True Terpenes VISCOSITY extract liquifier LAB TESTS: Mineral oil but no terps!!

[Ringodoggie]

We may not be able to look into one another's hearts but for a long time, it was my job to determine guilt or innocence based upon whatever evidence was presented and all you have is..... beyond a reasonable doubt. Extract Ninja [IMO] has gone well beyond that.

Even when a person confesses to a crime, you're never really sure if he did it. People confess to crimes they did not commit, all the time. And, people who commit crimes will deny it to the death. So, sometimes, we have to reach into our own hearts and make a decision based upon what we know and feel. I did that for 14 years.

Certain things scream guilt. You come to recognize them after a while. Non-responsiveness is a big one. I wish I could look into the eyes of the people at TT.

I see Future has closed the thread at his site [until he and TT can come up with a cover story].

This entire thing stinks to high heaven.

Also, on a side note, I am taking bets and giving 10,000 to 1 odds that Future claims everything is inconclusive and TT will remain his cash cow on his site as if nothing happened. Place your bets.

Oh, and ExtractNinja... you owe me a bottle of scotch. LMAO

I guess GW is here to calm and I am here to incite. Yin and Yang make the universe go 'round.






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[Gray Wolf]

If you want to profit so badly you harm other people, you are a piece of shit. Full stop.
Lying to protect your own ass is something sociopaths do, not people. I want to thank Gray Wolf and EN for taking the time and effort to get these tested and posted. And Gray, you are way too optimistic bro. You give them the benefit of the doubt, when their own actions show they do not deserve that benefit.

And the truth is in there somewhere. During a professional lifetime under attack defending changes that I proposed, it became clear that I could be charged with anything, even if it wasn't true, and I often was.

If my opponents could be so wrong about my intent, could I be wrong about theirs?

When interviewed, Al Capone said, "I devoted my life to providing men with the lighter pleasures of life, and what do I get? An existence as a hunted man."

 

[AgentPothead]

And the truth is in there somewhere. During a professional lifetime under attack defending changes that I proposed, it became clear that I could be charged with anything, even if it wasn't true, and I often was.

If my opponents could be so wrong about my intent, could I be wrong about theirs?

When interviewed, Al Capone said, "I devoted my life to providing men with the lighter pleasures of life, and what do I get? An existence as a hunted man."

Al Capone was also a murderous piece of shit though. He has the blood of over 120 people on his hands, if not for murdering them, for giving the order. I mean, if we are comparing TT to Al Capone, I'm not sure we are too far off How many people did you give cancer to TT? The world may never know.

 

[RichardBone]

True Terpenes history of sketchy business practices makes it highly unlikely this was all an accident and with the latest information that has come to light it is now even sketchier with how Future is involved and locking the thread. It was spammy and shilly before it was only locked because of the most recent test results and trusted member Greywolf actually confirming it. It is 100% damage control and extreme bias because theyre friends. But what can you really do it is Futures forum he created and he can restrict it how he sees fit.

However, like the above member said the whole thing stinks to high heaven. Lets assume this is vegetable oil, what is the mark up? How many pockets can you line with that? How much kick back does Future get for sending business to True Terpenes?

I've tried True Terpenes and honestly their flavors are not bad and they're a popular company for a reason, people like their products. Its their shady behavior that is bad. Its the lying and trickery that is what is bad. These things are not coincidence, these things are not just chance. They've mislead the community with a product that is not "100% organic terpenes" They lied. They do not get the benefit of the doubt! If that is the case they should pull Viscosity until they can figure it out. But they will not because its a scam all along.

 

[Ringodoggie]

I agree that the fact that they are still selling Viscosity is sheer negligence. If I were prosecuting, I would call it 'criminal negligence'. And, their actions are 'reckless' [meaning they are aware that they are doing wrong].

IMO, they are setting themselves up for a giant lawsuit by continuing to sell this product even after it was publicly shown to be something other than what they claim. If they are getting legal advice and still selling this poison, they need a new lawyer. I expect it will be off their site very soon.

What 'sketchy' business practices are you referring to? My purchase with them was horrible with a total lack of customer service. However, that is not a crime. Just curious if there has been more






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[pharmco]

TT is supposedly readying legal action against EN/whatever party is behind this thread.

All I can say is none of this looks great for TT. Not convinced by their heavily guarded language.

 

[Future4200]

For the record, Floraplex, one of TTs primary competitors offers a significantly better discount than TT to the GLG, has better overall positive feedback, and is just as valuable an affiliate as TT.

The GLG trades all of its affiliates value in the form of social capital, marketing, exposure to industry professionals, aka members, no money involved.

Those members pay a fee to me, to join. The GLG is a legal corporation, pays taxes, employees a couple people, and uses those funds to host networking events and incorporate more affiliates to better offer value to the members.


This whole thing is a handshake deal with the affiliates, it comes with an agreement that you are going to be a good person(company). Ignorance is one thing, lying and deception is another.

The GLG works for its members, both ways. I closed the post temporarily on my forum because the system was flying endless spam flags at me, since EN clone force and the army of TT shills don't know how to behave

 

[Ringodoggie]

You're a pretty smooth talker. You might have been a good defense attorney. Let's all forget about True Terpenes and talk about Floraplex. LOL Nice redirection.

 

[Gry]

Dog 'em high,
dog 'em hard.

 

[pharmco]

For the record, Floraplex, one of TTs primary competitors offers a significantly better discount than TT to the GLG, has better overall positive feedback, and is just as valuable an affiliate as TT.

The GLG trades all of its affiliates value in the form of social capital, marketing, exposure to industry professionals, aka members, no money involved.

Those members pay a fee to me, to join. The GLG is a legal corporation, pays taxes, employees a couple people, and uses those funds to host networking events and incorporate more affiliates to better offer value to the members.


This whole thing is a handshake deal with the affiliates, it comes with an agreement that you are going to be a good person(company). Ignorance is one thing, lying and deception is another.

The GLG works for its members, both ways. I closed the post temporarily on my forum because the system was flying endless spam flags at me, since EN clone force and the army of TT shills don't know how to behave

Why on Earth are you talking about Floraplex? Misdirection

I do recall you saying if there was ANYTHING other than terpenes and terpenoids, TT had essentially lied to you personally.

How do you feel now? It's nice that you cannot lock this discussion.

 

[Future4200]

This whole thing is a handshake deal with the affiliates, it comes with an agreement that you are going to be a good person(company). Ignorance is one thing, lying and deception is another.

After I meet with TT face to face I'll have my answer.

This is basic conversational structure. Establish logical points, build upon them. Defending a lying company is bad for my model, here's the reason why. The illogical conclusion that I must be in the pocket of TT is an accusation I will defend against, because it is untrue and diametrically opposed to the model the GLG follows

 

[ExtractNinja]

TT is supposedly readying legal action against EN/whatever party is behind this thread.

All I can say is none of this looks great for TT. Not convinced by their heavily guarded language.

Hmm. Where did you hear that?


All I can say is uh-oh! They have had 5 months to sue me for being a whistleblower and telling the truth that the 3 labs told me. If that aint a COA (cover your ass) move nothing is. Instead of issuing a recall and reimbursing people they are trying to sue me. Classic!

 

[ExtractNinja]

I'm pressing my lab, I was supposed to get photos from them yesterday! Sorry!

So execited lets get to bottom of this!

 

[ExtractNinja]

After I meet with TT face to face I'll have my answer.

This is basic conversational structure. Establish logical points, build upon them. Defending a lying company is bad for my model, here's the reason why. The illogical conclusion that I must be in the pocket of TT is an accusation I will defend against, because it is untrue and diametrically opposed to the model the GLG follows

Simple questions:

- do you make more money when TT is part of your GLG thing? Yes/no?

- do you think some people pay to be GLG members in part because they know they have greater access to TT like at your Glg meet up things? Yes/no?

- can you comment on your claims in the post below as it relates to your post yesterday at the bottom? I ask because there seems to be a large disconnect about what you claimed a while ago vs what you claimed yesterday (when there is nowhere left for TT to run). You could prove your claims by showing us the purchase orders and manufacturing orders TT has for Viscosity.

Very interesting posts made by someone claiming he thought it was squalene

Future posted yesterday:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8577132&postcount=667

I was informed that viscosity is squalane by an anonymous source within TT, but was denied privy to the ingredients by all of the ownership.

You are supposed to unlock the TT thread at your site today. Im watching my clock.

 

[ExtractNinja]

I do recall you saying if there was ANYTHING other than terpenes and terpenoids, TT had essentially lied to you personally.

How do you feel now? It's nice that you cannot lock this discussion.

Id also like Future to answer this question.

 

[Future4200]

Simple questions:

- do you make more money when TT is part of your GLG thing? Yes/no?

- do you think some people pay to be GLG members in part because they know they have greater access to TT like at your Glg meet up things? Yes/no?

- can you comment on your claims in the post below as it relates to your post yesterday at the bottom? I ask because there seems to be a large disconnect about what you claimed a while ago vs what you claimed yesterday (when there is nowhere left for TT to run). You could prove your claims by showing us the purchase orders and manufacturing orders TT has for Viscosity.


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1. If TT is a company in good standing with the community and treats my people right, then yes, them being a part of the gang is a positive thing, increases memberships thus my financial earnings.

If TT is lying, or otherwise going against the morals and ethics of the gang, and I keep them in, then no that would be bad for business and I would make less money.

2. Absolutely people join to have better access to all the affiliates at meetups and otherwise, we encourage the members build relationships with the affiliates.

3. 30+ days have passed between those posts. I was unofficially informed by someone at TT, in passing conversation, not management or ownership, that it is squalane. TT did not confirm that, I don't know it to be true anymore than what I was told by said person.


Prove what claims? I will be absolutely stressing TT for all relevant information. Walking into my meeting with them now, will respond shortly and open the F42k thread back up.

EN, I encourage you to read the link I posted that details how the automatic spam filters on the site work

 

[GLGanonmember]

Much different tone with these new tests about how confident this man is that he knows whats in it.

Before it was I know whats in this! I saw the binders! The chain of command! Full audit! ISO certified! PHd! Lots of buzz words

now all the sudden it is

Oh I heard in passing from a homeless guy in an alley adjacent to TTs building that it was squalene

Before it was sooo confident now the back petal

I think the dishonesty spreads a bit further than TTs claims

 

[Ringodoggie]

Oh I heard in passing from a homeless guy in an alley adjacent to TTs building that it was squalene

ROTFLMAO

I think the dishonesty spreads a bit further than TTs claims

I couldn't agree more. Him standing up for TT without knowing the facts lost all credibility for his entire site and his club thing [IMO]


It might also be construed as him being an accomplice.







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[p0opstlnksal0t]

Hbno a company specializing in essential oils, far bigger than TT constantly does spot check GC-ms testing on various batches of their products. They supply these results at will to buyers. How come these companies in the Cannabis industry are so shady?

 

[Future4200]

Meeting with my connect at TT is adjourned.

Conclusion: TT is receiving a temporary suspension from the GLG for mislabeling the Viscosity as being 100% Terpenes, then instead of admitting error, changing the labels in what looks suspiciously like a cover up. The current labels are supposedly a more accurate representation of what the viscosity truly is, a blend of botanical extracts, which more closely reflects the results of what Gray Wolf found, but still leaves questions.


My suggestions to TT on how they might remediate this:

1. Offer a refund to anyone whom purchased Viscosity when it said "100% Terpenes"

This action would be enough for me to submit the idea of TT re affiliating with the GLG to a vote held within the Gang.

2. I strongly recommended to them, again, that they be transparent about the makeup of the product.

However, as I've stated before, I have no intention of blowing up their IP, I have no confirmation of what is actually in Viscosity, so use it, like anything else you might consume that doesn't have to tell you the ingredients, with caution.


Again, the biggest issue the GLG has with the situation is that TT was dishonest in labeling its product, hopefully they take the suggestion to right their wrongs to heart