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Using fox farm with my organic mix?

Natural

Active member
I had some nutrient def. last time during flowering.

I got some fox farm grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom for free. I want to try it out half way through flowering so I won't encounter the nutrient def again... I know it's not completely organic, but oh well...

Right now my soil mixture is:
60% Peat
30% Perlite
10% EWC

Then per gallon:
1 tbs Dolomite lime (Should I be using 2? I hate pH problems last time...)
1 1/2 tbs blood and bone meal, it's a mixture in one, not seperate (4-10-0)

Then I water the mixture with 2 tbs/gal liquid kelp (0-0-5), 2 tbs/gal molasses, and 2 tbs/gal of this mixture of mychorrizae with water retaining crystals (says to activate it in a gallon of water) then let it all compost for a month. I turn the soil at least once a week.

Will using the fox farm be over kill?
Should I cut the nutrient solution in half or what?
 
G

Guest

1 Tblsp should do the trick. The grow big and tiger bloom are not entirely organic. Big bloom is. No, shouldnt be overkill. I can use a full tablspoon per gallon of tiger bloom per gallon so long as I use enzymes too. You might want to use the grow big all the way through to flush as it is organic and wont burn.

Good luck!
 

3BM

Member
Hey Natural:

What deficiencies did you experience? One way to solve this problem is to double the quantity of whatever nutrient was deficient in the soil mix. If they were N deficient try getting a slow release N source (like Mexican guano, alfalfa meal, FF Peace of Mind), if they were P deficient just double your bone meal in the next mix. If they were K deficient, try adding slow release K to the soil (Kelp meal or Greensand). However, barring this approach adding solubles is a great way to combat deficiencies. Grow big is 12-7-7 if I remember correctly. This is great for transition between grow and flower, and should probably work as a one time dose. Big Bloom is a nice additive throughout flower, completely organic and very light. Watch the plants closely though, if you feed and the next day see yellow leaf tips, ram horm curling, or brown leaf edges it means the plants had all they could handle already and the feeding was overkill. If the leaves remain green and the growth continues steadily then they needed the feed, think about continuing the regimine once a week (or once every other week). Tiger bloom is a higly concentrated nutrient and should probably be used as a one time dose, or at most once a week for two weeks during peak flower (given what you already have in the soil). Watch the plants closely when applying and start with half the recomended dose, if they tip or curl then lay off they didnt need it.

3BM
 

3BM

Member
Are these leaves from the bottom of the plant or the top? Its hard to tell from photos but if the leaves are lower, then it looks like an N deficiency. Are the stems slightly purple, it looks so in the photo. Both of these signs indicate N shortage. Try adding a slow release N source to the soil, as blood meal is highly soluble and will deplete as available N in a few weeks. Also hitting the plants with a light dose of Grow big midway into flower may help to keep the leaves green and healthy. Hope that helps.

3BM
 

Natural

Active member
Ok man thanks.

The leaves are towards the middle part of the plant, alot of the lower ones had died when that picture was taken...
 
G

Guest

Thats a nit defeciency if you ask me,I use grow big the first 2-3 weeks of 12/12,its during the "stretch" that most of the veg growth occurs.I give my plants a shot Tiger bloom the day I go 12/12 and take cuttings because the cuts will lacl P,but then all I use is N for close to 3 weeks.My plants are a lot healthier these days,very little yellowing and dying of fan leaves past the 30 day mark.I used to get a lot of yellow fans,not any more though
 
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