Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[Microbeman]

So we keep this current system going for such a group. Meanwhile, allowing kids to make poor medical decisions based on something they don’t understand. Something even people like you and mustard can’t even explain

There is a good example of strawman. I never indicated nor hold the opinion you have stated, whatsoever. You are free to go back and read my 'words'. (maybe difficult for you)
You can even find my stated stance opposed to the socially generated trans trend in the dysphoria thread. Keep digging your hole.

 

[Microbeman]

Explain to me exactly how a person with this condition would develop breast tissue ?

I already did, with quotation. Go back and read.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

There is a good example of strawman. I never indicated nor hold the opinion you have stated, whatsoever. You are free to go back and read my 'words'. (maybe difficult for you)
You can even find my stated stance opposed to the socially generated trans trend in the dysphoria thread. Keep digging your hole.

You suggested these people may become victims of this new policy. So should we keep the same policy we have now to accommodate this small group ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

I already did, with quotation. Go back and read.

I’ve read this whole thread. If you did, you did a poor job explaining it. Where does the estrogen come from ?

 

[Microbeman]

You said pre and post surgery

This included all drugs deemed necessary. It makes more sense that if hormone blockers were used, that it would be pre-surgery.

Who thinks eastojoe loves arguing, rather than presenting a case?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

This included all drugs deemed necessary. It makes more sense that if hormone blockers were used, that it would be pre-surgery.

Who thinks eastojoe loves arguing, rather than presenting a case?

Which drugs specifically? I’m trying to understand your logic. This is your argument not mine

 

[Microbeman]

You suggested these people may become victims of this new policy. So should we keep the same policy we have now to accommodate this small group ?

No; whatever is written should accommodate these cases as well as other off-label uses. Look at the errors made with the sweeping abortion laws which some states have implemented.

 

[armedoldhippy]

If you had even glanced through the paper (using your best reading skills)

go back and read my 'words'. (maybe difficult for you)

I already did, with quotation. Go back and read.

you are trying to teach something which cannot be taught to a person born without the desire to learn. "LOOK! over THERE! it's ANOTHER windmill to attack..." a noble cause you champion, but lost, nonetheless.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

No; whatever is written should accommodate these cases as well as other off-label uses. Look at the errors made with the sweeping abortion laws which some states have implemented.

While I would not disagree with some states abortion laws , I do agree that if we want to fix this country, states right to choose needs to be fixed. It has its flaws but that’s how it was intended to be

 

[Microbeman]

Which drugs specifically? I’m trying to understand your logic. This is your argument not mine

As I previously indicated, the drugs used would be determined by the medical-surgical team involved. I do not profess to be learned in these particular cases, however I do now quite a lot about pre and post surgical pharmaceutical use.

I've got to get to work. Adios.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

you are trying to teach something which cannot be taught to a person born without the desire to learn. "LOOK! over THERE! it's ANOTHER windmill to attack..." a noble cause you champion, but lost, nonetheless.

Sounds like a pretty convenient excuse for someone who can’t explain their position. It should be easy to do with science if it’s science based yeah ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

As I previously indicated, the drugs used would be determined by the medical-surgical team involved. I do not profess to be learned in these particular cases, however I do now quite a lot about pre and post surgical pharmaceutical use.

I've got to get to work. Adios.

Exactly my point. You’re arguing something you don’t fully understand and can’t fully explain.

 

[nepalnt21]

Thats socialism in its purest form

it's the antithesis of socialism, dude it's a pure dictatorship

 

[Captain Red Eye]

it's the antithesis of socialism, dude it's a pure dictatorship

N. Korea is a pure dictatorship. People should not be forced into living under a dictatorship against their will.

Socialism, that envelopes people who didn't all individually agree to the socialism, is the same as the Dictatorship in the sense force or the threat of force for noncompliance is the underlying thing that holds it together.

I'm fine with people being social and being socialists, but if you have to force people who aren't fine with it to make a system work, it's really not much different than a dictatorship. That's one of the flaws of "democracy".

 

[nepalnt21]

like the "democratic" "people's" "republic" of north korea?

 

[Captain Red Eye]

like the "democratic" "people's" "republic" of north korea?

I'm unsure of your meaning. Could you please clarify?

 

[nepalnt21]

idk, i'm stoned... i was poking fun at how they call themselves those things, and with nary a sense of irony

 

[armedoldhippy]

That's one of the flaws of "democracy".

"democracy is the worst form of government except for all of the others." - Winston Churchill

but if you have to force people who aren't fine with it to make a system work, it's really not much different than a dictatorship..

oh, you're talking about preventing women and children from having options in their health care, and forcing kids to "learn" religion in school even if their parents object to it, and it being against our nations constitution. my bad... NOW i understand what you are saying.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

idk, i'm stoned... i was poking fun at how they call themselves those things, and with nary a sense of irony

Well then we agree...we're both stoned!

 

[eastcoastjoe]

"democracy is the worst form of government except for all of the others." - Winston Churchill

oh, you're talking about preventing women and children from having options in their health care, and forcing kids to "learn" religion in school even if their parents object to it, and it being against our nations constitution. my bad... NOW i understand what you are saying.

Not much different then less than 1% of the population forcing their twisted ideals on the rest of us. Seems legit though