I trim the water or fan leafs off. also any leafs without resin glands.
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Trimming a fat scam!
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Did you have a trimming job that got outsouced? That's kind of what it sounds like to me.
I've employed dozens of trimmers, and I've also had the opportunity to use a twister trimmer.
Have you ever trimmed by hand? Do your scissors get gunky? You're ruining trichomes. Do your fingers get sticky? You've just rubbed off a bunch of trichomes.
The amount of handling that buds get during a manual manicuring is at LEAST as much as the twister machine. The buds roll through, instead of being pushed through by metal fingers.
i guess if you're just growing for personal smoke you think of it differently
rock on cash croppers and your kiefed bud, rock on people that like buying that stuff
i'll keep on trying to touch and handle mine as little as possible and lovin' the results, seriously comparing lightly trimmed bud to manhandled bare buds at the shops, apples and oranges
rock on cash croppers and your kiefed bud, rock on people that like buying that stuff
i'll keep on trying to touch and handle mine as little as possible and lovin' the results, seriously comparing lightly trimmed bud to manhandled bare buds at the shops, apples and oranges
Have you ever tried to trim a pound by hand? How about 10 pounds?
just for personal smoke here, the answer to that would be no
trichome covered bud > bare bud, just one man's opinion
took me a month t trim 5 pounds manually
but now i do,nt trim anymore
i just remove the leaves before smoking , this gives me the best taste and effect
a buddy of mine also has a trimming machine but i dont want my buds in that machine i saw how much resin it takes off
the buds still got me high and where tasty but it just dont feel right lol
We agree on that...my point is that it is neither realistic nor economical to trim large commercial crops by hand when a machine does just as good of a job...
If I set a pound in front of you with a pair of scissors, and ran a pound through a trimmer, I'd be done in a quarter of the time and I can damned near guarantee you wouldn't be able to tell the difference with a cursory glance. If you are buying buds from dispos that are beat to hell and missing every gland head on the exterior of the bud, I'd be willing to bet that you would find that lost resin sitting in a tray underneath a screen somewhere...
i don't trim too much either, i leave outer leaves on for the most part, when i pull that particular nug out of the jar to puff i then remove those outer leaves, i feel the leaves kind of protect the inner bud and it's shiny sugar coated goodness
good friends of mine do grow pounds, they hand trim but on purpose knock a ton of trichomes off into their kief tray, their bud before is always stronger than after
what do i know though, never grown anything that yielded a pound, or even 1/4 pound, just a noobie trying to learn, this noobie can spot the difference and it's drastic imho
i apologize about being an asshole and ranting, it just drive me nuts and was one of the big pushes to get me to start growing my own, so i guess i can thank the cash cropping bare bud slangers for motivating me to become more independent
i'm sure several of the shops do it too, i personally know growers that do it themselves but know others that do not. some manually trim and still knock the kief off into a screen like you mentioned.
man i have seen with my own eyes, $70 1/8 ogs and kushes in various shops, their "top shelf", and it's bare. the same shop has some slightly seeded $25 random "mendo haze" or something and it appears to have far more trichomes than their top shelf?!
olddirtybastard
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fuck buying from the shops, thats the moral of this thread.
GanjaPharma
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i think this thread (like most that start off this way) has turned into a "are trimming machines as good as hand trimming" debate.
the ops post insinuates that trimming machines suck extra trichomes off of the bud that is being trimmed. if trimming machines along with strong vacuum were used on dried buds i might see that...but i have yet to see a "dry" trimming machine.
trichs just dont fall off of fresh ganja very easily.
do this:
take a fresh fat 12" cola and bang it on a table for a few minutes (do not do this) and while the bud may be smushed and banged around....the glands are all still there. and on the subject of damage to FRESH ganja, one should look at the alternative, where does all that scissor hash come from? as far as other kinds of damage, i dont smoke ciggies, or have poor hygene, but i have seen some big trims, and the shit that goes on can be pretty unsanitary.
personally i hand trim. anyone i trust has there own trimming to do, so i do it on my own. i crop around 10-13 lbs per harvest and i spend an entire week, one plant at a time, harvesting, trimming, hanging. and my ganja has zero popcorn, if it even looks like tedious work, i hand strip that shit and dry it for oil. so i am only trimming hard fat nugs.
usually around day 3 when all i see when i close my eyes is ganja, and my back and shoulders are killing me...i gaze at my encrusted fingers and the my mind starts to drift onto the subject we are discussing here.
i have seen bud trimmed with the twister that looked AMAZING, sharp and clean cuts and if the buds are broken down properly the final product looked great. equivalent to hand trimming with the "blade parallel to the budline" method of hand trimming. which is the only hand trim you are gonna get for any commercial or large medical op.
i have seen bud that was done in other trimmers much less pricey trimmers, and some of it looked "bruised" dunno another word for it. the same way heavily handled fresh nugs look, a day after they were mauled. (plenty of trichs though)
for me the deal breaker is that i absolutely HATE the look of screen dried bud. i think that individual branches that are trimmed wet and hung to dry have an extra element of bag appeal. if i could run 3' branches of already big leafed colas through a twister type trimmer. then i would be SOLD.
jeesus i typed out a long one there^^
i shoulda just said "machines use fresh bud and thats why the trichs dont get sucked away, but screen drying does make the product look shitty"
the ops post insinuates that trimming machines suck extra trichomes off of the bud that is being trimmed. if trimming machines along with strong vacuum were used on dried buds i might see that...but i have yet to see a "dry" trimming machine.
trichs just dont fall off of fresh ganja very easily.
do this:
take a fresh fat 12" cola and bang it on a table for a few minutes (do not do this) and while the bud may be smushed and banged around....the glands are all still there. and on the subject of damage to FRESH ganja, one should look at the alternative, where does all that scissor hash come from? as far as other kinds of damage, i dont smoke ciggies, or have poor hygene, but i have seen some big trims, and the shit that goes on can be pretty unsanitary.
personally i hand trim. anyone i trust has there own trimming to do, so i do it on my own. i crop around 10-13 lbs per harvest and i spend an entire week, one plant at a time, harvesting, trimming, hanging. and my ganja has zero popcorn, if it even looks like tedious work, i hand strip that shit and dry it for oil. so i am only trimming hard fat nugs.
usually around day 3 when all i see when i close my eyes is ganja, and my back and shoulders are killing me...i gaze at my encrusted fingers and the my mind starts to drift onto the subject we are discussing here.
i have seen bud trimmed with the twister that looked AMAZING, sharp and clean cuts and if the buds are broken down properly the final product looked great. equivalent to hand trimming with the "blade parallel to the budline" method of hand trimming. which is the only hand trim you are gonna get for any commercial or large medical op.
i have seen bud that was done in other trimmers much less pricey trimmers, and some of it looked "bruised" dunno another word for it. the same way heavily handled fresh nugs look, a day after they were mauled. (plenty of trichs though)
for me the deal breaker is that i absolutely HATE the look of screen dried bud. i think that individual branches that are trimmed wet and hung to dry have an extra element of bag appeal. if i could run 3' branches of already big leafed colas through a twister type trimmer. then i would be SOLD.
jeesus i typed out a long one there^^
i shoulda just said "machines use fresh bud and thats why the trichs dont get sucked away, but screen drying does make the product look shitty"
Yes he does...
I think these machines will just further a market for boutique, 'hand trimmed' nuggets. Hand trimming will soon turn into a selling point.
No I gorw my own there for I dont trimm but only my buds. I dont need to waste my back and time for that stuff mannnnn!!!!Yes I work for a long time. I clean my scissors and and keep going! But I do only get so much on them. As im not trying to get them loaded there is that clear fluid that comes from fresh bud that gums up everything!
And not you can use the stem to hold on to the buds you dont grip them like a big fat gorilla
If your buds are devoid of trichomes, I think it has less to do with the trimming method, and more to do with less scrupulous sellers. I'd recommend, as some others have, your shopping elsewhere for your meds to see if you have better luck.
vaped
Active member
Wow It takes my old lady and I about 2 days not even full days to hand trim a pound. This is by hand all the way down to the nug we dont smoke leaf and wont sell it.
I have trimmed 15 lbs and it took about 2 months of 3 or less hours a day of trimming for 2 people!
Well I know it depends on the person and the tools. Also how smart you are about needing to take a break eat food or just sit in the right position to trim with no back pain. The most you will get is some hands from some hard work. I can trim an lb in less then a day so thats not much of a trial!
yeah take a fruit and bang it on the table fresh and wet and see they don't run wet off the plant buds through it and if they do they are still bruising the glands and this degrades the bad this isnt about hand vs machine this is about not getting screwed by other people trying to make an extra buck and how they are doing it and what to watch out for.
Please Load up some pic's of this bud you see I have some and will be posting them soon.
