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Vermont Senate Votes 16 to 13 to Legalize Marijuana

Genghis Kush

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The Vermont Senate voted 16-13 Wednesday for a bill that would legalize the sale and possession of marijuana in 2018.

“For me the question has always been, ‘Does the current system of prohibition work?’” Senate Judiciary Committee chair Dick Sears (D-Bennington) said on the Senate floor. “The answer is clear.”

Sears and other supporters argued that taxing and regulating marijuana would be preferable to the current reality, with an estimated 80,000 Vermonters buying, growing and using marijuana illegally.

Opponents argued that legalization sends the wrong message. “Why are we saying, ‘Let’s legalize another drug’ when we have people who are in the grips of addiction?” asked Senate President Pro Tempore John Campbell (D-Windsor).

Sen. Kevin Mullin (R-Rutland) sought to derail the bill by arguing that the Vermont Constitution requires all tax bills to originate in the House rather than the Senate. Lt. Gov. Phil Scott, though he opposes the marijuana bill, ruled against Mullin, saying the bill wasn’t, at its core, a tax bill.

Sears argued the bill carries an abundance of measures designed to avoid problems seen in other states that have legalized marijuana. No edible products or home growing would be allowed, for example, after other states reported difficulty regulating both.

Vermonters above age 21 would be able to buy up to half an ounce of marijuana and out-of-staters a quarter-ounce per transaction. Possession of up to an ounce would be legal for those over 21.

“It’s a cautious bill,” Gov. Peter Shumlin said, heralding the Senate vote moments after it was taken. Shumlin, who called for legalization in his State of the State address in January, expressed optimism that he can persuade the House the follow suit. “Logic will lead it to the governor’s desk,” he said.

That won’t be easy. House Speaker Shap Smith (D-Morristown) said this week of the bill, “I think it has some significant challenges.”

House Judiciary Committee chair Maxine Grad (D-Moretown), previously said she has concerns about both highway safety and its impact on youth.

Shumlin, who served in the Senate before becoming governor six years ago, doesn’t have close relationships with the House members he’ll need to persuade. But the governor, who is not seeking reelection, argued now is the time.

“Who knows what the next governor will do? We could be sitting here six to eight years from now having this debate,” he said. “There aren’t too many governors in American whoare taking the position I’m taking.”

Sears said when Shumlin asked him to consider marijuana legislation some nine months ago, he agreed, but was personally skeptical. “I told him I would not vote for the bill.”

After five public hearings around the state, Sears said he was persuaded that regulating marijuana as the state does alcohol would be better than having Vermonters buy it from drug dealers. “The biggest thing I heard was from the kids who were telling us how easy it is to get today,” he said.

A cadre of marijuana home-growers opposed the bill, arguing that it will put marijuana into the hands of a few well-funded businesses. Stuart Savel of Brattleboro, who said he is a registered medical marijuana user who grows his own, sat in on the Senate debate.

“Right now I’m opposed to the bill,” he said. “We can do better.”

Sen. Becca Balint (D-Windham) said she voted against the bill because it doesn’t allow home-growing.

Other agreed that’s a problem but supported the bill anyway. “I’m unhappy with the idea of commercializing marijuana,” said Sen. Richard McCormack (D-Windsor). “I will vote for the bill on the understanding that it is a step forward.”

In hopes of appeasing home-growers’ concerns, Sears agreed to move up the date, to October 2017, for a commission to make a recommendation on whether Vermont should allow home growing.

Supporters had feared they might eke out just a 15-14 vote, but the bill picked up support from Sen. Ann Cummings (D-Washington).

The bill faces another vote Thursday in the Senate, with possible amendments, then goes to the House. If it passes, Vermont would be the first state to legalize marijuana through legislation. Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Alaska have legalized it through public votes.

The bill calls for state permits that would allow up to 30 marijuana growing facilities and 30 stores to sell marijuana starting January 2, 2018. There would be a 25 percent sales tax, with revenues directed to drug treatment and prevention, law enforcement, and administration of the permitting system
 

Genghis Kush

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no home growing.


this really only legalizes 30 people to be government sanctioned dealers.

basically 30 tax collectors
 

igrowone

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yeah, this is a poisoned pill all right
i think it is progress, just not a final destination
 

Tonygreen

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that impact on youth arguement makes me sick.

Kids aint even into weed much these days, more into pills, special K, heroin and the like...
lol...

No homegrow should be a non starter everywhere...
 
I think its disgusting personally. Such a twisted form of decriminalization. I only hope they give some leniancy on growers who dont listen to their monopolized bullshit instead of witch hunting them even harder with the tax money collected by the big ops. Every single day I find myself more disillusioned with the way things are going.
 

dddaver

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2018? 30 growers?, 30 stores? No home grows? This doesn't even pass the basic smell test. This is also the very same reason that Ohio voted down their legalization bill by popular vote. Because it's not legalization. It's a few rich guys trying to corner a market. I think some Vermonters better call their reps tomorrow before they get railroaded.
 

Tonygreen

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Bet they got a good idea on who them 30 will be too...
My state is broke as fuck, only a matter of time,,,
Hopin and prayin it dont come down to some shit like this tho...
 

yesum

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Sanders home. If this is an indication of what Sanders will do, no thanks.
 

CosmicGiggle

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Does 'The Man' ever consider how much more he could rake in by legalizing/taxing home grows (theoretically;)) or making special permit$ available?

.... not that I like this idea but it is a compromise that would solve a lot of problems and save money on law enforcement.:tiphat:
 
2018? Are we going to drive our hover cars to the dispensaries like George Jetson?


This quote made above me is so freaking hilarious and sad. At this rate we will have Star Trek teleportation pods. Now you can just teleport the jar of buds from the dispensary to your place in a flash. Nice!

The sad part being it's 2016 and Cannabis is still not legal in all 50 states right to grow 1,000 plants on your lawns.

Madness I tell you.
 

stoned-trout

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Does 'The Man' ever consider how much more he could rake in by legalizing/taxing home grows (theoretically;)) or making special permit$ available?

.... not that I like this idea but it is a compromise that would solve a lot of problems and save money on law enforcement.:tiphat:
I will not pay taxes to grow my own weed, I also wont be buying tags or permits...free the weed...yeehaw
 

944s2

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that impact on youth arguement makes me sick.

Kids aint even into weed much these days, more into pills, special K, heroin and the like...
lol...

No homegrow should be a non starter everywhere...
the above,,,,
cannabis use gone down in the uk between 18-25 year olds,,
thats the excuse that was used for not discussing reforming any cannabis laws in the uk cos the "present system is working" when the recent home office poll hit near on qtr of a million votes!,,,s2
 

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