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Trolls...

Payaso

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On the subject of trolls, there seems to be a lot of buzz in many circles regarding the phenomenon we have been struggling with for many years here at ICMag.com...

I read this article on the Guardian, and thought this might provoke some thoughtful discussion on the subject of trolling.

Two thousand, three hundred and ninety-three years ago, in 380BC, Plato wrote the myth of the Ring of Gyges, in which the shepherd, Gyges, discovers a ring that makes him invisible at will. He promptly uses the protection this offers to infiltrate the royal household, seduce the queen, assassinate the king and take the kingdom. Plato goes on: "If now there should be two such rings, and the just man should put on one and the unjust the other, no one could be found, it would seem, of such adamantine temper as to persevere in justice."

Plato felt that the protection of being unidentifiable could corrupt even the most morally upstanding person. After the week she has had, Caroline Criado-Perez might well sympathise with that bleak assessment. After she had successfully petitioned to have Jane Austen's image appear on the new £10 banknote, Twitter trolls used the anonymity of the internet to inundate her with threats of rape and violence.

It took another petition and a media storm to overcome the inertia that seems to exist when social networks and the police are asked to deal with online abuse. When MP Stella Creasy stepped in to support and defend Criado-Perez, the Twitter trolls began to target her too. And in the latest twist, several female journalists were sent bomb threats. So who are the trolls sending these messages? And what motivates them to behave like this?

The Gyges effect – the way that the internet can encourage a disinhibition people simply would not experience face to face – is only part of the explanation. Linked to that is the way the internet allows us to shut down our sense of empathy. In a nutshell, we are sending words through a screen, and seeing words come back. No tone of voice, facial expressions or body language. This makes it easy not only to pretend there isn't a real, emotional, possibly fragile human being at the other end, but also to play down any emotional reaction that they convey back as an exaggeration or a lie.

In fact, we're all capable of shutting off our empathy when it suits us. When someone we love to hate suffers some minor inconvenience or self-inflicted trouble, we can choose to enjoy their misfortune rather than feel sorry for them. The internet, however, drastically increases that ability, and allows us to emotionally divorce ourselves, not just from the people we don't like but also from those we don't even know. It is, after all, a rare person who hasn't written an online review, email or comment that was more abrasive than anything they would ever say in person.

But this still doesn't tell us why someone would do this. Many of us have internet access, yet few of us choose to troll. So what motivates those who do? One difficulty in trying to discover the motives behind socially unacceptable behaviour is that the individuals in question will usually be reticent or deceitful about their motives – even to themselves. Trolls are not often in a rush to discuss their behaviour with a stranger who might spill their darkest deeds to the world.

This is hardly surprising. There are potentially serious consequences to being outed as a troll, ranging from mere social stigma and relationship breakdowns to job losses and prison sentences. The result, however, for anyone trying to analyse and understand trolling, is that we're left to either investigate the few cases that have come to court or divine motives and intentions from the data the trolls provide. So, on review of both of these, what reasons suggest themselves?

One motive for trolling, and perhaps one we're all most familiar with, seems to be simple boredom – too much free time after school, at work, or between jobs. These are the individuals who are trolling to kill a few hours, entertain themselves, and even impress others of a similar mindset.

Groups of trolls coalesce on bulletin-board sites such as 4chan, where they post links to targets that might prove "fun", and compete with each other to see who can be the funniest, cleverest, or most extreme. Interestingly, those same sites also tend to be the powerhouses that generate internet "memes" – popular concepts that spread beyond the internet to become part of our offline culture.

A second motive appears to be a need for attention, a craving that will accept any kind of attention, however positive or negative, as long as that person is at the centre of it. Such individuals may not just post offensive messages, but also annoyingly implausible stories, grand claims, and obvious lies.

A third motive seems to involve a sense of disenfranchisement. In a climate where even graduates with good degrees are struggling to find jobs, and house prices make getting on the property ladder an impossible dream for many, it's little surprise that a selection of the population may consider themselves short-changed. It would take a strong character not to feel a sense of injustice at the fact that, a generation earlier, their exact counterparts were walking into secure, lifelong employment and able to buy nice homes.

For some individuals, this sense of being cheated may extend into pure epicaricacy, a malicious desire to try to make those enjoying greater success feel as miserably trapped and oppressed as themselves. The rather sad logic of this is that by dragging the more successful person down, the damaging contrast with their own failure is lessened, and they won't feel quite so bad about themselves.


Are they all angry young men, as the stereotype suggests? When we look over cases that have gone to court, we do find some evidence of this: Reece Messer, 17, who tweeted that Tom Daley had "let his dad down"; Matthew Woods, 19, who posted sick jokes on April Jones's tribute page; Reece Elliott, 24, who threatened to shoot 200 school children only weeks after the Sandy Hook incident; and Sean Duffy, 25, who posted offensive images on a Facebook memorial page. Here we have reports of the broken homes, substance abuse and/or social disabilities that are often linked with trolling, as though they were natural bedfellows.

However, when we look at further cases, we also find Colm Coss, 36, who defaced Jade Goody's memorial page; Frank Zimmerman, 60, who emailed threats to a range of public figures; Jessica Chantelle Cook, 22, who posted offensive comments on tribute pages; and teenager Jasmine Vanmidde, who lied about being a cyberbullying victim to get on to Australian TV show Today Tonight, then boasted of her success in a YouTube video.

This second group of individuals – young women, and men easily old enough to be fathers and grandfathers – don't readily fit the classic troll image. Our nice cat-loving neighbour, that funny work colleague, or the nerdy cousin we went to school with could just as easily be trolls too.

A final important issue that these cases raise is the lack of agreement over what the word "troll" means. It is being used to describe everything from playground insults, sick jokes, and deliberate insensitivity right through to threats of violence, rape and murder. We don't have a fixed definition for the term "trolling", and while some may think of this as a mere detail, it is one that can have far-reaching legal implications. If we are to take the meaning of trolling to include everything from the merely irritating to the clearly illegal, then this definitional issue will only become more important as more cases are prosecuted.

Despite the potential harm trolling can inflict on others, as long as the internet offers the appearance of protection from consequences, it will, for some, also present itself as an opportunity to kill a few hours by being abusive to strangers.

Of course, we could simply refuse to understand such behaviour, and even ignore it, but that offers little hope of stemming the tide. Instead, it seems both morally and logically better to face the problem head-on. This could take the form of training and education for those amenable to change, or convictions and prison terms for those who are not.

But perhaps most usefully, it might start with considering how much trolling is symptomatic of social injustice, economic disadvantage, and political disenfranchisement.


Claire Hardaker is a professor of linguistics at Lancaster University, who specialises in researching online aggression
 

norcal_sourD

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Indeed thought provoking. Tyvm for the post Payaso! My 2 cents can be summed up in an oft repeated phrase in current vernacular "Haters gon' hate".....
 

draztik

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In my opinion the author of the article fails to examine the use of mind control techniques by the social engineers to dictate reality through television, radio, newspapers, magazines, movies, and any other propaganda media outlet controlled by the ruling oligarch. They forgot to mention the bigger picture about how the global elite are manipulating the worlds economies and engaging in psychological warfare. It's PSYOPS, hi-tech scientific mental slavery to control the masses. It's come out in the press that governments and corporations like Monsanto have armies of paid internet trolls. Another variable not taken into account in the article is the amount of people on psychiatric drugs. The statistics in the US alone is 1 in every 5 adults are taking psychiatric drugs. Drugs with warnings like "may cause psychotic episodes" That along with the fact that most Americans are malnourished and overweight from eating GMO's and hardly ever exercise which has a huge effect on metal health which can cause behavioral problems. The average person is under chemical and psychological assault and does not realize their body is in survival mode in a very suggestible state of mind induced by television. The armies of paid trolls are being reinforced by an army of highly suggestible followers engaging in the same troll behavior. Ignorance just infecting the weak minded like a virus.
 

devilgoob

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A basically generic meaningless article written by squares, meant to educate the apparent oblivious masses that don't know what a troll is, and are waiting for a 20/20 or Dateline NBC to tell them what lurks inside technology's dark corners.

Of course, we could simply refuse to understand such behaviour, and even ignore it, but that offers little hope of stemming the tide. Instead, it seems both morally and logically better to face the problem head-on.

Really? So you want to fight a troll or change something?

The WHOLE entire effing point is them making you mad, you reacting, and you being a fool by letting yourself be manipulated.
 

Payaso

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Ahhh Yes you get it all of you!!!

Norcal says...Indeed thought provoking. Tyvm for the post Payaso! My 2 cents can be summed up in an oft repeated phrase in current vernacular "Haters gon' hate".....
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"Smash, smash, ....SUMAAASH"

Seems true that haters gonna hate... I've even seen it in other cultures besides here...

Draztik... I don't think they forgot anything... just that they were staying on topic with the original idea of the story. An editor would cut out all of that and explore it in another article...but your points are extremely valid.

backyardbogfan says
Or, some folks just have a tiny dick.
and that's off-topic!

Maybe... but who cares?

And I do grok the message from devilgoob who says this is
A basically generic meaningless article written by squares, meant to educate the apparent oblivious masses that don't know what a troll is, and are waiting for a 20/20 or Dateline NBC to tell them what lurks inside technology's dark corners.

But let's not get so passionate...but you do know the bottom line ideed :)

The WHOLE entire effing point is them making you mad, you reacting, and you being a fool by letting yourself be manipulated.

Thanks for thinking about this! The reason I bring it up is that there is really no place for trolls here on ICMag... let's keep it a nice place to hang out in peace making friends, getting high, and appreciating life :)
 
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SooperSmurph

The troll mentality is what holds our species back from ascension.

Every day, people who are utterly miserable in their daily life lash out in the only way they can, by slowing down someone else. It could be in traffic, the check-out line, or even an online game, but at some point they make the conscious choice to try and disrupt someone for no other reason than their ability to do so. Now, how does this relate to the progress of the human race? Add up all those wasted minutes, millions a day, for years and years, and imagine how much further along the human race might be if the slow and stupid were just to step out of the way of the people trying to help them.

Our species could be nearly immortal, exploring the stars and the depths of consciousness, but all the creativity, beauty and mystery in the universe isn't enough to make a miserable slob accelerate when a line of cars grows behind him, because he simply isn't smart enough to care about or even desire progress.
 

Space Toker

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this is so true my friend, so true indeed. too far out now to go into more detail but trust me, you make more sense than I!
 

Payaso

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Thank you SooperSmurph...

Imagine how this forum could be if there were no trolls!

I would have time to write more articles for the eMag...

We would all grow more cannabis!

And we'd all be having a way better time IMHO :)
 

MJPassion

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In a nutshell, we are sending words through a screen, and seeing words come back. No tone of voice, facial expressions or body language.
This can be said for any number of communication methods that are not voice to voice.
Verbal expressions have the ability elicit emotional nuances within a conversation as much as facial expressions do.

IMO, Trolls troll because they are attempting to get a reaction from a specific individual or a group of individuals.

Best way to stop the trolls, IMO, is to NOT feed them. If ignorance is bliss then ignore them to the best of your ability, lest you be drug down to their level.
 

Jericho Mile

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Trolls are necessary to the balance. Pretty soon...a difference in views..will be seen as trolling. Thin line.

Personally...I'd not like a world of just....fluffy agreement. Little lambs bah bah(ing) each other...because if they feel threatened..or if someone doesn't agree....they can call them trolls.
 

Payaso

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Thanks for chiming in Jericho Mile:
Trolls are necessary to the balance. Pretty soon...a difference in views..will be seen as trolling. Thin line.

Personally...I'd not like a world of just....fluffy agreement. Little lambs bah bah(ing) each other...because if they feel threatened..or if someone doesn't agree....they can call them trolls.
Personally I like a great discussion with all parties getting a chance to put forth their ideas, when that happens the synergy is amazing. A bunch of sheep grazing stupidly in a pasture is not what I envision...thsnks for reminding us of the flip side of the coin.
What I object to is the folks who butt in to only post negative comments about everything - that disrupts the energy flow that benefits everyone who is here to learn and communicate and enjoy life.

Whether a super troll, sad loner, or as R. Fortune says so eloquently:
Large forums have their share of weirdos and psychos, just like any backwoods amusement park.
- these folks shouldn't get a free pass to make everyone else miserable.
 

Fly by Night

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Can we get some names to watch out for?

Can we get some names to watch out for?

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