believe that CBD = couch lock.

That is not the primary indicator for CBD.

The primary indicator is the creeper effect. Part of the creeper effect is a long lasting high.