Unofficial Coco Coir Growers Thread

[alexnalaskaOG]

ok gang, I pulled atrue stoner move. after 10yrs of clone to clone perpetual growing of 5 or more strains in apeat based soil, I read an article on this coconut mirical medium that was Very reusable. So after being in alaska, on an isolated island for a few years w/NO grow supplies, I walk into my 1st shope and was dumbfounded. I ended up going w/coco needless to say, and proceeded to have the worst 6months of my life. I proved that reading only 1/2 of anything can be devastating. more to come...

 

[alexnalaskaOG]

continued.., my woes did not start imediately(naturaly). I drive 300 miles,1way, to pick up 4 strains from good friends to give me a jump start while waiting on the new beans I have. The start of problems where pest, mites and fungus flies, from my friends garden...ugh. Then, as you have already deducted, the coco started. Now, IMHO, Im not an incompetent. When I started my garden I started up a friends grow op to. All the exact same, so I thouhht. All clones I took! New growers tend to do what? more..PSP

 

[alexnalaskaOG]

Im limited text... new growers? Over watering...lol. Thanks to my wife finding icmag, and then my reading the other 1/2 of the coco story, life has gotten so much better. My plants are growing again...TY all.

 

[Ono Nadagin]

Heya Alex I am glad you two found us welcome aboard ICmag!

 

[gaiusmarius]

glad to hear your coco problems are a thing of the past alexnalaskaOG. once one gets the hang of it, then it's easy street.

 

[alexnalaskaOG]

Thanks for the warm welcome. The coco has proved a bit much w/all the strains I got. A lot of hand watering. Coconuts foliar feeding method sounds interesting, but alas I am about 4 weeks from the last of my coco mix. I went back to peat out of ease, and past experence. I have found that treated well the coco is very amazing stuff. I will use it again in the near future. I stay home a lot in the winter, so guess ill be a summer soil nut and a winter coco nut. Thinking on trying canna if i can get?

 

[bonecarver_OG]

alexnalaskan - i think im going to do the same this year soil outdoors in the countryside during summer and autumn - and coco indoors rest of the year

im going to take the clones for this summer this sunday - or the coming week

its gonna be fun !

 

[JackKerouac]

I did a search, but couldn't find who the Sri Lankan distributor of coco is for American Agritech. Boss Blocks are just relabled from this company.

It is somewhere in this thread, but I can't find it.

Somebody help me out!

 

[Ono Nadagin]

it is made in sri lanka for the isreali company that Bonecarver linked us.... that copany akes all of the coco products for american agritech/botanicare.
here ya go http://www.pelemix.com/

 

[JackKerouac]

I already gave you some K+, but thank you!

Their expanding seed starting cubes are pretty innovative and I wondered why no one has done anything like it before. They are also selling coco bricks with time release hydro fertilizer. Not to quote the Guinness commercial, but BRILLIANT!

The main reason I love coco is that it is truly sustainable, unlike peat, which is natural, but not sustainable.

 

[Ono Nadagin]

you can buy directly from them if you want.. pretty sure they ship stuff to the states


they also make some really cool coco pots that have neem added into them as a fert and a insecticide 100% narural one at that... really cool idea

 

[jimjay]

Got a ? fo the coco heads.I water 2x a day. I just switched to flower and my e.c.s are at 1.0 and by the time it is in the rez it is 0.7. I am starting to get the ramhorn type leave that curl down. Isn't that typically from too much N? If the pants are going from 1.0 to .7 inbetween waterings i wouldn't think i was over doing anything. So what could cause this? lock out?
pH is staying suprisingly stable at 6.0

 

[Bongojaz]

I water 2x a day. I just switched to flower and my e.c.s are at 1.0 and by the time it is in the rez it is 0.7. I am starting to get the ramhorn type leave that curl down. Isn't that typically from too much N? If the pants are going from 1.0 to .7 inbetween waterings i wouldn't think i was over doing anything. So what could cause this? lock out?
pH is staying suprisingly stable at 6.0

i don't know how you lose ppm's just by putting it in the rez, that sounds strange. sounds like you're describing the claw. i was growing a sat. that did that. too high ppm's and a ph issue caused that. when your ppm falls like that, it's caused by the plant absorbing the n-p-k.

 

[jimjay]

Bongojaz- Yeah def. the claw. lol .
Sorry i didn't make it clear but that is what the e.c.s fall to after being watered.
So the plants are using alot of nutes, the thing i can't figure out is why they would get "the claw" if they aren't getting over ferted?

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i told ya guys pelemix is really doing some interesting research im definetly keeping my eyes on them

 

[gaiusmarius]

your plants are way under fed jimjay, in flowering you need to be giving them ec 1.5 at least. an imbalance in the coco can cause very similar symptoms be it due to lock out because of over availability or due to a unavailability of the nutes them selves. pics and return ec would help. but i'm sure it's the ec, very few plants can prosper in 12/12 with ec 1.0.

 

[jimjay]

I will get pics. I think you are correct about being under fed because the return is .7. I water 2x a day 1 min each time. The only reason i thought it was over feeding was because i have been told the claw is from over ferting.

 

[Bongojaz]

hey jim, i'd drop that ph a bit. i do 5.8 in der coco....

 

[JackKerouac]

With CNS17, I am getting an excess of N over 6.0 and a lack of magnesium under 5.7-5.8 depending on the strain. I am running Neville's Haze, C99 x LSD, and Minigun right now.

I love the 1-part, but man, I either have to water every day, or have a buffer like pyrosol.

 

[Ono Nadagin]

My plants are loving CNS17 I just keep feeding mine @5.8~~~ RO water, cal/mag+, CNS17, LK, Superthrive and they have never slowed down. The only time I have had an issue with coco was when I got busy and forgot to hand water one day... a couple drooped on me as they and the coco dried out... since the coco had dried otu I wa a tad worried so I drenched the few that dried out with plain ro water w/cal/mag PH'd to 5.5... each plant had a gallon run through it... a couple of hours later you could not tell anything had happend to the plants except for a few of the botton sun leaves showed signs of N starvation