using pollen from a hermi

[stevr59]

hey guys i got a question i got some seeds from JLP a wile back, chem x? x c-99s
out of 6 seeds 3 made it, and there all female i was hoping to get one male to make a seed run but today i found out one of the females is a hermi my question is should i let that one go to seeds or would i be better off taking the pollen and pollinate the other female and in doing this will the next generation turn out to be hermis as well?

 

[eugenegreen]

Did it herm due to light leaks, stress, etc...??? Or did it just plain herm under optimal conditions??

 

[hidingtree]

ok , hey stevr !^^^ good question above ^^^ that asked lemme say : when you pollinate with a hermie that trait may be passed on in successive generations . it may not appear in the first generation offspring . it may be a surprise later on in a latter generation . me and a mate are used a hermie mex hybrid to pollinate a sour diesel plant . the results were successful . there have been fairly even m/f ratios in the first generation . would i produce seeds from this first generation . no . this is where the hermie trait could appear . any way it may be lucrative to do so with one generation of seeds . but, could be alot of time spent and not much achieved in the fruits of your labor . (i.e. hermies in your garden when your expecting sensemilla is a pain in the friggin ass )so that said . it is worth a try . go for it . if nothing else , chalk one up to lesson learned . many blessings , hidingtree .

 

[cannanaut]

Its interesting q. If u have 10 plants grown outdoors under perfect conditions, of which 9 females 1 hermi would seeds be hermi or most female or what? hope u understand my q. Peace

 

[NoNameNoshame]

Worth the shot if it's the only option to pass on genetics.

You could keep a nice stock of seeds from every generation and have a better Idea which plants passed on the hermi gene..........but it's got to be worth it to play with it very long.

 

[stevr59]

i think it herrmed due to a light leak or stress i just transplanted it to coco a few days back and it was not showing any signs of sex and i know my door is warp on my mother room, i just wanted to get as much seeds as possible off one run to save in case i need to shut down for a wile so i will have them to grow later as if now i am not sure if its worth growing again or not since i have not smoke any to see if its any good i wold try some but i am trying to find a job and you know how they all love to dope test now days, but i take it must be good or JLP would have not wasted his time breeding it. i got one in the flowing room about 4 week into flowing now and got 2 clones from her out side along with one from seed. and all of them are flowing as well, the herrmi i have separated for now, but if breeding this herrmie will give me female plants later down the road then i might go a head and pollinate a few buds. not sure if i will grow this strain next run or not i may grow my ak47 x bb next run just all depends on yield and potencies. i forgot to add if i reg vegg the hermi will it go back to being a female only, after it recovers.

 

[SacredBreh]

Hello Stevr and all.......

Hello Stevr and all.......

This is a fairly controversial issue and definitely will get different answers from different folks. Here is my experience and side by side experiment due to my questions concerning the subject.

Blueberry from Dutch Passion is known for hermies and mutations. I had ten ladies grown under perfect, ideal conditions. Of the ten, two hermied. I destroyed one and used the other in a side by side study. Absolutely no light leaks or others stresses that I could identify so it was either factor x or a missed stress source. Same room dialed in under years of practice with same conditions, nutes, etc. I also had one male I saved out of the batch. I contained the male and collected pollen from the male in such away there was not contamination of the females. The hermie female exhibited male flowers on the opposite side of the main stem as female flowers on the corresponding node. I removed all but a few male flowers of the hermie. I collected the pollen from the hermie male flowers in such a way as to not cause contamination of the females.

I select the best normal female and the hermie female(predominately) to pollinate. Separate branches on the hermie (predominately female with some male flowers) and separate branches on the best normal female. Pollen was applied using a very light artistic paint brush from the hermie sample and normal male sample of pollen. The branches were given a couple of hours then with a mist spray bottle each of the pollinated branches were washed down to remove any excess pollen.

All pollinated branches of the hermie female and the normal female produced seeds in good numbers and developed normally. There were no seeds on the nine other normal females. The seeds were collected from each branch that had been marked with either hermie pollen or normal pollen from the single male.

The corresponding seeds were kept separate. A batch of hermie pollinated seeds from the hermie female and normal pollinated seeds from the hermie female. The same with the normal female. This ended up with four samples of seeds. One hermie pollinated batch from the hermie female and one normal pollinated batch from the hermie female. Same thing with the normal female, one batch pollinated with normal pollen and one batch with hermie pollen.

Each of the four batches of seeds were germed and grown out for 4 weeks then switched to 12/12. All plants that came from the seeds that were from the hermie pollen came out female (10 from the mother hermie female and 10 from the normal female) 20 out of 20 female. The pants that came from seeds from the normal pollen came out 6 females/ 4 males for the normal mother and 4 males/ 6 females for the hermie mother.

All females were kept marked and grown out to full maturity and harvested. No hermie characteristics seen in any of the females whether from hermie mother or normal mother or from hermie pollen or normal pollen. Total of 30 females without any hermie characteristics.

Clones taken from each plant prior to flowering. 100% strike rate on clones. Clones vegged for 2 weeks then put to 12/12. Bottom branch of each mature clone pollinated with normal pollen from the original male. Seeds produced from each plant kept separate. Results of all seeds were in close to normal 50/50 ratios (for males and females) and all females showed no hermie characteristics regardless of original mother hermie or not.

This was actually done with meticulous records and markings. Hope this helps with anyones questions. For me IMHO it shows femanized seeds or the hermie characteristic do not get passed along genetically as a rule but that the plant has the ability to exhibit the characteristic in response to sometimes known or unknown trigger mechanisms.

This was a small study with a small sample size but does generally allow for some confidence in my supposition.

Peace

 

[stevr59]

thanks scaredbreh for that info that what i was wanting to hear. just wanted seeds in case it keeper as now i dont realy have space to keep mothers and i might have to move before long so cant be taking mothers with me. as far as i can tell i think the reason she herme on me was either from a light leak or stress the first soil mix i put it in all most killed it and got it in coco now but its still not doing to well looks like it hs nute burn now so i am flushing and lower the ppm for a wile and see if it don't perk up. but all i want from it is some pollen but i think its to late for that my main female is in her 5 th week for flowering now, i got 2 clones from the main female and one from seeds out side and they all went into flowering as well. but again thanks for the info.
peace from nw florida