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http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UK_government_to_spy_on_phone,_email,_browsing,_of_entire_population
pretty fcked, hopefully this doesnt happen
pretty fcked, hopefully this doesnt happen
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Quote --"Under the UK's current law a warrant is required to intercept communications, but that will change with the implementation of the new database."
they soon will have our words we type, but the Q is will a proxy still keep our identitys safe?
they soon will have our words we type, but the Q is will a proxy still keep our identitys safe?
thats plain fucked up. what is the world coming to when we have to be careful of what we are saying to our real friends because we are worried the govt will see it.
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEIR GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF ITS PEOPLE!!!
^^^ truer words have never been spoken.
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEIR GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF ITS PEOPLE!!!
^^^ truer words have never been spoken.
It's an idle threat to make people scared.
If they implemented this kind of invasion of privacy with the terrible history of leaking *secret* information, no company would ever trade with the UK again. The stock markets wouldn't trust them, the companies wouldn't be able to use the internet to send private company information and banks would just close down.
Wait a few weeks and Gordon Brown will say, "vote labour and I'll make sure this won't go through".
It's just the stupid politics games baby!
If they implemented this kind of invasion of privacy with the terrible history of leaking *secret* information, no company would ever trade with the UK again. The stock markets wouldn't trust them, the companies wouldn't be able to use the internet to send private company information and banks would just close down.
Wait a few weeks and Gordon Brown will say, "vote labour and I'll make sure this won't go through".
It's just the stupid politics games baby!
GrassRoots
Active member
Pasted for those who don't like to click links:
The government of the United Kingdom leaked its plans yesterday to launch a program which will monitor every British citizen's emails, internet browsing records, and telephone conversations. While a specific plan has not been reached, UK ministers agreed on spending up to £12 billion (USD$21.2 billion) on the new spying system. More than £1 billion (USD$1.76 billion) has already been spent.
They believe the program, which will create a massive database for storing the information and installs thousands of probes, is necessary to fight threats to national security. One of the reasons cited for creating the database is to keep links between terrorists intact before they are wiped from systems, which often hold any needed information only temporarily.
Under the UK's current law a warrant is required to intercept communications, but that will change with the implementation of the new database.
Critics like Michael Parker, an anti-ID card activist, have called the proposal 'sinister', and accused the UK government of 'stalking' British citizens. "If an individual carried out this sort of snooping," Parker said, "it would be a crime".
But other critics like Dominic Grieve, Shadow Home Secretary, have a different concern. The government has a record of leaking sensitive information, making such a database insecure—which could be dangerous in the wrong hands. "Seeing how significant an increase in power this would be, we need to have a national debate and the Government would have to justify its need," he finished.
A public debate is being considered after the request of the UK's Information Commissioner, who has warned that the program would be unacceptable to most of the UK's citizens.
Details will be given in the Queen's speech next month.
The government of the United Kingdom leaked its plans yesterday to launch a program which will monitor every British citizen's emails, internet browsing records, and telephone conversations. While a specific plan has not been reached, UK ministers agreed on spending up to £12 billion (USD$21.2 billion) on the new spying system. More than £1 billion (USD$1.76 billion) has already been spent.
They believe the program, which will create a massive database for storing the information and installs thousands of probes, is necessary to fight threats to national security. One of the reasons cited for creating the database is to keep links between terrorists intact before they are wiped from systems, which often hold any needed information only temporarily.
Under the UK's current law a warrant is required to intercept communications, but that will change with the implementation of the new database.
Critics like Michael Parker, an anti-ID card activist, have called the proposal 'sinister', and accused the UK government of 'stalking' British citizens. "If an individual carried out this sort of snooping," Parker said, "it would be a crime".
But other critics like Dominic Grieve, Shadow Home Secretary, have a different concern. The government has a record of leaking sensitive information, making such a database insecure—which could be dangerous in the wrong hands. "Seeing how significant an increase in power this would be, we need to have a national debate and the Government would have to justify its need," he finished.
A public debate is being considered after the request of the UK's Information Commissioner, who has warned that the program would be unacceptable to most of the UK's citizens.
Details will be given in the Queen's speech next month.
m@rg said:
More than likely not unless you use a linux distro that allows you to spoof your IP address. Safe proxies are most likely going to be in a foreign country - you'll still have your identifiable traffic between you and the router that will hop to that proxy. Right now, you're not as safe as you'd like to think using a proxy for that same reason. The proxy will only hide your IP on the destination side of the proxy server. If you were posting on a pot site in the US, for example, a proxy would work to hide your IP address if that server was seized by the fed. They wouldn't be able to see where it actually came from. But if your government were tracking it already, you wouldn't be able to hide behind anything because they'll be monitoring the routers between you and the proxy. Sorry to be redundant, just trying to make sense and I find that hard to do sometimes.
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m@rg said:Quote --"Under the UK's current law a warrant is required to intercept communications, but that will change with the implementation of the new database."
they soon will have our words we type, but the Q is will a proxy still keep our identitys safe?
No proxy's are not safe at all man, if they want ya they will get ya, look at the mass censorship in china of sites such as youtube, your computer runs on THEIR system.
Fucken sucks man.
