Vapexhale machine

[HOVAH2.0]

I wus at the GreenDoor about 3 weeks ago and this guy had a vaporizer called the Vapexhale. Well, when I took a hit from this Vapexhale I didnt taste nor feel anything on the inhale. But, when i exhaled I tasted the most fruity vestiness Ive ever had from weed! That machine was able to reproduce the sensation of actually biting into a piece of fruit, its hands down the best shit Ive ever tried.
I went to the Web site @ Vapexhale.com and they start at 650 per unit but you can add various features ranging to 800.

Does anyone else have any comments about this Vapexhale or did anyone experience using this machine before I pony up 6 large on this thing? Thanks

 

[Don Dump]

my buddy has one. it is the best. I am just too cheap to buy one right now

check out fuckcombustion.com huge thread there on it

was this your first experience with any vaporizer? once you get a taste of that taste, its all over for you

 

[HOVAH2.0]

No, ive used vapes in the past but this machine blew everything else away. thanks for comment.

 

[Sideshow-Bob]

+1 on the advice to check out fuckcombustion for information about vapexhale (or any vape for that matter)

i haven't had the chance to try the cloud yet, as i'm located in europe and the international version has not been released yet, but i have a vriptech heat wand which is the device that kind of inspired stonemonkey in the creation of the cloud...

and let me tell you that discovering pure, thick vapor through an all-glass vapor-path + water filtered has been a revelation for me, it changed my life i'm now combusting like once a month and can't really stand it anymore when i do... tastes so foul compared to clean vapor...

my vape of choice as of today is the herborizer, it's very very close to the vhw in vapor-quality but is so much more comfortable in handling and if you like scientific glass it's the coolest looking vape by far (herborizer is imho better in handling than the cloud and more aesthetically pleasing, but the cloud seems to produce thicker vapor and has an all glass vapor path)

anyways, no matter what vape you choose to invest in (there are a few choices to consider: LSV, SSV, some type of log-vape, cloud, herborizer, vhw, etc) any high-end vape will deliver a very good vaping experience that for me and a lot of others is lightyears ahead of any form of combustion...

if you tried the volcano and thought vaping is not for you, you might want to check again... vaporizers have come a long way since the volcano!

happy vaping!

 

[Truthman]

+1 on the advice to check out fuckcombustion for information about vapexhale (or any vape for that matter)

i haven't had the chance to try the cloud yet, as i'm located in europe and the international version has not been released yet, but i have a vriptech heat wand which is the device that kind of inspired stonemonkey in the creation of the cloud...

and let me tell you that discovering pure, thick vapor through an all-glass vapor-path + water filtered has been a revelation for me, it changed my life i'm now combusting like once a month and can't really stand it anymore when i do... tastes so foul compared to clean vapor...

my vape of choice as of today is the herborizer, it's very very close to the vhw in vapor-quality but is so much more comfortable in handling and if you like scientific glass it's the coolest looking vape by far (herborizer is imho better in handling than the cloud and more aesthetically pleasing, but the cloud seems to produce thicker vapor and has an all glass vapor path)

anyways, no matter what vape you choose to invest in (there are a few choices to consider: LSV, SSV, some type of log-vape, cloud, herborizer, vhw, etc) any high-end vape will deliver a very good vaping experience that for me and a lot of others is lightyears ahead of any form of combustion...

if you tried the volcano and thought vaping is not for you, you might want to check again... vaporizers have come a long way since the volcano!

happy vaping!

I don't think vaporizer have came a long way from the volcano. In fact I think it is going backwards because a lot of companies aren't really making vaporizers that are ultra safe, meaning the electronics are very far away from the heat to prevent off gassing. Or they are not focusing on temperature accuracy which is what vaporizing is all about, temperature control. It's all about looks, and portability now.

The reason why the vapexahle is so loved is because of it's simplicity, and being able to draw thick clouds. The clouds come from the excess air being included with the vapor, and the bowls design allow for a quick extraction due to lowering the atmospheric pressure inside the bowl.

The volcano is really the same as the vapexhale, but YOU have to know what you're doing to achieve these results. For example, most people use too much bud in the volcano's chamber, and choose a low temperature so they need more bags to get the effect they want. What they should do is use around .05-.15 grams(at most), grind it up real good, and press down on the herb so that it is one even patch of herb on the screen. This will lower the atmospheric pressure in the bowl, allowing a quicker extraction, which will give the effects similar to the vapexhale, and you know the temperature you're working with if you use the volcano digital. Choosing between 385f-410f is the temperature you want. When people are able to choose the temperature they want, they tend to use a low temperature, and not get the effects they want. When you use the vapexhale, the temperature setting it recommends is 400f(putting the know in the middle). Even when you lower it, the temperature may be only a few degrees down even though the knob is set a few centimeters apart, and this is because the temperatures aren't accurate when you use different settings that are not the middle or the extreme left or right. It is an analogue vaporizer so this is a given. If it was digital it can be more accurate.

The vapexhale is excellent for those who are new to vaporizing, and want the experience they get with using bongs because they want to keep the same ritual they are used to, and don't feel like learning new ways of learning as they would with using a vaporizer. It is essentially plug, and play.

 

[Don Dump]

good points truthman. but unless your using for medical reasons who cares about exact temperature. its all about the taste for me, can adjust the dial to taste. taste from direct inhale is not comparable to balloon IMO

agree the cloud is excellent for converting people to vaporizing. there is a learning curve with most other vapes. the cloud you can hit it hard and fast and get thick tasty vapor

 

[brotherindica]

I wus at the GreenDoor about 3 weeks ago and this guy had a vaporizer called the Vapexhale. Well, when I took a hit from this Vapexhale I didnt taste nor feel anything on the inhale. But, when i exhaled I tasted the most fruity vestiness Ive ever had from weed! That machine was able to reproduce the sensation of actually biting into a piece of fruit, its hands down the best shit Ive ever tried.
I went to the Web site @ Vapexhale.com and they start at 650 per unit but you can add various features ranging to 800.

Does anyone else have any comments about this Vapexhale or did anyone experience using this machine before I pony up 6 large on this thing? Thanks

Hey Hovah,


I picked one up over a year ago, on the pre-sale.

I've used it nearly daily since, except for a week or so on a recent vacation. Which I was reminded how much I don't miss combustion.


I paid around $450-500, but would gladly purchase one again for $600. Actually plan to give one or two as gifts this year. Is it perfect? No, but NO vaporizer is perfect.


That said, this vape is by far my favorite. The all glass airway, fast & even extraction, and ability to water filter with nearly any 14/18mm glass are some of my favorite features.


I can vape at the same rate I used to smoke. I'm a heavy med user, 5g+ a day, and being able to intake a large amount in a quick fashion is huge for me. Vape what I need and then continue on with my day. This was always a concern.



Just my personal thoughts & experience on the matter.

Hope that helps

 

[Truthman]

good points truthman. but unless your using for medical reasons who cares about exact temperature. its all about the taste for me, can adjust the dial to taste. taste from direct inhale is not comparable to balloon IMO

agree the cloud is excellent for converting people to vaporizing. there is a learning curve with most other vapes. the cloud you can hit it hard and fast and get thick tasty vapor

Exact temperature is important if you want to extract as much thc or other cannabinoids in one dense hit. It doesn't even have to be cannabis, it can be an other herb that actives boil at different temperatures. Even with cannabis, if you want to taste just certain flavors, knowing what temperature you are at is very important because you don't want to degrade the oils, and keep them intact as much as possible. Then you can go higher if you want a dense hit of just cannabinoids. All of these hits can be done with very little air diluting it, because the temperature is exact or approximate, allowing a release very quickly. You may not see thick clouds on the exhale, by that is because it is more concentrated. Remember a cloud is just a mixture of condensed droplets, and a lot of air.

I forgot to mention on my last post that you can get great flavor from ANY good vaporizer just by inhaling the vapor into your mouth before inhaling it into the lungs. This allows the flavor substances to attach to the walls of the mouth, and tongue, to give a dense flavor. If you're using a volcano bag, all you have to do is inhale into your mouth until your cheeks are puffed out, hold it for1-3 seconds, then inhale the vapor in your mouth along with the rest in the bag, deep into your lungs. This allows for a deep flavor without needing to inhale a lot of air to get this effect on your exhale. You can do this with a whip or the mflb also. Drink some water before hand to prevent your mouth from drying out too much, which may inhibit a lot of flavor to be experienced.

To get the most out of any vaporizer, you should inhale fresh air for at least 20 seconds after you extracted the vapor. This allows for more absorption, and use of the vapor by the body, due to air thinning out the vapor to be absorbed by the alveoli, and oxygen getting the parasympathetic nervous system going. This part of our body deals with healing, relaxation and making use of what we ingest.


This video helps explain what a cloud is. Just substitute water with cannabis vapor. BTW, notice around 3:33 how he states having some particles for water droplets to form around gives a better cloud. In our case those particles are actives ,and essential oils from the vapor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=478fvAj49r8

 

[Don Dump]

when I say taste, I mean the taste/smell that sticks to the palette on exhale. that comes from big thick hits from tasty weed at lower end temps IME. for myself thick clouds are important psychologically and I need to feel that little tickle in the lungs also it is fun to blow vapor rings


on with the vapexhale cloud talk..

 

[Truthman]

when I say taste, I mean the taste/smell that sticks to the palette on exhale. that comes from big thick hits from tasty weed at lower end temps IME. for myself thick clouds are important psychologically and I need to feel that little tickle in the lungs also it is fun to blow vapor rings


on with the vapexhale cloud talk..

I understand, but you can get those without thick exhales. Do this experiment in front of a mirror. When you exhale a big cloud, notice how most of the cloud is rushing out of the middle of your mouth with only a little bit touching your tongue, the roof of your mouth, and your cheeks. The rest is being exhaled into the air to linger at give aromatherapy to the environment, not you.

This same effect can be done just by inhaling the vapor into the mouth until it is full, and letting it sit there for 1-3 seconds before you do a deep inhale into the lungs. Very little is wasted on the exhale if you do the fresh air technique I mentioned, which means a strong effect because more was absorbed into the body. You get the best of both worlds, potency, and strong taste.

As far as the tickling in the lungs or vapor rings, yeah you do need a cloud for that so I agree with you there.

 

[Don Dump]

do you grow? maybe if I had to pay for weed I would care about wasting some to aromatherapy. I know what I likes. big deep hits of tasty thick vapor. if Im not high enough pack another one

sorry for hijacking this thread hovah

 

[Truthman]

Don Dump, I'm not here to argue so please don't take it that way, I was just showing you a way to get more out of your herb, while still getting super high, and strong flavors.

Anyway, have fun vaping.

 

[Sideshow-Bob]

I don't think vaporizer have came a long way from the volcano. In fact I think it is going backwards because a lot of companies aren't really making vaporizers that are ultra safe, meaning the electronics are very far away from the heat to prevent off gassing. Or they are not focusing on temperature accuracy which is what vaporizing is all about, temperature control. It's all about looks, and portability now.

The reason why the vapexahle is so loved is because of it's simplicity, and being able to draw thick clouds. The clouds come from the excess air being included with the vapor, and the bowls design allow for a quick extraction due to lowering the atmospheric pressure inside the bowl.

The volcano is really the same as the vapexhale, but YOU have to know what you're doing to achieve these results. For example, most people use too much bud in the volcano's chamber, and choose a low temperature so they need more bags to get the effect they want. What they should do is use around .05-.15 grams(at most), grind it up real good, and press down on the herb so that it is one even patch of herb on the screen. This will lower the atmospheric pressure in the bowl, allowing a quicker extraction, which will give the effects similar to the vapexhale, and you know the temperature you're working with if you use the volcano digital. Choosing between 385f-410f is the temperature you want. When people are able to choose the temperature they want, they tend to use a low temperature, and not get the effects they want. When you use the vapexhale, the temperature setting it recommends is 400f(putting the know in the middle). Even when you lower it, the temperature may be only a few degrees down even though the knob is set a few centimeters apart, and this is because the temperatures aren't accurate when you use different settings that are not the middle or the extreme left or right. It is an analogue vaporizer so this is a given. If it was digital it can be more accurate.

The vapexhale is excellent for those who are new to vaporizing, and want the experience they get with using bongs because they want to keep the same ritual they are used to, and don't feel like learning new ways of learning as they would with using a vaporizer. It is essentially plug, and play.

the volcano is not the same as the cloud. the volcano has an aluminium heating core whereas the cloud is all glas, it gets no cleaner than the cloud - and that is the general direction the highend vapeworld is heading for sure (f.e. take a look at the ascent from daVinci - it is produced by a highly commercial company, obviously they think clean vapor path sells)

the cloud does not produce its clouds because of the excess air - that's ridiculous! it's the other way round, lots of excess air with the volcano - i can't get that thick throat tickling vapor with the cano because the vapor/air ratio is pretty low in the volcano...

and my dislike of the volcano has nothing to do with not having the right temperature settings more because its so overpriced, overhyped and outdated - but a solid quality build at least...

now i'm gonna go right back to hitting my herborizer! hmmm clean, water filtered nyc diesel vapor

 

[Truthman]

the volcano is not the same as the cloud. the volcano has an aluminium heating core whereas the cloud is all glas, it gets no cleaner than the cloud - and that is the general direction the highend vapeworld is heading for sure (f.e. take a look at the ascent from daVinci - it is produced by a highly commercial company, obviously they think clean vapor path sells)

the cloud does not produce its clouds because of the excess air - that's ridiculous! it's the other way round, lots of excess air with the volcano - i can't get that thick throat tickling vapor with the cano because the vapor/air ratio is pretty low in the volcano...

and my dislike of the volcano has nothing to do with not having the right temperature settings more because its so overpriced, overhyped and outdated - but a solid quality build at least...

now i'm gonna go right back to hitting my herborizer! hmmm clean, water filtered nyc diesel vapor

The aluminum in the volcano doesn't heat up enough to cause problems, so it is the same as the cloud as far as being clean. In fact the volcano, has proven itself clean due to passing STRICT test in Germany. Germany doesn't play when it comes to these things.

The davinci vaporizer is exactly one of the companies I was referring to when I spoke of not being safe. There is a thread on fuckcombustion that showed how it's electronics were dangerously close to the heating path, and the problems associated with it, in the long run with consistent use.

You get thick vapors based on how you load the bowl, the herb you use, and how much air mixes with the vapor. This is science, not something I made up, which is why I linked the video to help explain how you get clouds. The volcano can give thick clouds if you know what you're doing. The cloud is plug & play for people who want clouds based on how the bowl works, and the amount of air you inhale. The length of the bamboo that heats up the air, to the actual bowl, is long, and allows a lot of air to come into contact with the bowl being that you need to do a good inhale to balance out the air pressure, which condenses once past the bowl. This is what gives clouds. The volcano uses a pump, so this high intake in air isn't really needed, so the cloud won't be as thick, BUT it will still be potent. What's needed is the knowledge on how to load the bowl, select an appropriate temperature, and how many bags you need. All of this is easy to figure out, if you are willing to learn or listen.

Being that the heater doesn't dip with the vapexhale from a hard inhale, it allows a cloud to form which is why it was made, but to say it is the best because of this is seeing vaporizers in the wrong way. Like I stated it is wonderful for beginner vaporist, but once you are a master at techniques, it hinders you. It's like driving with an automatic or a manual. The automatic is good for people who just want to ride and not do a lot of thinking. The manual is for people who want to get fast speeds, be more accurate, and quick reactions. There is not a "best", until you look at what you want.

BTW, I do agree water filter can help, but that is easy to get done with bags. Just get some type of small bubbler, and inhale the vapors form the bag into the bubbler. You can get a bubbler for $50.

Here's pictures of the davinci airpath:

 

[Sideshow-Bob]

The aluminum in the volcano doesn't heat up enough to cause problems, so it is the same as the cloud as far as being clean. In fact the volcano, has proven itself clean due to passing STRICT test in Germany. Germany doesn't play when it comes to these things.

The davinci vaporizer is exactly one of the companies I was referring to when I spoke of not being safe. There is a thread on fuckcombustion that showed how it's electronics were dangerously close to the heating path, and the problems associated with it.

You get thick vapors based on how you load the bowl, the herb you use, and how much air mixes with the vapor. This is science, not something I made up, which is why I linked the video to help explain how you get clouds. The volcano can give thick clouds if you know what you're doing. The cloud is plug & play for people who want clouds based on how the bowl works, and the amount of air you inhale. The length of the bamboo that heats up the air, to the actual bowl, is long, and allows a lot of air to come into contact with the bowl being that you need to do a good inhale to balance out the air pressure, which condenses once past the bowl. This is what gives clouds. The volcano uses a pump, so this high intake in air isn't really needed, so the cloud won't be as thick, BUT it will still be potent. What's needed is the knowledge on how to load the bowl, select an appropriate temperature, and how many bags you need. All of this is easy to figure out, if you are willing to learn or listen.

Being that the heater doesn't dip with the vapexhale from a hard inhale, it allows a cloud to form which is why it was made, but to say it is the best because of this is seeing vaporizers in the wrong way. Like I stated it is wonderful for beginner vaporist, but once you are a master at techniques, it hinders you. It's like driving with an automatic or a manual. The automatic is good for people who just want to ride and not do a lot of thinking. The manual is for people who want to get fast speeds, be more accurate, and quick reactions. There is not a "best", until you look at what you want.

i'm german you know and i have been owning the volcano for nearly a decade now, and with all my german precision i'm quite sure i figured out how to use it by now

what you write contradicts everything i have experienced first hand when it comes to vaping.... the only setting in which i find the volcano still usefull is for parties and cannabis/vape noobs... with almost any highend vape on the market you have more influence on the vapor-density/quality than with the volcano (direct draw ) the learning curve of the volcano is inexistent...

also i never wrote the cloud is the best, if you go back and read my first post you quoted you'll see that i haven't tried it yet...

furthermore i'm talking about the daVinci ASCENT, which will be all glass vapor path as well... i picked daVinci exactly because of this as an example: they are a company that assamble their vapes in china for cheap and sell in mass-quantity - and even they realized that what people want and where the market is going is pure vapor path and inert materials... personally i have more hopes to find my go-to portable in the thermovape cera - another completely "clean" vape...

oh and i never said the aluminium in the volacano heater is a problem, just that it's different - and ime it's a difference you can taste...

all this has been discussed on fuckcombustion.com at great length...it's been long established there is no single best vaporizer, it's all preferences


p.s. for those that want to try something like the cloud but don't want to spend that much money: check out http://gnomeglass.com/vapes/index.html , highly recommended, the gong version is very thick and hard hitting and the cheapest all glass path available, the portable one is nice as well... but careful these do indeed come with a learning curve

 

[Truthman]

i'm german you know and i have been owning the volcano for nearly a decade now, and with all my german precision i'm quite sure i figured out how to use it by now

what you write contradicts everything i have experienced first hand when it comes to vaping.... the only setting in which i find the volcano still usefull is for parties and cannabis/vape noobs... with almost any highend vape on the market you have more influence on the vapor-density/quality than with the volcano (direct draw ) the learning curve of the volcano is inexistent...

also i never wrote the cloud is the best, if you go back and read my first post you quoted you'll see that i haven't tried it yet...

furthermore i'm talking about the daVinci ASCENT, which will be all glass vapor path as well... i picked daVinci exactly because of this as an example: they are a company that assamble their vapes in china for cheap and sell in mass-quantity - and even they realized that what people want and where the market is going is pure vapor path and inert materials... personally i have more hopes to find my go-to portable in the thermovape cera - another completely "clean" vape...

oh and i never said the aluminium in the volacano heater is a problem, just that it's different - and ime it's a difference you can taste...

all this has been discussed on fuckcombustion.com at great length...it's been long established there is no single best vaporizer, it's all preferences


p.s. for those that want to try something like the cloud but don't want to spend that much money: check out http://gnomeglass.com/vapes/index.html , highly recommended, the gong version is very thick and hard hitting and the cheapest all glass path available, the portable one is nice as well... but careful these do indeed come with a learning curve

I was referring to Germany's strict laws for being safe, not how to operate it. I'm not dissing you, but too many people don't use the volcano or ANY vaporizer right. The reason why vapexhale is so good is that it allows anyone to get great results, but once you know how to use a vaporizer right, you can get better results with other vaporizers, you just won't get as thick clouds. That is all I'm stating.

People forget we are using hot air to extract actives from a plant or it's concentrate. When we use proper temperatures, you don't need that much air to do this, so the vapor isn't thick. It is the excess air that thickens it up. It's the equivalent of making whipped cream. The more you whip it, and bring in air, the thicker and bigger it gets. Another example is a lit joint or cigarette. You will notice the smoke being released at the cherry is lite, but when you inhale a lot of air, the exhale is thicker, and this is due to the excess air puffing up the smoke Vaporizing is still a new technique, but until we look at it different from smoking we won't get to experience the strengths of it, but maybe we as a community aren't ready. I don't know.

Thanks for letting me know about the davinci Ascent, it looks promising.

 

[HOVAH2.0]

whatever the science behind the Vapexhaul, Im sold!
damn, this thread is 2 pages!

I get too high, and I cant do mental calculations of how to get the best hit from a vap, Really! the reason we buy a vap is to get a better taste.........., Im going to buy the machine because these people deserve to make money for the hard work.... but then take it apart and see whats going on inside and post pics! ..

 

[Truthman]

whatever the science behind the Vapexhaul, Im sold!
damn, this thread is 2 pages!

I get too high, and I cant do mental calculations of how to get the best hit from a vap, Really! the reason we buy a vap is to get a better taste.........., Im going to buy the machine because these people deserve to make money for the hard work.... but then take it apart and see whats going on inside and post pics! ..

No offense, but I got into vaping to get higher off of less herb, health reasons, as well as get a better taste. Taste wasn't the main reason I got into vaping. Also, once you get into vaporizing, and seeing how wild it is to get different flavors off of the same herb, getting different highs just by adjusting temperatures, and getting super high off of very little herb by using the techniques that I described, you will see doing "mental calculations" as something fun to do. You will also be a KING of getting blazed because no other tool will get you as blazed as a vaporizer once used right. The best of the best won't be able to hang with you.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the vapexhale, it's a good vaporizer, but there is no need to take it apart, and maybe waste your money, it has been done already

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud.5247/page-419

 

[Clive]

Truthman is spot on I think he forgot to mention that exhaling through the nose slowly gives superb flavour. The high from the volcano is more intense it never let's me down no matter what the weed is like.

 

[Truthman]

Thanks Clive, I just realized that I forgot to mention that last night!. That is weird that you would post it, right when I realized it!.

Yeah, the nose is really where we get most of the flavor from things that are aromatic. The tongue deals mostly with salty, bitter, sweet, sour, and umami. The reason why you experience the thousands of other flavors when they are in your mouth, is because the light molecules rise up into the nose, and lets us experience them.

Just make sure you use some type of water filter, just in case you get some type of irritation from the air being too dry, too hot or some particulate matter being released with the vapor.