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useing cleaning spray bottle for clones??

matt11

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So I cleaned the shit out of a Lysol all purpose cleaning bottle; multiple hot water rinses, let it sit in hot water, cleaned with dish soap. But it still smells like the cleaning solution.
Think this should be cool to use to mist down my fresh cuttings and semi established clones? I figure the smell is just minor, since theirs no way any chemicals could still be in the bottle since I rinsed it well, right? I ben useing it for like 2 days. And I can't go out and buy a fresh spray bottle either at the moment, for another 2 week (don't ask).
Anyone do the same thing before?
 

MicroRoy

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Let it air out between mistings. Then uske fresh water. There will be chemicals leaching out of the plastic for years.
 

matt11

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Thanks for the advice. I plan on doing just that, letting it air out between mistings. I'm only going to use this bottle for now, I really have no choice right now, as I recently took some cuttings that need misting under the dome(s).
If their were any kind of adverse effects due to the chemicals, think I should see the signs on the leaves? Like discoloration, spotting,ect?
 

MicroRoy

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If you look they sprayer might fit on a water bottle or catsup bottle. Or something like that.
 

St. Phatty

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So I cleaned the shit out of a Lysol all purpose cleaning bottle; multiple hot water rinses, let it sit in hot water, cleaned with dish soap. But it still smells like the cleaning solution.
Think this should be cool to use to mist down my fresh cuttings and semi established clones? I figure the smell is just minor, since theirs no way any chemicals could still be in the bottle since I rinsed it well, right? I ben useing it for like 2 days. And I can't go out and buy a fresh spray bottle either at the moment, for another 2 week (don't ask).
Anyone do the same thing before?

Some hardware stores sell the empty spray bottles for 50 cents. Least they used to.

I haven't sprayed clones but I've worn out my trigger finger spraying pollinated females to try & chill out the pollen before they go back in the main room.
 

VerdantGreen

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ive used all kinds of odd spray bottles and never had a problem. best to spray a good load of water through the spray to make sure there is no residue left in the tube.
 

Mikell

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Clones shouldn't be misted more than once or twice. Too much slows down rooting.

And it's not essential, so there's no reason to use that bottle. You're smelling residue.

If you're using it to raise RH in the dome for the first day or two there are other solutions (tray of water).
 

VerdantGreen

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guys, the OP has said he cant get out to buy a spray bottle for 2 weeks.

also, cloning techniques very much depends on the conditions where you are. i wouldnt be able to root clones without spraying twice a day, that said my cloning setup is very basic

p.s. hey mikell :tiphat: why does spraying slow down rooting?
 

bigdad41296

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guys, the OP has said he cant get out to buy a spray bottle for 2 weeks.

also, cloning techniques very much depends on the conditions where you are. i wouldnt be able to root clones without spraying twice a day, that said my cloning setup is very basic

p.s. hey mikell :tiphat: why does spraying slow down rooting?

I I missed that part, I'd a clear some on them, I've never misted mine just another clear cup over the to make a humidity dome
 

Mikell

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guys, the OP has said he cant get out to buy a spray bottle for 2 weeks.

also, cloning techniques very much depends on the conditions where you are. i wouldnt be able to root clones without spraying twice a day, that said my cloning setup is very basic

p.s. hey mikell :tiphat: why does spraying slow down rooting?

Couldn't say for sure, just something I've noticed. Misting clones, domes and keeping RH high always took a few days longer/lower strike. Maybe it was all three in conjunction, I did change a few things all at once.

Damnit, that's how bro science starts.

Fastest results I get are with one mist of weak kelp and only a day at high RH.

Local conditions are everything though, as you say. Many factors are at play. What is prime for me may be shite to others.

How are you cloning and what local environmentals? Curiousity. I believe I've read it before but if I had a photographic memory I wouldn't be doing what I do ;)
 

VerdantGreen

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i use small peat pucks and take clones quite small, 3" or so, leaving just 2-3 leaves on.
i root in a humidity dome on a half size seed tray but i like a tiny bit of fresh air going through so i leave the vent open a crack and leave the 4 corner drain holes in the tray open (the rest i put tape over) - which is probably why i need to spray them. they will wilt if i forget to spray them for a day. humidity is very variable here and i keep the clones warm and lit using a cfl lamp, i change the wattage from 9 - 23 watts on the lamp in order to control temp.
i get good results this way. nothing very special about the method except that it takes up very little space allowing me to keep the tiny 6x8" cab in a bedroom cupboard

presumably you guys who dont spray your clones keep them unvented or with standing water?

VG
 

Lester Beans

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Transpiration. When taking a clone the root system that supports the growth is removed. Therefore the plant is transpiring water with no way to uptake enough to match transpiration. That being said, the misting or the dome keeps them from wilting the first few days. If you continue to spray them the rootless clone will just stay alive with no real urgency to grow roots, because water is being provided through the leaves. When the spraying stops the plant has no choice but to root if it wants to survive. There lies your rooting time.

Small clones have less leaf, therefore are easier to root. Large clones have much more vegetation to support, which makes them harder to get through the wilt phase. When I take larger clones I trim the larger leaves back some to reduce the amount of vegetation the plant has to support without roots. Humidity is crucial for the first few days.

When using an aero cloner I do not use a dome, maybe spray twice just to keep them perky, then they are on their own. Popular misconception with aero cloners is to keep the water warm, which results in rotting stems and root rot once they begin to root. Cloner water I keep between 65 and 70. Cloning in soil, rockwool, peat pucks, etc it needs to be warm, 80ish, and as much humidity as possible for the first 3 days - a week depending on variety.

Hope that helps VG.

And to the OP, if that bottle is your only choice, clean as best you can and go for it.
 

VerdantGreen

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good run down lester, thanks.

although i dont think increased transpiration rates will decrease rooting time initially, only after the callus tissue/root initials form is it advantageous for the humidity to drop below 100%

lower light levels also reduce transpiration which will help.

ive always thought there is a bit of voodoo/dark arts to rooting cuttings. you have to find a way that works well for you and then stick to it. lots of different ways can potentially be successful.

VG
 
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