verticle leaves?

[dash]

I just noticed my blueberry has some leaves grown verticly(sp?) I know she's just gotten over a major acidic problem, and it is possible that the soil ph has gotten too high, but not sure. Other than the verticle leaves she's doing soooo much better. by verticle I mean they are oriented at a 90 degree angle so the whole leaf points upward. it also sems to be the leafs closer to the top of the plant. I can post a couple pics in a few.

--Dash

 

[dash]

here are a couple pix of what I mean...

 

[sproutco]

Looks like your getting some slight yellowing between the veins on some of the leaves. Some of the tips of the leaves appear burned. How are the plants being grown? Soil? What all is in it? What is the ph? Good directions for testing are in my signature. Are you adjusting your fert water ph after mixing? What kind of fertilizer are you using? Be very specific about its ingredients. Add any other details you can think of about your growing conditions and what you have been doing to the plant. Sometimes with a slight deficiency, the leaves will act like the "vertical" ones on your plant. Looks like, if I am not mistaken, I can see female preflowers.

 

[dash]

This girl has had it rough, and is just now starting to get alot better. she's in plain soil, I have added dolomite lime to help correct the ph problem she's been fighting for quite a while. Her run off ph used to be extremely low, can't remember the number, but I remember it was red in color. The fert water I give her is at about 6.5ph, use miricle grow general, with super thrive and sm-90 mixed in, both are at 1/4 tsp I think. Her run off ph now is a little high, about 7.5 but she seems to like it alot better than having a low ph. Another thing I thought of that might be causing the virt leavesis that the grow cabinet is getting a little crowded, so maybe it's that?

 

[sproutco]

>What's plain soil? What does it contain?

>What is miracle grow general? 15-30-15? How much and how often?

>7.5 ph runoff You added too much lime. Was it dolomite?


I put an arrow pointing to an area on this leaf that looks like the space between the veins is turning white. Is this true? Click on it to enlarge.



I am pretty sure I know what is wrong.

 

[dre86]

I had that (leaves growing wrong direction) happen when I LST'ed a plant..did you LST her?

 

[oldnslow]

Often times when leaves stand right up straight and stretch for the light its because you have made an improvement in their envrionment and they are growing better and faster. I personally use vertically growing leaves as an indication that i've tweaked the envrionment in a positive way for them.

If you have changed something for them recently, it may have been just what they needed, and they are showing their improved health. Lots of folks use the leaves as health indicators, and its the upper leaves that always show improved health first with a rich green growth, stretching for light, and rapid growth. Hope thats the case here. Good luck

 

[dash]

sproutco- I think that white spot you pointed at is just a reflectio of light., the miricle grow is 24-8-16, and it's a half or a quarter tsp per gallon and that is the water they get whenever they get water. Yes, it was dolomite lime. And the soil is super brand soil if I remember right, got it at walmart, and she was potted in it before I started premixing in perilite, dolomite lime and granulated gypsum into the soil to pot with.

dre86- I haven't really lst'd her, I have topped her and pruned her

Oldnslow- Well that would definantly fit, she has been suffering due to ph lockouts and lost a ton of her leaves becuase of it and it got to the point that I really didn't think she'd make it. But now she just kinda xploded in growth, her stems are a ton stronger. And the majority of her big fan leaves are new in the last week or 2, as most of her old ones had died and fallen off. Wish I had a then picture to show the change.

 

[sproutco]

dolomite lime and granulated gypsum into the soil to pot with.

How much of each did you mix into the soil? Were they powdered or pellets?

 

[dash]

none with this girl, she was potted before I started adding things to my soils. I'm not sure how much total dolomite lime I've added to her pot, prolly 3-4 tsps total.

 

[sproutco]

Then you have no sulfur source for this particular plant? I don't think the source of potassium in miracle grow is potassium sulfate. Also, it contains no magnesium sulfate. Check label for any source of sulfur. This is important. See my signature for a little thread on why sulfur is so important. You should use powdered gypsum and powdered dol. lime rather than pellets. Top dressing a pot with lime is going to cause trouble. Lets focus on why the leaves are yellow between the veins. You cant tell in the picture where this is occurring on the plant. Check the plant like I suspected for bleached white areas between the veins on the leaf especially if the margins/edges seem wavy or twisted. More pictures maybe?

 

[dre86]

When I transplant, the next days the leaves always point upwards

 

[dash]

I use the agg grade crushed dolomite lime, but I have been using the granulated gypsum which are the size of those nerds candys. Is it really an important thing to use powdered gypsum over granulated? The reason I ask is that I already have the granulated. What do you suspect the problem is?

 

[sproutco]

With granules and not powdered, its hard to get the mix uniform. You end up with pockets of gypsum or lime. I suspect zinc deficiency but you need to check for those bleached areas and also show precisely where the yellowing between the veins is occurring on the plant. At the top?