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really nice looking girl bone!! 
thx for the pics
good smokes!!!
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thx for the pics
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Tropical Growing
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Indicas for Tropical Swamp Grow
Indicas for Tropical Swamp Grow
Hey all, I'm new here and I have really enjoyed reading bro Chaman's grow journal. I live in a rain forest at 5 degrees latitude pretty near the equator, and have been toying with the idea of trying to grow some of those famous genetics I keep reading about here and at other erb sites.
Poorly cultivated, sun-dried seedy weed is about all one can get our here, so the idea of growing a private stash of something exotically flavored like bubblegum, blueberry and California Orange has really caught my imagination. Matter of fact I've already tried once to get some beans for those strains, only to be confounded by the local post-office where mail theft is routine.
Anyways, my question is for both Chaman and PazVerde Radical, if he is still out there listening. I was amazed to read PazVerde's mention in an earlier post that he harvested some Cali Orange bud just 2 months after germination, in a climate similar to mine which has 12/12 hours day/night year-round with two main seasons of rain and dry, along with generally high humidity except during Decamber, Januiary and February. I was wondering if PazVerde planted that Cali Orange in the dry season to avoid mold, and I would also like to hear what month of the year he planted the Cali Bud to get such incredibly rapid growth to maturity.
Finally, and hoping my questions aren't too many for a newb, I sure would be grateful to hear from anyone growing in the tropics close to the equator where the climate is similar to mine, and who has tried any or all of the following strains outdoors : California Orange Bud, Bubblegum,Blueberry,Northern Lights and White Widow. I would like to hear about how the problems of mold and those cobweb-weaving spider mites were handled with those strains in that humid claimate, and how the quality of yield turned out in such a location where there is very little seasonal variation in the number of daylight hours to trigger flowering. Yield quantity is less important to me than quality, since my grow will be for strictly personal, non-commerical use.
Sure I know that sativas should do best in the tropics, but those fruit flavored sativa/indica hybrids have got me so intrigued I can almost taste them, and will definitely attempt another order when the omens are right.
My only available safe grow area is in a crocodile and leech-infested swamp. The planters cosnsist of vertical stacks of 4 old car tires, tied together and anchored to a stable, wide-footprint floating bamboo frame. Each tire stack is then 2/3 filled with coconut husk (to wick up water), and topped with a mixture of worm-cast black soil with cow dung as nutrient atop that continuously drawn water supply that also has drainage to let the soil breathe. I quickly found that the tire stack will sag or tip over if not securely anchored by tying to 3 deep planted poles all hugging the outside of the tire stack.
Borrowed and modified that idea from Breeder Brad's "Swamp Tubes" post over at the Cannabis Culture website in the outdoor grow section, and it works brilliantly. The soil is always damp but never muddy, and I have some local schwag seeds growing fine there with zero maintenance. Nonetheless I am still concerned that the location may be too humid for my intended crop of indica hybrid gentics.
Any opinions ?
Indicas for Tropical Swamp Grow
Hey all, I'm new here and I have really enjoyed reading bro Chaman's grow journal. I live in a rain forest at 5 degrees latitude pretty near the equator, and have been toying with the idea of trying to grow some of those famous genetics I keep reading about here and at other erb sites.
Poorly cultivated, sun-dried seedy weed is about all one can get our here, so the idea of growing a private stash of something exotically flavored like bubblegum, blueberry and California Orange has really caught my imagination. Matter of fact I've already tried once to get some beans for those strains, only to be confounded by the local post-office where mail theft is routine.
Anyways, my question is for both Chaman and PazVerde Radical, if he is still out there listening. I was amazed to read PazVerde's mention in an earlier post that he harvested some Cali Orange bud just 2 months after germination, in a climate similar to mine which has 12/12 hours day/night year-round with two main seasons of rain and dry, along with generally high humidity except during Decamber, Januiary and February. I was wondering if PazVerde planted that Cali Orange in the dry season to avoid mold, and I would also like to hear what month of the year he planted the Cali Bud to get such incredibly rapid growth to maturity.
Finally, and hoping my questions aren't too many for a newb, I sure would be grateful to hear from anyone growing in the tropics close to the equator where the climate is similar to mine, and who has tried any or all of the following strains outdoors : California Orange Bud, Bubblegum,Blueberry,Northern Lights and White Widow. I would like to hear about how the problems of mold and those cobweb-weaving spider mites were handled with those strains in that humid claimate, and how the quality of yield turned out in such a location where there is very little seasonal variation in the number of daylight hours to trigger flowering. Yield quantity is less important to me than quality, since my grow will be for strictly personal, non-commerical use.
Sure I know that sativas should do best in the tropics, but those fruit flavored sativa/indica hybrids have got me so intrigued I can almost taste them, and will definitely attempt another order when the omens are right.
My only available safe grow area is in a crocodile and leech-infested swamp. The planters cosnsist of vertical stacks of 4 old car tires, tied together and anchored to a stable, wide-footprint floating bamboo frame. Each tire stack is then 2/3 filled with coconut husk (to wick up water), and topped with a mixture of worm-cast black soil with cow dung as nutrient atop that continuously drawn water supply that also has drainage to let the soil breathe. I quickly found that the tire stack will sag or tip over if not securely anchored by tying to 3 deep planted poles all hugging the outside of the tire stack.
Borrowed and modified that idea from Breeder Brad's "Swamp Tubes" post over at the Cannabis Culture website in the outdoor grow section, and it works brilliantly. The soil is always damp but never muddy, and I have some local schwag seeds growing fine there with zero maintenance. Nonetheless I am still concerned that the location may be too humid for my intended crop of indica hybrid gentics.
Any opinions ?
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hello swamp thang, welcome. 
regarding indicas and indica dominant hybrids like cali-o-bud at my latitude:
they grow like freak plants for all of us, single cola plants, no where to take cuttings from, very short plants, 20-60cm. although i've gotten taller, about 1mts, a cali-o-bud male plant btw. anyway, these plants are pain in the ass because of mold and fungus, there's a white fungus that sticks to the stem and inside of the bud and it is sticky/foamy, i think it is brothythis or something, it sucks ass, can't smoke if you get that shit.
but, you can grow them safely if you guard them against rain and excessive humidity, but only way to do that outdoors is to grow in a green house or in pots somewhere where u can move the plants to avoid rain and maxmize sun exposure. etc...
if you make f2s the plants will grow better though, more branches, taller, better yields, but the quality of those hybrids compared to the sativas is just not there really... sativas taste real good btw
chaman has tons more experience with the indicans though, and i am sure he has some secrets may share with us
pato! saludos, se me habia olvidado que tan buen cultivador de pasto era hasta que vi otra vez sus fotos.
como anda la vibra en chile?
medjool, hope everything is irie, great looking plants !
_ ° O _
why did she make you chose? for real man, what is up with some women nowdays? they are such control freaks... if i had a wife and she started to give me shit about my plants, i would tell her to please be tolerant and silent and to go make me a sandwhich now 
chaman, you should go for it! don't take my advice please!
paz!
regarding indicas and indica dominant hybrids like cali-o-bud at my latitude:
they grow like freak plants for all of us, single cola plants, no where to take cuttings from, very short plants, 20-60cm. although i've gotten taller, about 1mts, a cali-o-bud male plant btw. anyway, these plants are pain in the ass because of mold and fungus, there's a white fungus that sticks to the stem and inside of the bud and it is sticky/foamy, i think it is brothythis or something, it sucks ass, can't smoke if you get that shit.
but, you can grow them safely if you guard them against rain and excessive humidity, but only way to do that outdoors is to grow in a green house or in pots somewhere where u can move the plants to avoid rain and maxmize sun exposure. etc...
if you make f2s the plants will grow better though, more branches, taller, better yields, but the quality of those hybrids compared to the sativas is just not there really... sativas taste real good btw
chaman has tons more experience with the indicans though, and i am sure he has some secrets may share with us
pato! saludos, se me habia olvidado que tan buen cultivador de pasto era hasta que vi otra vez sus fotos.
como anda la vibra en chile?medjool,
hope everything is irie, great looking plants ! _ ° O _
why did she make you chose? for real man, what is up with some women nowdays? they are such control freaks... if i had a wife and she started to give me shit about my plants, i would tell her to please be tolerant and silent and to go make me a sandwhich now chaman, you should go for it!
don't take my advice please!paz!
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Thank you for the reply PasVerde. Your words about fungus on indicas make me think a mostly unattended outdoor grow like mine would fare better as a pure sativa or sativa dominant strain than anything with that heavier indica bud density, since I'll probably never be around to pitch a tarp when a rain storm moves in.
My first and only previous grow attempt in this location was wiped out by brown bud rot and a swarm of spider mites whose cobwebbing ruined buds real quick, and that was a local pure sativa strain with light airy buds, so I can imagine an indica being spoilt a lot easier. Maybe sometime I'll try an experimental Cali Orange Bud grow to see what happens if planted at the onset of the dry season when the next rains are 4 months away.
That stunted growth and instant budding that you speak of with Indicas grown in your tropical area sounds odd, for I thought indicas might just grow lots of leaves and maybe never flower when planted near the equator. Then again, if the beans genetics were bred to flower at a set number of daylight hours I guess that could kick in right away, depending on the season in which they are sown.
Thanks again PazVerde. I got more to weigh up now before trying out any of those new grow ideas. Final quick question. I've read that a "tea" of old cigarette butts sprayed on the underside of leaves will get rid of those pesky spider mites from outdoor plants. Have you heard of this method of spider mite eradication, and if so how often would be safe to spray that stuff on the plant to get rid of them critters properly ?
My first and only previous grow attempt in this location was wiped out by brown bud rot and a swarm of spider mites whose cobwebbing ruined buds real quick, and that was a local pure sativa strain with light airy buds, so I can imagine an indica being spoilt a lot easier. Maybe sometime I'll try an experimental Cali Orange Bud grow to see what happens if planted at the onset of the dry season when the next rains are 4 months away.
That stunted growth and instant budding that you speak of with Indicas grown in your tropical area sounds odd, for I thought indicas might just grow lots of leaves and maybe never flower when planted near the equator. Then again, if the beans genetics were bred to flower at a set number of daylight hours I guess that could kick in right away, depending on the season in which they are sown.
Thanks again PazVerde. I got more to weigh up now before trying out any of those new grow ideas. Final quick question. I've read that a "tea" of old cigarette butts sprayed on the underside of leaves will get rid of those pesky spider mites from outdoor plants. Have you heard of this method of spider mite eradication, and if so how often would be safe to spray that stuff on the plant to get rid of them critters properly ?
hello swamp, the cigarette method is best if you use unused tabacco/cigarette as opposed used butts. i hear it works, i haven't tried it, it controls populations very well and might get rid of them too i was told. try to grow and make f2s of indicas you want to grow, perhaps you are able to, you know? i mean, if you can afford the beans and all... if not, maybe think getting some sativas that people around you have grown without a lot of complication. and keep on trying new stuff.
be well.
peace!
be well.
peace!
Spider Mites
Spider Mites
Roger that PazVerde. The cigarette tea has been described as being made with used cigatette butts as well as unsmoked cigarette tobacco as you have recommended. I'll try both when the time comes. Those spider mites are my main challenge here, as I think I can duck the bud rot by planting only in the dry season.
And with my limited Spanish, mucho gracisas.
Spider Mites
Roger that PazVerde. The cigarette tea has been described as being made with used cigatette butts as well as unsmoked cigarette tobacco as you have recommended. I'll try both when the time comes. Those spider mites are my main challenge here, as I think I can duck the bud rot by planting only in the dry season.
And with my limited Spanish, mucho gracisas.
JimmyEatWorld
Member
Swamp Thang,
Why used cigs ? That "cig tea" (soak 1 or 2 cigs in a bottle of tea) is toxic due to the nicotine (very toxic!). Used cigs would not have nicotine ...
Why used cigs ? That "cig tea" (soak 1 or 2 cigs in a bottle of tea) is toxic due to the nicotine (very toxic!). Used cigs would not have nicotine ...
Conjecture on my part, Jimmy. I read something about the cigs having to be used ones over at the Cannabis Culture website, but haven't tried either variant yet as my current plants are just getting going and still a ways off from attracting spider mites. When those little buggers do show up they wreak their damage to buds in just a few days.
I read too that cig tea with smoked cigs smells really foul, so if the nicotine content is also lower than unused cigs as you say then for sure I'll be using new cigarettes when I try the idea. Never heard of actual tea as an additive though. I thought the tobacco solution was the "tea".
I read too that cig tea with smoked cigs smells really foul, so if the nicotine content is also lower than unused cigs as you say then for sure I'll be using new cigarettes when I try the idea. Never heard of actual tea as an additive though. I thought the tobacco solution was the "tea".
Chaman I think I remember from the old days you were the guy with not only the gold and red but you had a strain called colombian creepy right?
We're having a colombian sativa discussion over at my thread and I was hopin if you got some free time you might tell us a little bit about it. that strain came up and you were the only one I thought I remembered having that strain.
if you want we're talking about it here
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=714583#post714583
but if you just want to talk about it here thats cool too.
We're having a colombian sativa discussion over at my thread and I was hopin if you got some free time you might tell us a little bit about it. that strain came up and you were the only one I thought I remembered having that strain.
if you want we're talking about it here
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=714583#post714583
but if you just want to talk about it here thats cool too.
JimmyEatWorld
Member
motaco,
Check out the page 4 here. I've posted the "Creeper Phenotype" description by RCC+down the page Chaman talks a bit about it. In case you haven't already see them
Check out the page 4 here. I've posted the "Creeper Phenotype" description by RCC+down the page Chaman talks a bit about it. In case you haven't already see them
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donde anda sr. chaman? espero todo irie
peace
donde anda sr. chaman? espero todo irie
peace
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bonecarver_OG
sñr chaman esta currando mucho
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bonecarver_OG
estan por aki . haz una busceada "search" para ver sus posts
Hi everyone, realy sorry about how the threads been going, just been kinda try to put alot of peaces back together after be'n shatered to millions...but hey jeje find'n it easier to smile these days and been keep'n my head up...given thanks agian too so hey i'll be post'n agian soon I hope, got many plants started, a few just sexed and about 2 in early flower so some pics soon I hope.
Thanks to those who have posted to keep the thread still alive.
Jah bless,
Cool & Calm
Chaman
Thanks to those who have posted to keep the thread still alive.
Jah bless,
Cool & Calm
Chaman
jah bless hermano chaman! es bueno verlo por estos lares de nuevo.
paz!
paz!
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bonecarver_OG
we keep it alive for ya buddy
and all the best wishes mate!
im looking forward to some huge trees hope u get a good season!
peace
and all the best wishes mate!
im looking forward to some huge trees
hope u get a good season!peace
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