Vacuum sealing clean urine to make it last longer

[Shmoke a bewl]

Hello friends, kindly asking for some advice. For some reason it takes me an incredibly long time to piss clean (on the order of 90 days, regardless of exercise, diet, detox, etc). As such, now that I have finally been cleaned out, I am trying to figure out the most effective way to store urine long term.

Previously, I would put it in an 'air-tight' container in the freezer and cover it with foil wrap to prevent light exposure (for whatever that's worth), but I am trying to refine my technique. I have been thinking about using a vacuum sealed mason jar or Foodsaver, as I think this may help delay bacterial growth, and I favor the former as I think it may hold up better in the freezer, though I am not sure if the glass would crack. Here are some pics of what I am talking about:

I looked through the forum archives for quite awhile and was unable to find a similar post about this, though if there is information about this specific aspect of subing I missed, please direct me. Does anyone have experience with this technique, or know of a better one?

Ideally, would like to keep the stored samples good for at least a year (if not longer) as 3 months to clean out is no practical way to be prepared for randoms, and I don't know enough reliable non smokers to get a friend's sample at the last minute. I don't like messing with synthetics as I am worried about an indeterminate sample being sent for GCMS or HPLC after the initial immunoassay (I know some people swear by this but I have had bad experiences).

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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[50YardLine]

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[Ganja Maker]

Honestly, that seems like a lot of trouble to go through. If I were you I would just order some of the synthetic urine, and just hydrate it when time comes up when you need it.
Who wants to have piss laying around the house for a year?
It will work all the same, as I believe they use synthetic to calibrate their testing equipment anyway.

 

[Gizmo]

what is synthetic urine ?

 

[Ganja Maker]

It's fake pee. You can get it at seriousmonkeybizz.com

 

[Shmoke a bewl]

Honestly, that seems like a lot of trouble to go through. If I were you I would just order some of the synthetic urine, and just hydrate it when time comes up when you need it.
Who wants to have piss laying around the house for a year?
It will work all the same, as I believe they use synthetic to calibrate their testing equipment anyway.

I have had issues with synthetic urine coming back as indeterminate and then failing the follow up gas chromatography/high performance liquid chromatography tests. Ended up losing a very important career opportunity because of this. This may have been an experience that was specific to the testing facility, but it has really pushed me away from synthetics.

I have considered heat pressurized canning as an option, as it seems that one of the main culprits for 'spoiling' urine over time may be the bacteria in the sample. That being said, I would also assume that the pressurization would concentrate the urine, possibly resulting in absurdly high specific gravities or creatine.

 

[MicroRoy]

I have been invenvolved in canning food for years.Pressure canning should cause no boil down.

Water bath canning would not produce a sterile finish.

I do water bath with low acid foods then freeze in good canning jars. Boil the jars then let them cool for a day then freeze them. I have not busted a jar yet. At least not from freezing.

 

[HempKat]

Ended up losing a very important career opportunity because of this.

This is what really pisses me off (no pun intended) how much has been lost because of urine tests that only prove that a person at some point in the last month or two smoked or consumed some cannabis. I mean how many people who had great potential to make positive contributions to society but weren't given a chance because they couldn't manage to pass a piss test? I know plenty of people that were hard workers and good at what they do that lost their jobs because random urine tests would catch activity they never did on the job.

As to the question of vacuum sealing urine I have no idea based on experience. I do know however that liquids expand when frozen so it is conceivable that if you made a strong enough vacuum the glass would experience greater pressure from the inside against the glass, even if there is physical space for the frozen urine to expand into. Therefore I'd say if just freezing it has worked for you so far then just stick with that. No need to fix it if it's not broken.

 

[Shmoke a bewl]

I have been involved in canning food for years.Pressure canning should cause no boil down.

Water bath canning would not produce a sterile finish.

I do water bath with low acid foods then freeze in good canning jars. Boil the jars then let them cool for a day then freeze them. I have not busted a jar yet. At least not from freezing.

Thank you. This is very helpful.

Therefore I'd say if just freezing it has worked for you so far then just stick with that. No need to fix it if it's not broken.

It has worked, but only to a degree. However, samples after a year of freezing have, when unfrozen, been cloudy. My assumption is that the trace bacteria (urine is almost entirely sterlie, but I believe there is a trace amount of bacteria present even if you do not have a UTI) proliferated over time and created a 'dirty' urine specimen.

 

[Capt.Ahab]

Maybe you could use some sort of preservative or stabilizer. Something they wouldnt be looking for. Im just throwing stuff out there... Citric acid? Salt? Sulfites? Sorbates?
Does the synthetic urine have a preservative of some sort in it?

 

[amanda88]

Simply microwave ur pee before the exam

it warms the sample and kills any stinky bacteria in the mix

but I'm with Ganja^^^ (synthetics)on this ..its cheap hassle free

and like my friend Alice come with a 'plastic penis'

which she was very excited about ...lol

 

[Midnight Tokar]

....and like my friend Alice come with a 'plastic penis'

which she was very excited about ...lol

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