Umm, this looks bad, help please

[persianp]

So i transplanted these...






...about 6 days into a 5/3/2 peat perl cast ... hit up with b1 abd liquid karma... ammendments 2tbl dolo lime, 2 tbl blood meal 1tbl each of kelp, greensand, bone meal per gallon...mixed it up, but didn't let it sit, as i was frantic to get them into the ground....and now, they look like this:






but this one that i didnt transplant is exhibiting the same features, so maybe not the transplant folly?



... is this due to the high heat...over 100 ... of my area or is it a nute thing,,,should i get them out of the ground, or merely water them more?

thanks for the replies

 

[sproutco]

Sounds like too many salts. Maybe try using only dolomite lime and no other amendments like blood meal, etc... for your soil. Then, add ph balanced fertilizer water containing nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, sulfur, iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, and molybdenum. This gives you alot more control of what the plants are being fed. I think I would remove the offensive soil from the roots and start over. Use straight water when you first transplant. Then feed 3 or 4 days later. Plants in the containers may need watering everyday, depending on how root bound they are, in 100 degree weather. Hope this is a good enough answer cause I am stoned right now.

 

[Guest]

the one that wasnt transplanted is probably exhibiting different signs that just resemble the others a little.. that looks like minor deficiency..

the others i would attribute to a bad soil mix, and transplant, probably a whack PH (did you test?)

 

[persianp]

the lorax
No, i didnt test...the wack ph could be since i didnt let anything sit...

sproutco

the mix has been excellent up until i didnt allow the proper time of mixing up i got it from the organi forums from lc and opt1983...

I'll probably end up digging them up...will this hurt tem further?

some of the plants, namely the dried up one exhibited this before all the death calls

 

[turtle power]

Im not familiar with those products u use, but it could be to heavy ..... Its better to use low-fert soil around the plants when u transplant them... Let them adjust... Then they can grow into newer soil...

did u water well enough? It takes a while till the roots reach the more moist layer deeper in the ground

 

[sproutco]

If you are able to water them possibly daily and safely, then I would put them all in larger containers and not deal with the native soil. You could try and camoflage them from helicopters by using brush, piles of leaves, etc...

 

[persianp]

They're not really in the native soils...i completley filled the 30gal sized holes with the mix i was using, which includes peat and what not...but i am getting them out, most defintley

maybe i didnt water enough...i dont know it was every few days, no more than 3...

 

[sproutco]

Always use straight water to water in after transplanting. This settles the soil around the roots. You especially want to water well if you are adding alot of dry ingredients like lime, etc... Too many salts in the soil, possibly concentrated because of dry soil, will actually pull water from the plant. The plant and soil try to become like each other/try to reach an equilibrium.

 

[persianp]

that makes total sense...fucked

 

[SCF]

ya looks like you fried them with nitrogen. Blood meal'

 

[glock23]

sounds like you fried em with everything...far too strong a feeding for right after a transplant! you definitely wanna give em a heavy watering with weak or no nutes after putting them in the ground. you live and learn though. i lost a 9 footer to overferting this year...

 

[persianp]

yea, i fucked up, but im a youngin in the growing world, i admit i am ignorant, but the only way to learn is to fuck up and learn not to do it again...experience takes a while to build, but i'll get there.

I pulled them out of the ground and put them in 5 gallon pots of happy frog for no...three of the root balls were pretty okay, 1 was pretty fucked, so im going to flush them and see where that takes me

 

[sproutco]

I don't know what happy frog is. Sounds like something good though. If there is no dolomite lime in the new soil, you should make sure to add calcium and magnesium in your fertilizer water. If calcium and magnesium are needed you can add to your reg. fert. 1/4 teaspoon epsom salts + 1/4 gypsum per gallon of water. I think your plants will probably grow faster in their new pots with extra aeration rather than being in the ground. Make sure to keep them watered when the roots begin to fill the pot. During the summer with the plants rootbound, you may end up watering every day or every day and a half. Good luck and keep us posted about your progress.

 

[persianp]

Thanks, the soil has dolo in it...one of the plants is pretty much out of hope, got burned up good, but i've had plants come out of worse...what i did was mix the soil i had mixed up with the native soil and wet it down, im going to take a ph reading in a couple of days...but the other 3 are much happier out of the ground...so we'll see whether or not the soil ph is any good

Also sproutco, i read your post on pre-made concentrates and whatnot, it's a very informative read.

 

[HydroManiac]

Dump the soil go hydro lol!


HM