Veg+Bloom...anyone tried it?

[GrammaWhatt]

supposed to be a start to finish fertilizer from hydroponic-research.com. Curious about it.

 

[DJXX]

love it....just started it bout two weeks ago and a tremendous difference...was doing the kiss method...you will be pleased..buy it if you haven't...its the first nutes i have seen for well water...they have it for RO too...DJXX

 

[GrammaWhatt]

so...if one was using a soilless mix such as promix bx...the "dirty" would ne the ticket..correct?

 

[jayjayfrank]

shhhhh its a secret

 

[WeetisPotPie]

so...if one was using a soilless mix such as promix bx...the "dirty" would ne the ticket..correct?

Veg+Bloom is based on the water you are using. R/O water or straight water from the tap.

 

[Mikell]

Wild prices for dry mix...






Weedy, escaped, naturalized, or indigenous. That's exactly what I meant.

 

[WeetisPotPie]

I use three of their products. My per harvest cost for the nutes is $250.00. That is a very small percentage of my "donations" I will get for the final product.

 

[Mikell]

Price per pound of dry mix, not how that relates to the final product. You could make the same arguement for AN/Aptus, doesn't mean it makes sense to buy it. Compare to any other dry mix, the difference is hilarious. That was my point.

 

[WeetisPotPie]

So let me get this right.
Wild prices for dry mix...=Price per pound of dry mix, not how that relates to the final product. You could make the same arguement for AN/Aptus, doesn't mean it makes sense to buy it. Compare to any other dry mix, the difference is hilarious. That was my point.

Yeah I guess I'm not high enough to get that one.

 

[Mikell]

VEG+BLOOM 25LB TAP/HARD $420
VEG+BLOOM HD 25LB $530
+LIFE 1LB $80 (Bennies)
+SIZE 1LB $40 (PK Boost, other unnamed ingredients)


Jack’s Professional 5-12-26 25lb $50
Jack’s Professional 15-0-0 25lb $50
MaxiBloom 50lb $300
MonoPotassium Phosphate 50lb $100
Xtreme Gardening Mykos 2.2lb $25

See where this is going? One can only hope.


If you, say, had mentioned an increase in yield that compensated for this hilarious difference in price, that would have merit. Mentioning the price of nutrients compared to the sale profits without a comparison or point of reference is meaningless.

 

[WeetisPotPie]

Yeah I can, and it is pointless. But at least you added the discussion thanks.

 

[Mikell]

Perhaps DJXX or someone else who knows what they're doing can chime in and explain the rational. Even a mild increase in yield/quality would justify the price increase.

 

[xxPeacePipexx]

I remember this product and Spurr freaking over it claiming it was his mix lol

I used a buckets worth and found it to be nothing special and well overpriced for a dry powder. The hard water version sent to me wound up making a better snow globe mix then a feed from my experiences with it.

 

[jayjayfrank]

ya, compared to raw salts from yara, what do you know, nothing is cheaper.... who would have thought?

whats that? you dont have the time/space/tools needed to DIY hydro nutrients... if only somebody could offer that service for you, oh wait I know...

 

[WeetisPotPie]

No I don't I have a life. But I guess cause I don't mix my own nutes I can't be in the cool guy club. I used veg+bloom the r\o version once so far. From start to finish. I averaged a little over .9 grams per plant. Which I'm sure I can improve in the next few runs. My total nutrient cost for that grow..
Veg+bloom 5lb 100.00
Life 1/2lb 40.00
Size 1/2lb 20.00
160.00 total for not having to add a single thing, except to ph is more than acceptable to me. My time is worth more. So if you have the time to mix your own that's great I applaud you some of us don't. To each his own.

 

[Mikell]

Jesus, once more. Price per crop only relates as one factor in comparing different nutrients, in this case, not working to your advantage.

You're mixing from three bags anyway, what's the difference using three other bags? Price.

Cool guy club? Right on point. Cool guys can adequately explain the advantage of using one regime over another. If this mix yields more than other dry mixes and compensates for the increased cost, that is a strong arguement. But as of yet...?

I wasen't born silver spoon in mouth, nor do I overvalue my time, and will always choose to spend an extra couple of minutes per grow to save a few hundred dollars.

Time? Measure and mix is the least amount of work in any grow, and nonexistent in some. I spend more time firing one out in the morning.
Space? I don't believe anyone here is living in a Japanese micro-apartment, but I may be wrong.
Tools? Scale, measuring spoons? I can't imagine why one wouldn't have these already.

If I come off as a dick, it's because I are one, and just don't see the advantage here.

Anyone actually know what's in +Size beyond PK? 40/lb is mind boggling.

 

[jayjayfrank]

there comes a point where the only way to save more money is to buy the company you get your products from

harping on about "but its not the cheapest", ya, ok, big whoop...

a section of this forum is dedicated to micro grows, space is always factor, when is it not?

i suppose these raw salts will mix good with my tap water...

 

[Mikell]

You're right, I am harping on. I just don't really see the advantage, beyond minor factors of convenience, but at such a cost. It makes the little Jew inside me cringe. I do like arguing endlessly, but as Weetis said, to each their own.

Still interested to see any comparisons if someone has done it, and to know whatever the deuce they're adding to +Size to merit such a price.

 

[rives]

It's the most effective nutrient that I've ever found for use with my tap water, and I've used a number of them over the years. My only additions to the RO formula are Drip Clean (I run Blumats), and SM90. The reservoir stays clean, the nutrients stay in solution, I never dump the rez but simply add to it when it gets low. The pH is self-adjusting and stable.

I've got 5 or 10 lbs of Jack's sitting on the shelf, along with the other stuff to make it work. I bought it shortly before I found V+B and had intended to go that direction, but the V+B has worked so well for me that I haven't been tempted to even try the Jack's out. I might be tempted to use it if I was a large-scale grower, but for me the cost is incidental.

 

[WeetisPotPie]

You're not coming off as a dick. If you have the time great I don't I am a work from home dad raising a family of 5 ages 4-17 that is my number one priority. I love my garden to death. I wasn't born with any spoon in my mouth. I can't explain the advantage because I don't have the time or space to do test runs with every product on the market to figure out what is best. For me the fastest most efficient way is to use a premix. I have tried a few. Advanced, Super Natural etc...This one is working best with my R/O water then those. Are there cheaper and better products? I'm sure their are. But right now for me every second of my day is tied up with kids and family stuff. I check my garden a few times but I don't have time to work her. By the time the last person goes to bed it's 10pm. Then I can get down to work. Of course I have to be up at 5:30am to start the routine again. I've been interrupted 5 times while writing this. I'm really not arguing with you. If I had the time I would look more into mixing my own I don't.