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Sertaiz

funny. light humor.
i just would never work with them again as it doesnt sound like good life to me.
gang, yes, but gangs are for survival.

so i am just commenting on the slippery money slide.

once my friends lie to me, boldfaced, i am no longer their friends. or business partners, etc.

cell phone is getting trashed soon, so you wont hear from me, but if i were you and i had options id walk away from them for good, but i have no kids to feed.
 
Ringodoggie

Ringodoggie

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Just for the record, I said it first........ Canola Oil. Maybe soybean oil will place but I'm going with canola for the win.






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pharmco

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Future4200 said:
I wouldn't think anything that has beens said or done so far has been grounds for suit against EN
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Derek Afton, a sales rep, has been maintaining that TT is currently in the midst of readying legal action against EN, and that EN is in fact one of the competitors

They seem to have a lot of different stories.

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zanog

zanog

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Future4200 said:
I wouldn't think anything that has beens said or done so far has been grounds for suit against EN
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In the case that EN is gaining something, like market from TT or money for this "service" as a "malicious agent",that is grounds. This thread probably already hurt sales. So there is the intent and this thread would be the evidence if TT could prove their claim after all. Actually in time we will surely know. The samples will be tested in accredited labs by the firm etc, if their claim is false then they going to get an expert to testify. If there is no filing for months from now, then EN's claims were false ( chance for a settlement deal is almost none i think, this is not a local/state case, in the first "round" ). Shady lawyers might try something really illegal in this case... google Michael Avernatti in prison, but the existence of this thread makes sure that its cannot be done without consequences and they know that. That is why we only have to wait and see.


Can anyone help me with this then? : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=362659
 
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ExtractNinja

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zanog said:
In the case that EN is gaining something, like market from TT or money for this "service" as a "malicious agent",that is grounds. This thread probably already hurt sales. So there is the intent and this thread would be the evidence if TT could prove their claim after all. Actually in time we will surely know. The samples will be tested in accredited labs by the firm etc, if their claim is false then they going to get an expert to testify.
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Only thing I gained was education over this whole saga. And accredited labs have tested.

If there is no filing for months from now, then EN's claims were false ( chance for a settlement deal is almost none i think, this is not a local/state case, in the first "round" ). Shady lawyers might try something really illegal in this case... google Michael Avernatti in prison, but the existence of this thread makes sure that its cannot be done without consequences and they know that. That is why we only have to wait and see.
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I dont understand what you mean by my claims are false if they dont try to sue me.
 
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ExtractNinja

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pharmco said:
Derek Afton, a sales rep, has been maintaining that TT is currently in the midst of readying legal action against EN, and that EN is in fact one of the competitors

They seem to have a lot of different stories.

:laughing:
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Thanks for that guess its good to know who at TT is talking like that. Sad they still arent doing what they should do: PSA, recall, reimbursement, 3rd party audit and remediation plan. And instead wanting to sue me.
 
zanog

zanog

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I'll clear this up: So some lawyer already contacted about a class action suite as you stated before, that will happen eventually if the firm can prove it. If it will not happen in reasonable timeframe then the most probable becomes that you are the dishonest one (really no offense, I think you are right, but thinking and knowing are two things)
So if they sue TT there will be no room for settelments in that enviroment, so it will be public for anyone to see the papers. Other thing that can be done is: a lawyer goes there and says lets settle illegally... but this forum prevents that effectively so that would be a really dumb lawyer... That is why we will know.


If it turns out that you are the malicious one, that they will report you, but you can't be found so the thing will stop there. And you won and you are terrible. I really hope the first going to prove to be true.
 
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ExtractNinja

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zanog said:
I'll clear this up: So some lawyer already contacted about a class action suite as you stated before, that will happen eventually if the firm can prove it. If it will not happen in reasonable timeframe then the most probable becomes that you are the dishonest one (really no offense, I think you are right, but thinking and knowing are two things)
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I see OK. I wasnt contacted by a lawyer. Just a few people that mentioned they may be taking action. I know no more about it than that.

zanog said:
So if they sue TT there will be no room for settelments in that enviroment, so it will be public for anyone to see the papers. Other thing that can be done is: a lawyer goes there and says lets settle illegally... but this forum prevents that effectively so that would be a really dumb lawyer... That is why we will know.

If it turns out that you are the malicious one, that they will report you, but you can't be found so the thing will stop there. And you won and you are terrible. I really hope the first going to prove to be true.
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Ah OK know I see what you mean. Its already been proven im not the malicious one and not lying. TT has been proven to be the liar.
 
zanog

zanog

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If that is right then you did the right thing and society (the decent part of it) should be grateful. This case could be precedent for a lot of others in the future and probably bring new strict regulations. I think that is a great service to prevent this to happen altogether, other companies can simply do the same without it.
 
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dnb4ever

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Hey ExtractNinja, wanted to let you know that reddit does not work the same way as other forums, in that updating a thread you've made does not bump it to the top of the list. Once you've made a post, it will basically be gone from most people's pages within 24-48 hours.

If you want to make an update to a thread, you essentially need to start a new thread. This is often done by just doing something like "UPDATE:" and then your original thread title. You can then link to your previous thread so that people can easily find it and remember what you're talking about.

Fortunately (or unfortunately I should say, since now you won't get as much exposure), a moderator on the /r/cannabisextracts forum has already posted about this. I wouldn't let that discourage you from posting though.. maybe you can get it stickied due to the potential health ramifications.

Good luck man. Thanks for falling on your sword for us. You've gotten a lot of shit from people and were forced to sling it back. I can understand why... it would be super frustrating, even as a competitor, to have people blast you without even considering it to be the truth. As others have hinted, I definitely would recommend getting a lawyer because it is likely you will face a lawsuit. As you said, they can TRY to sue and they will probably not be successful for a number of reasons (if they can even find you, for one). But that won't matter... because they'll tie you up in legal bullshit anyway, and you will have to pay money for that (hopefully at the end you can get your money back, but that means even more bullshit). I guarantee they are going to try, so you should be prepared to defend yourself.
 
G.O. Joe

G.O. Joe

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ExtractNinja said:
Do you know of labs i should contact?
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All I wanted to get across was that cannabiz labs aren't going to work out, except for the no terpenes part. What you need is someone who can do more than email you an FID chromatogram and say here you go no terpenes. Did any lab suggest elemental analysis, or what it's going to take to figure this out? Elemental analysis is not expensive, and an absence of oxygen would rule out seed oil products, and in this particular case indicate petroleum distillates.
 
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Sertaiz

i dunno how this could be, if they go after ninja they dig their hole even deeper proving their guilt and really evil nature.

they should say, thanks for forcing us to better our product, anonymous person, and sell it as whatever their label says, but they should thank ninja, even if it boils their blood because that is the best outcome i can see for them. some will believe it, they will change, which they are already doing and life will go on.

if they go after him i see that being really degrading for society, to show that the people can be silenced even when they are right.

so up to you TT. let it go and lick your wounds, lesson learned or go after the whistleblower.
 
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