Vape temp help

[bigdaddyc9]

Med user from NY needs info.I just bought an Davinci Ascent vaporizer and am perplexed.I am using a high temp and it doesn't seem to be putting out thick vapor.I do not want to combust.I am at 410 degrees farenhiet and getting vapor just not a thick cloud and I am pulling hard on it too.Thanks for any info.I grind up all meds.Thanks BigD

 

[HyDroid]

There are two factors to consider: the temperature you set it at and the speed at which the air flows over the heating element.

Consider leaving a pot of cold water on a hot stove for 5 seconds. Take it off, it's basically the same temperature. Consider leaving the same pot on for 5 minutes. Maybe it's boiling.

Same principle. If you pull the air too fast over the element it's like leaving it on for 5 seconds, it doesn't get a chance to heat up. But if you pull slower, things heat up more.

Also, things vaporize at a certain rate at a given temperature. The slower you pull, the more good stuff accumulates in the air you are pulling, and the thicker the hit. (it's a little more complicated than this but that's basically it)

So, in conclusion, the slower you pull the thicker the vapor hit will be (counterintuitive but true). Try setting your temp down to 360 and pulling very slowly, I mean take at least 20 seconds to fill your lungs.

When I get crazy I can take 60 seconds.

 

[Max Headroom]

weed must be ground up really well!!
the powdery the better.

 

[RB56]

Might be a moisture issue too - too moist will slow things down.

Is it getting you high? Expect much less visible vapor than you're used to with smoke, if you're new to vaping. Much less visible vapor and much less physical impact when you pull it into your lungs. If it's getting you high you're doing it right - no matter what it looks like

 

[bigdaddyc9]

No its not really getting me high...it is fresh too so maybe a moisture issue.Should I leave a bud out to completely dry as in crispy then grind it in my grinder then vape it?I used a HotBox vape before and it floored me.If I smoke the bud I have I get wicked baked.I am currently enjoying Platinum Jack Herer and its sticky and icky but not putting out much vapor.I set temp at 375 and get visible vapor but no real high maybe a slight buzz but absolutely not the same as my little wooden bowl..:^(....but want to do things healthier plus my wife hates the smell of cannabis both raw and burnt so I thought I d kill 2 birds and buy this vaporizer..the Acsent from Davinci..270$ beans to smoke/vape cannabis with..my old lady gave me the ok but she was not amused with the price.I wanted a Volcano but couldnt justify 600$..thanks folks for the help it is appreciated...BigD

 

[theJointedOne]

Arizer Solo is the superior vape. The davinci is a pos imo

 

[pinkus]

lower and slower. Dry the weed thoroughly and grind fine, but not SO fine it blocks air flow. seriously, lower temp, sssssssssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooowwwwww inhale.

 

[HyDroid]

Yeah sounds like your stuff isn't dry enough. When it's too wet the outer stuff dries first and starts vaporizing the good stuff while the inner stuff is still dumping moisture.

While bud is steaming moisture out it doesn't really get too much above the boiling point of water so you don't get the good stuff.

If it is finely (not too finely as per pinkus) ground and pretty dry then a good slow pull can dump (almost) all of the actives in one hit.

 

[bigdaddyc9]

Jointedone..its the Ascent not the original Davinci

 

[moodster]

solo is the best portable vape !

 

[pinkus]

solo is the best portable vape !

It's head and shoulders above the magic flight and the iolite. If you vape as much as I do you'll fry the battery in about 4-6 months. I replaced the first one. It cost $13 IIRC and takes a little soldering/electrical tape. I did however crack the endplate so be careful. This did not affect how well it works, and that is very, very well indeed.

I'm going to go ahead and get a second one and opt for the powercord option...yep it's good enough to work as a home unit. On par with my silver surfer.

 

[kOdO1912]

Vaporizer Temperatures for Cannabis

Vaporizer Temperatures for Cannabis

Maybe this article will be helpful.Comes from the zamnesia com

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What‘s the perfect temperature?

Before exploring the depths of cannabinoid boiling temperatures, here‘s the key findings:
There‘s a temperature range in which different compounds of cannabis are released, each showing unique qualities in effect. While only experimentation will show you the high that suits you best, an ideal temperature to extract a wide range of psychoactive compounds is 185 °C. The optimal temperature range for cannabis is between 180 - 210 °C. Temperatures below 190 °C. tend to produce a more cerebral high, temperature above that tend to induce a body high.
Cannabinoid Temperature Guide

The range of temperature in which all cannabinoids evaporate lies between 157 and 220 degrees Celsius. As all cannabinoids have different boiling points, vaporizing the same bowl of herb at different temperatures will generate different results. In general, there‘s two main effects which we will call the “buzz high” and the “body high”. As mentioned above, lower temperatures will have more of a heady effect, whilst higher temperatures will have a more body load effect.
Note: Although some of the following cannabinoids require temperatures above 200 degrees Celsius to evaporate, setting a vaporizer to that temperature runs the risk of causing combustion, which should be avoided.
THC - 157 °C.
The most famous cannabinoid. It has both euphoric and analgesic effects, inducing a great sense of relaxation.
CBD - 160 - 180 °C.
The cannabinoid most sought after by medical users for its vast array of medicinal applications. It partly counters the effects of THC, effectively countering feelings of anxiety and paranoia.
Delta-8-THC - 175 – 178 °C.
This cannabinoid is very similar to THC, but it is more stable and less psychoactive. It has great anti-vomiting properties.
CBN - 185 °C.
CBN is often found in quite small amounts, however, its effects can still be felt. It breaks down THC and is highly associated with a sedative effect.
CBC - 220 °C.
This cannabinoid has anti-inflammatory and anti-fungal properties.
THCV - 220 °C.
THCV has been shown to moderate the psychoactive effects of THC, but more research is required.
Combustion: Dry weed can begin to combust at around 200 °C. The maximum heat weed can take before starting to burn is around 230 °C., depending on how humid it is.
Flavonoids

Along with terpenoids, flavonoids are little known compared to the famed cannabinoids. Flavonoids are a large class of plant pigments that are sometimes referred to as Vitamin P. Terpenoids and Flavonoids are partly responsible for the looks, taste and smell of a particular strain. They are the reason we open the zip lock before we buy, because their smell reveals a lot about the character of the plant.
They are also thought to have secondary health benefits. The following outlines both the effects and the temperatures at which the flavonoids vaporize at.
Beta-sitosterol - 134 °C.
This flavonoid is thought to have anti-inflammatory qualities.
Apigenin - 178 °C.
Apigenin is thought to be estrogenic, anxiolytic and have anti-inflammatory properties.
Cannflavin A - 182 °C.
This flavonoid is a COX inhibitor.
Quercetin - 250 °C.
Quercetin is an antioxidant and anti-viral flavonoid. It boils at , well out of the cannabis vaporization temperatures.
Terpenoids

Terpenoids are structurally related to terpenes and are naturally occurring in a wide range of plants. In part, they contribute to what what gives plants their unique aromatic quality. The scent of cinnamon, cloves and menthol are examples of well known terpenoids. In fact, the strongest known naturally occurring psychedelic compound - Salvinorin A - is a terpenoid.
The following descriptions outline both the effects and boiling points of terpenoids.
Beta-caryophyllene - 199 °C.
Thought to be anti-inflammatory and anti-malarial.
Alpha-terpinol - 156 °C.
This terpenoid is an antioxidant, sedative, antibiotic and anti-malarial.
Beta-myrcene - 166- 168 °C.
This is analgesic, an antibiotic and anti-inflammatory.
Delta-3-carene - 168 °C.
This terpenoid has anti-inflammatory properties.
1,8-cineole - 176 °C.
1,8-cineole increase cerebral blood flow, acts as a stimulant, and is anti-viral, anti-inflammatory and an antibiotic.
D-limonene - 177 °C.
Perhaps surpringsingly, D-limonene appears naturally in cannabis. It has anti-mutagenic, antidepressant and immune system potentiating properties.
P-cymene - 177 °C.
P-cymene is an antibiotic and an anticandidal agent.
Linalool - 198 °C.
This is an antidepressant, sedative and immune system potentiator.
Terpinol-4-ol - 209 °C.
This is an antibiotic and an AChE inhibitor.
Borneol - 210 °C.
Borneol is an antibiotic.
Alpha-terpineol - 217 °C.
This terpenoid is a sedative, antibiotic, antioxidant and AChE inhibitor.
Pulegone - 224 °C.
Pulegone is a sedative and potentially has memory boosting properties.
What are toxins?

Very simply put, toxins are chemicals that can be harmful to our body. The advantage of vaporizers lies in their unique ability to extract the active ingredients of cannabis, but without the toxins of combustions, such as tar and carbon monoxide.
Vapor can still contain trace amounts of toxins. But compared to the over 100 different PAHs found in smoke, the one single PAH discovered in vapour is obviously a massive reduction. On the other hand, toxins that come from pesticides, herbicides and other chemical agents will also concentrate in vapour - that‘s why choosing organic cannabis is always smart.
The following is small selection of some of the toxins that are released through combustion.
Carbon monoxide and tar
Released by combustion in the form of smoke. They are carcinogenic and can cause lung related problems.
Toleuene
This is not thought to be a very serious toxin, and only appears in small amounts. It can cause light-headedness, nausea, sleepiness and a loss of appetite. Its boiling point is 110 °C., so there is no avoiding it.
Benzene
Benzene is a carcinogen and has a boiling point of 200 °C.
Maphthalene
This toxin is possibly a carcinogen and causes light-headedness, nausea, loss of appetite and pale skin. Its boiling point is 218 °C.
Cannabis moisture and vaporizer temperature

Unlike when you use a bong or smoke a joint, bone dry cannabis can still be a delight in a vaporizer. However, because it is so dry, it will vaporize much faster – if it is too hot you run the risk of flash boiling the active ingredients, eliminating taste and flavour. As it is largely going to depend on the situation and strain you are using, there is no definitive guide to how to properly vaporize particularly dry weed; but as a rule of thumb you will want to reduce the temperature from your norm, going lower the drier it is.
Conversely, if your bud is fresh, then it may be very high in moisture. As a result, it can sometimes be hard to get cannabinoids out. To deal with this, it is recommended to do what‘s called a flavonoid run. By putting the vaporizer at a lower temperature (around 138 – 148 °C.), it is possible to gain a bag of flavonoid vapour whilst slowly drying out your cannabis a bit. After this run, your cannabis should be dry enough to vaporize efficiently at THC and other cannabinoid temperatures. "