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Ukrul, Naga Highlands, Manipur State - Real Seed Company

musigny23

Well-known member
I tried a few "landrace" types this season. A few were very slow to clearly sex. I had a RSC Manipur (from Imphal Valley) but the female I got fully hermed shortly into flowering. That was a both a surprise and disappointing but it's something that can happen. While I can guess and speculate on why, it isn't possible to know for sure even though it would be helpful in the future.

Knowing very little about this type I put it in a corner of the garden. I like to grow a type at least once to get a sense of it before devoting more significant resources to it.

It ended up in a cloth pot on soil because it was late declaring and other spots were taken. It showed early on that it was a very branchy tall "sativa" type. Narrow leaflets and long thin stems.

It really took it's time to flower. The slowest to flower I've ever seen. I can't be sure if that is typical or in some way caused by the conditions here. I'm sure long flowering is normal but maybe some aspect of conditions here made it even slower and longer.

This season has been a challenging one for many reasons but I've been very lucky as far as this plant goes because there has been almost no rain yet and normally there would have been a few very heavy rain events by now.

We are nearly at the shortest days of the year and it's been sunny blue sky days for weeks. The only real adverse condition has been cold nights that get down to about 4° C every night. Those cold temps have turned it very purple and probably locked out nutrients so the flowers aren't big and heavy.

Recently I took to warming the water for watering to help the soil biology. It did seem to help. Also for a few hours in the afternoon the sun warms things up to about 18° C which also seems to help.

The smell is of red fruity chewing gum and their are no signs of any botrytis at all. Looking forward to how it smokes.

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musigny23

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I really don't know if I could do better with this in the future. In the ground would be better of course but when we get into November here even if we have no 0° temps, the averages drop to the point where plant flowering slows way down and soil biology is barely active.
I'm going to try again next year and also with the Imphal valley Manipurs.
 

meizzwang

Member
beautiful plant and well done musigny23!

I grew out Ukhrul and had two phenos: this early one finished maybe end of November(?). It had a delicious mango-aroma to it...I think, it's been a while, so I don't remember exactly. The high was nice, but rather weak and you really had to smoke a lot to get any effects, even after a long cure. Getting rosin and hash was difficult due to relatively low resin production. I decided not to take this line any further:
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Then there was the monster sized, super long flowering pheno that didn't finish until early February in the pacific northwest. However, since it was rained on almost daily for about 2 months, it eventually got botrytis near the end, I decided to compost it. Any modern hybrid couldn't stand more than a week of that weather without botrytis, so needless to say, this strain is incredibly rot resistant:
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Manipuri is very special, looking forward to your reports in the future! The one I had was quite powerful, and the buds not only taste great, but are surprisingly very smooth/light when organically grown and cured properly.
 

musigny23

Well-known member
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I can't imagine a plant flowering all through winter to February. And was it germinated in the spring? Late March/early April? That's a really long life span, nearly a year!

This is the longest growing plant I've ever had and it's only doing ok now because the rains haven't started yet. A very late season that actually isn't a good thing.

While it might go a bit further I will probably take it this week. I don't see much upside coming and it's slowly fading.

This plants has many long thin branches, numerous bud sites, but small flowers. After drying many will be tiny. I'm not sure if it is the pheno or having been in a cloth pot or what exactly that accounts for the flowers being small. They're small enough that the thin stems can hold them up with no bending down.

The smell is appealing and would seem to indicate some potency but I'll have to wait and see. I hope so after this long wait.

Here's a photo of a branch tip bud from two days ago. Some nice resin crystal in the original photo which can still be seen here despite the reduction in resolution from posting. A few fresh white pistils still coming out but the pace is so slow it seems the plant will age and decline overall faster than the flowers will fill out.

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Cactus Wes

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I can't imagine a plant flowering all through winter to February. And was it germinated in the spring? Late March/early April? That's a really long life span, nearly a year!

This is the longest growing plant I've ever had and it's only doing ok now because the rains haven't started yet. A very late season that actually isn't a good thing.

While it might go a bit further I will probably take it this week. I don't see much upside coming and it's slowly fading.

This plants has many long thin branches, numerous bud sites, but small flowers. After drying many will be tiny. I'm not sure if it is the pheno or having been in a cloth pot or what exactly that accounts for the flowers being small. They're small enough that the thin stems can hold them up with no bending down.

The smell is appealing and would seem to indicate some potency but I'll have to wait and see. I hope so after this long wait.

Here's a photo of a branch tip bud from two days ago. Some nice resin crystal in the original photo which can still be seen here despite the reduction in resolution from posting. A few fresh white pistils still coming out but the pace is so slow it seems the plant will age and decline overall faster than the flowers will fill out.

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Wow, it's so pretty.
I wonder what it would look like grown indoor.
I bought some Eastern Manipur-Burma Border Domesticated Landrace Seeds from the indian landrace exchange and am looking for info or threads on it and keep finding Manipuri, and wow is Manipuri ever a beautiful bouquet.?
 
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This is a great thread, I've always wondered about those two strains. There isn't a lot of info about them. I had my eye on Ukhrul for quite a while. But from the looks of it it doesn't seem quite that fantastic. I'm not in the US but my climate is vaguely similar to the Pacific Northwest although a tad bit more continental. Anyway for the outdoor, these strains seem to be a no go given their marathon flowering duration. It's kind of hilarious when Meizzang call "early" the one that finishes end of November :grin: !
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Most likely for the outdoor they need at the very least a warmer Mediterrannean-like climate or possibly as suggested indoor provided you had enough space.
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bleepboop

Active member
Ukhrul in a short tent.

Similar pheno to Meizzwang in that it's wispy with a mango odour. Extensive reflowering encouraged to bulk it up a bit and resin seemed much better on the foxtails after its early days were likely a bit stressful. I have a cut of it and it is sexually stable so I can run it again.

Small amount of seeds at different points throughout flowering from:
High voltage f3 (acg99 x PPP)
Tirah F1

Lots of vigour. Vinelike and easy to train.
Finished up in 2G airpot with blumats, some knf bits and recycled soil full of symphalans.

I still have seeds for Ukhrul and both Manipuri accessions to try at a later date. Good practice to try something that takes a bit longer.

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musigny23

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hi Musigny23[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This is a great thread, I've always wondered about those two strains. There isn't a lot of info about them. I had my eye on Ukhrul for quite a while. But from the looks of it it doesn't seem quite that fantastic. I'm not in the US but my climate is vaguely similar to the Pacific Northwest although a tad bit more continental. Anyway for the outdoor, these strains seem to be a no go given their marathon flowering duration. It's kind of hilarious when Meizzang call "early" the one that finishes end of November :grin: !
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Most likely for the outdoor they need at the very least a warmer Mediterrannean-like climate or possibly as suggested indoor provided you had enough space.
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Well the thing about a type like Ukrul is that you can't determine a lot about it from single female. In the Naga highlands this type is grown in fields by the thousands and the harvest combines them so both the best and worst are blended into the final product.

For western hobby growers, it might be impractical to grow the number of plants needed to find the desirable phenos. But that's also true of most domesticated "landrace" types. That's the main difficulty for small scale growers interested in them and a reason to seek out selectively bred versions.

The central California coast qualifies as a Mediterranean climate but even here by November the days have shortened to just under 10 hours and average temps have dropped. Clear sunny skies that can warm the afternoons mean colder nights due to no clouds to retain the heat of the day.
 
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