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Hiddenjems

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so it's a matter of degree, is it doc?
I had a measles vaccine as a child. I was exposed to measles 20+ years later several times, vaccine worked, I never caught measles.

I had chicken pox as a child, my natural immunity continues to protect me.

You’re a chicken little. It’s part of the feminization of our society. Have your testosterone checked, really.
 

zachrockbadenof

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I had a measles vaccine as a child. I was exposed to measles 20+ years later several times, vaccine worked, I never caught measles.

I had chicken pox as a child, my natural immunity continues to protect me.

You’re a chicken little. It’s part of the feminization of our society. Have your testosterone checked, really.
he got his testosterone checked.... it registered a big...ZERO
 

nepalnt21

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You’re a chicken little. It’s part of the feminization of our society. Have your testosterone checked, really.
there is so much stupid here, it's amazing.

it's "feminine" to not want people to die? to not want my kids to have potentially life- long consequences from a childhood infection or some unknown shit?

what's it like to be so myopic?

also:

you do know different viruses are... different, right?

illegal immigrants killing Americans?
speaking of statistics, how serious of a problem is this?


appeal to authority fallacy.
you once again show you don't know what this means.

 

Hiddenjems

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there is so much stupid here, it's amazing.

it's "feminine" to not want people to die? to not want my kids to have potentially life- long consequences from a childhood infection or some unknown shit?

what's it like to be so myopic?

also:

you do know different viruses are... different, right?


speaking of statistics, how serious of a problem is this?



you once again show you don't know what this means.

An appeal to authority is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone accepts a claim as true because an authority figure says it is.
 

zachrockbadenof

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certainly not your college degree, just sayin...

i mean at what point does a vaccine become a vaccine? when the immunity doesn't wane for what, two years plus?
i think a vaccine becomes a vaccine when it offers long term protection from the ailment. polio does, chicken pox, and i guess some others...

when covid came out, it was called a vaccine... it is not.... its a shot, like a flu shot and some others... it took some time, but finally most of the public realizes that... i doubt that the current shot has more then a 20pct participation, maybe less...

ohhh n u are rite no college degree...
 

Hiddenjems

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Here is the pre Covid vaccine definition.

I know you denied it was changed. But now you’ll say it was just improved.


1. any preparation of weakened or killed bacteria or viruses introduced into the body to prevent a disease by stimulating antibodies against it.
2. the virus of cowpox, used in vaccination, obtained from pox vesicles of a cow or person.
3. a software program that helps to protect against computer viruses.

[1800–05; < New Latin (variolae)vaccīnae cowpox = vacc(a) cow + -īnae, feminine pl. of -īnus -ine]

Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary

 

moose eater

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No victim no crime would fix that.

Instead we’re a nation of hypocrites that are perfectly happy to see unjust laws used against folks they don’t like.
I think you're leaving out the influence of three-strikes laws, especially when misapplied to minor or petty infractions; as an example, those who had 2 strikes and go to prison for life over stealing a pizza or less to eat. It's happened, and way more than once.

There are also contrasts to be made between our country's sentencing for some crimes, versus other developed industrialized countries' crimes and comparative sentencing.

There's much more at play in this issue than merely going after victimless crimes.

Many countries have victimless crimes, but don't come even close to matching our numbers of incarcerated people.
 

nepalnt21

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it was called a vaccine... it is not.... its a shot, like a flu shot and some others...
it's a vaccine... in the form of a shot.

different viruses, different people, etc... different levels and lengths of protection.

there isn't some magical helpfulness hump a vaccine has to hop over in order to be named a vaccine.


2. the virus of cowpox, used in vaccination, obtained from pox vesicles of a cow or person.
remember when i asked you

1) does the cdc have a monopoly on medical definitions?

and

2) do we still poke ourselves with cowpox- dipped- needles to vaccinate ourselves against smallpox?

medical technology changes, medical terminology gets updated.

this is a giant, silly red- herring y'all are stuck on.
 

Hiddenjems

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I think you're leaving out the influence of three-strikes laws, especially when misapplied to minor or petty infractions; as an example, those who had 2 strikes and go to prison for life over stealing a pizza or less to eat. It's happened, and way more than once.

There are also contrasts to be made between our country's sentencing for some crimes, versus other developed industrialized countries' crimes and comparative sentencing.

There's much more at play in this issue than merely going after victimless crimes.

Many countries have victimless crimes, but don't come even close to matching our numbers of incarcerated people.
Have you ever read biblical law? According to the Bible it takes at least 2 eyewitness to convict a person. Also, their law was based around reparations as much as punishment. Property crimes were dealt with in a way that placed making the victim whole over punishment.



A lot of it was horrible, but they had a few good ideas too.


3 strike rules and mandatory minimums are both wrong.

I’ve sat in a cell looking at 25+ over some plants. They searched my house illegally and tried to get a confession because they knew the warrant was bad. I beat the case the first hearing I had, 43 days after my arrest. Yes they were out to get me.

People that have never had the boot on their neck just don’t understand.
 

buzzmobile

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I had chicken pox as a child, my natural immunity continues to protect me.
May it ever be so.

How can I get shingles? After having chickenpox, the virus stays in the nerve cells of your body but is not active. Shingles occurs when the virus becomes active again usually many years later. The virus may be reactivated by stress, illness, immunosuppression, older age, trauma and radiotherapy.
 

Captain Red Eye

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People that have never had the boot on their neck just don’t understand.

This makes a lot of sense.

Most political types are trained to ask government to put the boot on the neck of their opponent and then they trade back and forth whose neck the boot is on.

This is what happens when people don't understand rights-based principles and default to authority- based arbiters as being the final say. Of course, teaching rights-based principles has been phased out intentionally...by "authority". How convenient.

Also, I saw in another post you mentioned victimless crimes. Thanks for that too. It's an important concept that gets lost, misunderstood or intentionally buried in the political fray.
 

audiohi

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This makes a lot of sense.

Most political types are trained to ask government to put the boot on the neck of their opponent and then they trade back and forth whose neck the boot is on.

This is what happens when people don't understand rights-based principles and default to authority- based arbiters as being the final say. Of course, teaching rights-based principles has been phased out intentionally...by "authority". How convenient.

Also, I saw in another post you mentioned victimless crimes. Thanks for that too. It's an important concept that gets lost, misunderstood or intentionally buried in the political fray.

don't let him fool you.

he wants weed illegal again so that people have to face prison
 
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