Very high CBD strains, which ones?

[Gert Lush]

If I find a high cbd plant, be it bt/bd or bd/bd, I will pollinate it with a known bd/bd line. I'd expect to find decent amount of high cbd plants in the f2s. All you need is one great clone to get a supply of cbd rich oil.

Hi there Thule,

How will you know if it's a high cbd plant? Surely you won't do a DNA scan looking for bd alleles, will you?

This is what's confusing me so far: Other than the statement that a plant rich in CBD "won't get you high", I have understood no other way of identifying such a plant in this thread.

Am I missing something here?

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And while we're on the subject, what is a "known bd/bd line". Surely if such a strain exists on the market, then more than half the problem is solved?

 

[elmanito]

@Gert Lush
Only TLC can solve the problem to examine the cannabinoid profile.

@Pops
I've got a link which might be interesting for you.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/indust/seasonal.html

Namaste

 

[guest]

For those trying to figure out this "CB1" and "CB2" stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIjOl6CvGVs

Great video on the topic.

Pops terps and flavs .. In the book of Exodus there is a formula for an oil that contains marijuana.

One element of the description involves the idea of "sweet."

Translators chose to translate "Kannah bosem" into sweet callimus instead of cannabis.

Oil of callimus is deadly and banned by the FDA. Since these folks would nearly swim in it, it is unlikely to have been callimus.

This formulation was given by God directly to Moses.

One interesting note is that the instruction included quality aspects. The oil was to be made with the best medical grade herb available. According to the best medical knowledge of the time.

 

[Pops]

Yes, PB. the oil was to be made by an "apothecary". Acorus Calamus is indeed toxic and carcinogenic. I believe also that the aromatic resins(which contain some of the ingredients for Ecstasy) are water soluble,not oil soluble., like cannabis. The recipe was Myrrh, cinnamon and Cassia(another cinnamon) along with pot and olive oil.

El Manito is right. The TLC is the only option we med breeders have, as we don't have access to the gc/ms and could not afford it if we did have. Hopefully, the guys at Cannalyzer.nl get their website changed so those of us in Canada and the States can order.

 

[Pops]

@Gert Lush
Only TLC can solve the problem to examine the cannabinoid profile.

@Pops
I've got a link which might be interesting for you.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/indust/seasonal.html

Namaste

The article was interesting in talking about the effects different elements have on roots or branching, but came to the wrong conclusion about cannabinoids. The article is 40 years old. They believed that there was a progression from CBD to THC to CBN. We now know that both CBD and THC come from CBG independantly, depending on the genetics of the plants. CBD can be artificially turned into THC, but does not do so in the plants.

 

[Gert Lush]

Only TLC can solve the problem to examine the cannabinoid profile.

Oh, OK. So there's no way of telling CBD, just from smoking / sampling the weeed, then?

 

[elmanito]

The article was interesting in talking about the effects different elements have on roots or branching, but came to the wrong conclusion about cannabinoids. The article is 40 years old. They believed that there was a progression from CBD to THC to CBN. We now know that both CBD and THC come from CBG independantly, depending on the genetics of the plants. CBD can be artificially turned into THC, but does not do so in the plants.

Its correct that the pathway of cannabinoids are different than what science thought, but i gave the wrong link.I found an article about Ditchweed in Kansas where they found a strain with 2.6% of CBD and appr. 0.3% of THC.
I have to look it up again.

Namaste

 

[Pops]

Problem is, PB, that the duration can be caused by THCV, not CBD, and a milder impact may just be due to "weak" pot. We basically need more clues to tell us ,by smoking, that we have CBD ,as well as THC.

 

[Gert Lush]

We basically need more clues to tell us ,by smoking, that we have CBD ,as well as THC.

Exactly!

'Cause the way it sounds now is a bit like the "emperor's new cannabinoid".
After all, if we have no way of telling whether it's there or not, on what basis do people make statements like "nothing on the market has CBD, it's all been bred out", etc - I mean, HTF would we know? (Sativex is supposed to have CBD and it's made from NL and WW strains IIRC from an interview with GW.)

How do we even know what the medical effects are, if no-one can single out a definite effect, and say - "This is it. It will make you feel like so and like so".
I have to admit I'm more confused than ever after reading this thread. Hate to say it, but it all sounds rather pie-in-the-skyish.

 

[Afghanicus]

Anyone tried sensi seeds ruderalis indica? is it worth a shot for something that would produce a reasonable amount of CBD? I need my CBD.

 

[guest]

Problem is, PB, that the duration can be caused by THCV, not CBD, and a milder impact may just be due to "weak" pot. We basically need more clues to tell us ,by smoking, that we have CBD ,as well as THC.

Thanks for mentioning appetite reduction with THCV.

White widow just got mentioned again .. interesting.

I just made an attempt to capture the smell part of two small samples of close trim.

one was blueberry and the other ww.

I simply soaked the samples in vegetable oil. Then pressed the oil out.

Much of the smell carried over to the oil.

Both strains were used by Simpson.

Used as a topical oil, this seems (to me) to reduce appatite.

I figure that if you can smell them, then they are easy to drive away by heat. Also that they probably degrade from combustion very quickly.

Net is that this part of the pot plant may not be consumed very often.

 

[elmanito]

Anyone tried sensi seeds ruderalis indica? is it worth a shot for something that would produce a reasonable amount of CBD? I need my CBD.

I tried this strain in the past.Very sensitive for molds during flowering, so if you live in area with a high humidity, don't do it.

Namaste

 

[Gert Lush]

I need my CBD.

Hi Afghanicus!
Perhaps you can shed some light on how to recognize CBD in a smoke?
How would you know if you are smoking a high-CBD strain?
Would you be prepared to smoke hemp if it was shown to be high in CBD content?


@peanutbutter:

I simply soaked the samples in vegetable oil. Then pressed the oil out.
Much of the smell carried over to the oil.

Don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that the aromatic terpenes are water-soluble rather than oil-soluble. If that's the case any smell transfer would be mainly due to physical pressure.

 

[Thule]

Hi there Thule,

How will you know if it's a high cbd plant? Surely you won't do a DNA scan looking for bd alleles, will you?

This is what's confusing me so far: Other than the statement that a plant rich in CBD "won't get you high", I have understood no other way of identifying such a plant in this thread.

Am I missing something here?

===

And while we're on the subject, what is a "known bd/bd line". Surely if such a strain exists on the market, then more than half the problem is solved?

High

Testing, testing, testing. That's the only way I'm going to find out. I will cross these plants with high thc, and moderate cbd strains and grow them out while keeping clones of the most promising plants. Only thing I'm worried about is the mazaris not cloning so well as pops said. Surely I won't know if a plant is bt/bd or bd/bd by just smoking it, but I am familiar with the cbd effect. I have an old hemp line, that has been grown ornamentally for some time. I find that this weed does have a buzz, but the strain, like all hemp strains is a bd/bd type plant and has very little thc. Combining it with a sleepy phenotype of the mazar should produce some good medicine.

 

[Afghanicus]

I tried this strain in the past.Very sensitive for molds during flowering, so if you live in area with a high humidity, don't do it.

what was the smoke on it like? did you get around to sampling the finished product?

 

[Guest]

thanks Hawksok, yes i've seen their site www.worldofseeds.eu they have some interesting strains that i would like to try oneday. I hope i can find a reliable place to buy their genetics. The pakistan valley is the one i'm most interested in getting.

peace

hi afghanicus, you really should try their aghan/ kush or their ketama strains they are cheap and more interesting in cbd/thc than sensi ruderalis indica i think...this is my opinion and i can be wrong....but if i have more space i would buy a dozen of afghan kush to try to bred a higher cbd strain than the common hybrid high on thc of the market....peace.....http://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?category=World+of+Seeds+Landrace

 

[elmanito]

The White Widow that Rick used has 1.1% CBD, according to Greenhouse Seeds. Their Hawaiian Snow has 1.4%. It is too bad that synthetic CBD is illegal. it would be very beneficial and it not only is non-psychoactive, but blocks the CB1 receptor so that THC cannot fill it. Sam the Skunkman said that if you took 100mg of CBD first, you could smoke a joint and not get high.

According to the latest results the strain WW contains 0.14% CBD and not 1.1% CBD.Neither the Hawaiin Snow contains CBD app.0.59%.
I found another strain from Poland Beniko with contains appr 2% CBD.This strain has a low level of THC, but this strain is usefull for breeding.Its an early strain and its used for fibre and technical oil.
I try to get Turkish hemp seeds, because several research what i have seen is that these strains contain a high level of CBD (3-4%).
Since years i smoked thai weed again and i must say i felt the CBN.It makes your legs heavy if they are made of lead.Perhaps for some people it could have some benefits.

Namaste

 

[Gert Lush]

Testing, testing, testing.
[...]
Surely I won't know if a plant is bt/bd or bd/bd by just smoking it, but I am familiar with the cbd effect.

Ah, excellent, someone with actual experience rather than just vague speculation. Can you briefly describe the effect for a "beginner" like me, Thule?

I have quite a few interesting and not to common genetics to test, and I'd like to know how to suspect the presence of CBD.

 

[Thule]

Ah, excellent, someone with actual experience rather than just vague speculation. Can you briefly describe the effect for a "beginner" like me, Thule?

I have quite a few interesting and not to common genetics to test, and I'd like to know how to suspect the presence of CBD.

Well, buzz is the word i would use. No uplifting effects, makes your thoughts run a bit different but doesn't impair normal thinking. No rush whatsoever just a calm sedated feeling. Helps me sleep and i imagine could be great for anxiety.

 

[guest]

Well, buzz is the word i would use. No uplifting effects, makes your thoughts run a bit different but doesn't impair normal thinking. No rush whatsoever just a calm sedated feeling. Helps me sleep and i imagine could be great for anxiety.

What about munchies? Was there any? tia.