Veg Problems.

[lazboy]

SOIL:Yes
What STRAIN are you growing?nirvana bubblelicious
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)Clone
What is the age of your plants?25 daysHow Tall are the plants?About a A foot
& 1/2
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?VEG
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)?
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 1, 4GAL pots now
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)Fox farm ocean frost w/ 30% perlite
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*Nothing Yet
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?--
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?Haven't Checked
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?PH Pen
How often are you watering?When the pots feel lite
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?Yes
What size bulb are you using?6 40watt flo bulbs
What is the distance to the canopy?A few inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)40ish
What is the canopy temperature?76
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)67/76s
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)A few fans
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?On & Off
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?No
Is your water HARD or SOFT?HARD
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water?[ Distilled? Mineral Water?RO
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?Nope
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?--
Are plant's infected with pest's?Not that I can see


First I was using this light, But my temps where getting to hot(85ish)..


So, I moved I to these to help drop my temps about a week a go,




This is how the plates look before for I go to work(about 3hrs since the came on)











After I get home from work their still looking ok, But about 14/16hrs into the 18 they just seem to start looks like chit, Wilting...They seem to be growing slow and not filling out like they should be..

After they start looking bad..
Temps later same day,










Some of the Nutrient's I have,



Any in put would be appreciated!

 

[apples]

they just look a little droopy, did you water them previously? plants tend to droop a bit when they have a full belly of water.

only thing I can think of. temps look pretty good.

 

[mjcuresall]

lazboy, maybe it's me, but none of the plants in your pics look like they're wilting. I'd keep the plants away from any active air vents, though.

Temperature and humidity are within range, plants look healthy, what's the problem exactly?

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

they just look a little droopy, did you water them previously? plants tend to droop a bit when they have a full belly of water.

only thing I can think of. temps look pretty good.

i think its the angle... the tops pics look good

you should start flowering them now, there going to get big...
i dotn see any problems.
oh and switch back to the T5 thats an excelent light, 85 is perfect, especialy if you have a oscilating fan.. its probably tripple the light output/quality compared to thoes T12's.
leave the t12 for clones.

 

[MynameStitch]

Add some magnesium to the picture and your lower yellowing will be fine, the only reason why you have gotten away for so long using the nutrients is, because of your lighting output.

THe more light you have the more they eat.
Do not feed them yet until you increase your lighting output, which they will need more lighting for sure when they enter flowering.

You want a minimum of 45 watts a sq foot in flowering and 25 watts minimum in veg.
Your plants are lacking magnesium. So when you water add some epsom salts at 1 tsp per gallon.
You will need to use it every other watering as the soil by now is going to start to lack and cannabis loves magnesium.


If you have not used nutrients yet, like you said your pH should be fine, FF is pH balanced and pH should be fine.

Those lower lower leaves are used as storage anyways you want to make sure it's not happening on the upper part of the plant, cause if the lower leaves are gone and it happens to the top of the plant it's getting low on food and it's using it;s big fan leaves and that is NOT want you want.

 

[lazboy]

they just look a little droopy, did you water them previously? plants tend to droop a bit when they have a full belly of water.

only thing I can think of. temps look pretty good.

Dry or just watered, They just seem to start drooping the last 2/3hrs of the light..

lazboy, maybe it's me, but none of the plants in your pics look like they're wilting. I'd keep the plants away from any active air vents, though.

Temperature and humidity are within range, plants look healthy, what's the problem exactly?

I'm not using that vent no more..


The problem is, They start drooping/wilting the last 2/3hrs of the light..

i think its the angle... the tops pics look good

you should start flowering them now, there going to get big...
i dotn see any problems.
oh and switch back to the T5 thats an excelent light, 85 is perfect, especialy if you have a oscilating fan.. its probably tripple the light output/quality compared to thoes T12's.
leave the t12 for clones.

I wanted to see if the heat was causing the wilting, And after a week I can say it wasn't the heat..

Add some magnesium to the picture and your lower yellowing will be fine, the only reason why you have gotten away for so long using the nutrients is, because of your lighting output.

I know I need to add some magnesium, Because I'm using RO water..Used cal/mag & epsom before(not at the same time) And didn't really see and change in the drooping/wilting at all..

THe more light you have the more they eat.
Do not feed them yet until you increase your lighting output, which they will need more lighting for sure when they enter flowering.

My flower room has 2 600hps in a 4ft cooltube..(Lots of heat and problems in there) Look for another thread soon on that!

You want a minimum of 45 watts a sq foot in flowering and 25 watts minimum in veg.
Your plants are lacking magnesium. So when you water add some epsom salts at 1 tsp per gallon.
You will need to use it every other watering as the soil by now is going to start to lack and cannabis loves magnesium.

I know I need more light then them t-12's, But I do have the 6 t5's(posted above) That works fine for what I'm using it for..

If you have not used nutrients yet, like you said your pH should be fine, FF is pH balanced and pH should be fine.

Nope haven't used anything yet..(a little cal/mag only)

Those lower lower leaves are used as storage anyways you want to make sure it's not happening on the upper part of the plant, cause if the lower leaves are gone and it happens to the top of the plant it's getting low on food and it's using it;s big fan leaves and that is NOT want you want.

I really didn't think there was a problem on them lower leaves..I was more concerned with why they are wilting the last few hours of the light..

 

[MynameStitch]

Wilting the last few hours of light is completely normal dude, nothing wrong with it, happens to everyone or nearly everyone, they do this, because they are on a schedule and they get ready to shut there system down for resting. Think of it when at night you work at a store and you get ready to clean up cause you are closing so when you shut off all the lights no one is home and it's time to sleep.

Plants have downtime always, they do not produce photosynthesis all the time, during the last few hours of light they will work a little overtime to produce the amount they need for downtime and when lights come up they start all over again.

I know you have more light, I am referring to them being now in the conditions they are in.


So the droopiness is completely natural dude, no worries about it, problem solved.

If you don't believe me ask someone else ,or change there lighting cycle to something different and give them around 3 days, they will wilt to the time change after they get on a routine.

 

[lazboy]

Thanks, Stitch!




I feel better now!

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

Thanks, Stitch!




I feel better now!

yea shes good at doing that, most helpful chick ive seen!

 

[MynameStitch]

:blush:

Thanks digital for the kind words my friend