uzbeka auto triple cotyledon seedling question ...

[aloneinthewoods]

popped some of my f3 uzbekistan x tajikistan cross and got this strange seedling at first thought it was mutated but on closer inspection it turns out to be my first ever triple cotyledon plant the strain sometimes makes triploid branches and shows the twin seed trait (two seeds per calyx) ..... but shes turning out to be a real freak !






any one elses autos show any triple cotyledon / triploid plants ?
and does a triple cotyledon seedling mean it will turn into a full on triploid ?

 

[dargo]

Never seen it with the cotyledons before, 10 out of 10 for coolness!

are the 3 true leaves or just the 2? hard t see in that photo, it looks like the could be 3

 

[aloneinthewoods]

Never seen it with the cotyledons before, 10 out of 10 for coolness!

are the 3 true leaves or just the 2? hard t see in that photo, it looks like the could be 3

hi there dargo just been checking out your summer outdoor grow respect some really tasty looking plants the m15 looks great !


shes grown a bit today ( day 1 ) and as greened up nice under the flourescent lighting by the look of things she as three sets of leaves !

heres a better pic




what do you think looks like it may be a triploid

 

[dargo]

I love the magic number are you going to update this thead throughout the grow?

 

[lowrydergrower]

Yea please keep us updated I would love to see this thing grow up.

 

[aloneinthewoods]

THREE IS MY MAGIC NUMBER YES IT IS


! yes i will do updates at least once a week ive sprouted some more seeds so she has some company will start a grow log when i pot them up and things get going this week .....

they are going in 3ltr pots
with bio bizz nutes
under a 400w hps
about 20 in all minus the males that come out

she really is a great strain ive been breeding towards the uzbek indica side short and bushy but choosing the plants that display the imense tajikistan frosting im hoping for good things with these f3's there mom was very special very very frosty and finnished early and she was a mind blowing smoke !

 

[tokinafaty420]

Twins.... one ate the other hence the 3 leaves.

 

[Tropic]

Interesting cross, is it 100% auto? AF landrace sounds great, especially the ones you mentionned! How's the end product (smell, taste, high)?
BTW this is a trifoliate plant, not a triploid (haploid, diploid, triploid, tetraploid, etc, refer to the number of copies of chromosomes in the cell ie. diploid = 2n chromosomes, where n is the number of different chromosomes). Sometimes trifoliates outgrow this trait, sometimes not. GMT had a very interesting thread on this topic:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53476
Best of luck with your grow

 

[Bighill]

I haven't seen it in an auto yet, but i had a couple do it when i was going through some kodiak gold seeds. Mine always seemed to grow out of it a few nodes up, but if it stays true you get a free bud site per node. Most of the top buds get a bizzar upside down u shape... Almost like a big harry vag If i had a pic kickign around i would post it up. I'll try to dig one up.

Keep us updated, i would like to see how it looks after a few weeks growth.

 

[20/4]

Cant wait to see what it looks like in a few weeks!

 

[aloneinthewoods]

first off thanks for your replys ....

Interesting cross, is it 100% auto? AF landrace sounds great, especially the ones you mentionned! How's the end product (smell, taste, high)?
BTW this is a trifoliate plant, not a triploid (haploid, diploid, triploid, tetraploid, etc, refer to the number of copies of chromosomes in the cell ie. diploid = 2n chromosomes, where n is the number of different chromosomes). Sometimes trifoliates outgrow this trait, sometimes not. GMT had a very interesting thread on this topic:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53476
Best of luck with your grow

yes auto landrace does sound great !!!! they where brought when i first found out about autos it was a spanish seed company selling auto landraces i also had an himalaylan blue but lost them early on i had three seeds of each and was going to do breed them seperate and hopefully make some seeds but i had three fems from the uzbeka and three males from the tajikistan so i just let them get on with it anf let them do there thing !

yes they are 100% auto and ive now cracked hundreds of seeds since i started with them !

I haven't seen it in an auto yet, but i had a couple do it when i was going through some kodiak gold seeds. Mine always seemed to grow out of it a few nodes up, but if it stays true you get a free bud site per node. Most of the top buds get a bizzar upside down u shape... Almost like a big harry vag If i had a pic kickign around i would post it up. I'll try to dig one up.

Keep us updated, i would like to see how it looks after a few weeks growth.

yes think its a first in auto ive seen once had one in a pack of skunk 1 years ago but it turned out male (like most others ive seen !)

Cant wait to see what it looks like in a few weeks!

thnakyou ......

 

[aloneinthewoods]

! How's the end product (smell, taste, high)?

hey tropic thanks for your detailed answer trifoliate was the word i was looking for ! after reading through my thread i noticed your question so weel here goes ....

buds are not very dense some plants have long thin buds displaying foxtailing (they would make exellent hash) others display more indica tip budding with egg shapeded side branching like the auto uzbekistan mom she was a great plant ive never tryed uzbek landrace weed (as far as i know... ) but if it tastes anything like she did then i but its great stuff the aroma was like the old school weed of the 80's but with a hint of skunk after breeding in the tajikistan she now as a wierd musky smell of skunk but with a hard hitting acrid smell that i cant really put into words the kind of thing what aromatheripy / essential fake cannabis oil would smell like kind of a sweet sickerly skunky fuel smell ........

high is ok heavy put you to sleep kind of stuff after to much not super strong but strong enough to kick your ass and ease your pains in one joint ...i suffer from knee and leg pain this stuff is a great pain easer high lasted for me around two hours before i even thought about another smoke but over all it was not to heavy but great for realxing in the evening time ..


Q ???

i think its wierd how uzbekistan has a indica as its landrace and tajikistan as a staiva as its landrace how is this possible i thought they kind of went on latitude or are i wrong ?? what difines a land race somthing that is truly wild or something that has been grown there for x number of years ?????

 

[Tropic]

Hey aloneinthewoods, thanks for detailing this cross!

Regarding your question on landraces, I believe that even if Uzbekistan and Tadjikistan are next to each other and similar in their latitudes, many micro climates can be found in these places, depending on altitude, humidity, if it's in a valley, in the mountains, etc... I'm no expert on this subject, but I think a wide variety of environmental conditions in these regions favor different expressions of Cannabis.
As an example, in India, most coastal landraces are very sativa and things start looking more indica as you go towards the mountains (I haven't seen this personally, this is what I've been told but it does make sense in my opinion).
Check this thread on Afghan Sativas and Uzbeki giant plants (a great read, thanks Zamalito):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=25927

I don't know what exactly qualifies a strain as a "landrace", I'd be tempted to say a landrace is a naturally occuring (because of natural selection in time) group of plants that have certain recurrent traits in common.
However, nowadays many cultivars (man selected) are sometimes called landraces, just because these specific genes have been isolated from exterior sources for years and thus, have acquired, or stabilized certain traits. As an example I talk about the local landraces of my island, but Cannabis is not native here, it was brought around 40 years ago. But most of the time when seeing local buds, you can recognize the region the plant came from because of its look, smell, taste and effect. So these are not exactly landraces because they've been partially (but not enough to make it a cultivar in my opinion) selected by man, but they have also been conditionned by their environment, that's why we consider them as our local landraces.

 

[DIRT DIGGLER]

Interesting cross, is it 100% auto? AF landrace sounds great

I recently came across some autoflower thai landrace beans..thaipan aka dragonrace haze...gonna pop them over the winter,should be interesting.
the uzbek's have peaked my interest for sometime...looking forward to your grow..best of luck.

 

[aloneinthewoods]

thankyou for the info and link tropic it was a great thread to read !

thanks for your re[ply dirtdiggler the dragonrace haze sounds like a nice plant any info on flowering time on them ?

i will be starting my grow log on this strain today