transfering to 11 carboxy thc made EZ :)

[fieldgrower]

just thought i would share a method ive just come accross from a good buddy of mine. Let me just say this, ive never been too prone to edibles, as it usually takes quite a bit to get me well stoned,whether it be my method or not, this however showed me how potent cannabis edibles really can be by this simple extraction method, its actually alot easier than making cannabutter/oil...straining with cheese cloth and such. i will explain this extraction method step by step. vapor does wonders.

the tools you will need.

1. an oven bag
2. 2 oz's of frosty trim, or 1 oz. of buds
3. oven mits
4. rolling pin "not a steam roller! lol"



things you will need to kno before you start:
thc burns out at 325 degrees




fill your trim or buds in side of the oven bag you are using, make sure their is enough air in the bag to create a pillow effect, twist tie around the top. pre heat oven at 280 degrees, the pot MUST be complete dry, after this put the bag filled with your pot inside the oven for 20 minute to a half an hour. you are causing a chemical reaction with the weed, by about 25 minutes their is enough vapor in the bag to make you HEAD SPINNNN
grab your oven mits, get from oven and shake the bag a little bit and you will notice it start to get cloudy for about 2 seconds and then go back to clear.

after this you are going to want to put the bag directly in to the freezer.
after it is cooled, for about an hour or so. so now you have this really bone dry pot, brownish even. DO not open the bag yet...un tie the twisty to barely let air out,take a rolling pin and roll out this bone dry pot till all of the air is out, what you have just done is created a carbon crystal, it is no longer an oily cell, youve now baked it to 11-carboxy THC, after you have turned the herb to powder and removed all the stems n sticks
throw the powder in to some butter, the color of the butter will instantly turn green when mixed well. and as soon as the green streaks disipate and you have a solid green color tone you are ready to go you now have beautiful pot butter those who use the traditional cannabutter recipe, can also use this method before extracting in to butter, to ensure you will have all of your cannabinoids in place i hope this recipe works for all of you as well as it has worked for me, take care!

one more note!:
ratio- 1/4 pound butter to a 1/4 oz. powder mixed. im sure you can do the rest of the math yerself
you can add this powder to mayo,dressing,oil,milk shakes anything that has a fat base
On a molecular level, this process converts everything in the plant into a ready to digest state. The experience from physically absorbing , all the cannabinoids all at once, is to say the least 'unique'.

 

[SkunkyDemon]

Sounds like it would work good. Ill havr to give it a try

 

[ethereal]

1. what is a steamrolle and where exactly would one go about obtaining said apperratus?
(i hope you do not mean the pavement 'smoothening' tractor! perhaps u meant 'rolling pin' ?


2. Who? What? When? where? why? and Why?..j/k, but HOW???
exactly is your butter going from contaminated, to 'streak free'* [/b]

* man, im so lost on that term too =\
perhaps u mean lacking contaminants?
if so,
HOW ARE THESE CONTAMINANTS DISSAPEARING INTO THIN AIR???
are you not filtering in any way here? (you hint this when you say no cheesecloth, etc is needed..)

just some clarification would be grately appreciated



thanks a bunch

 

[fieldgrower]

lol sry eth, i was smoking out of a steam roller last night LOL honest mistake, also. when i was taking about the green streaks disipating, i meant when you mix it well, to make sure its mixed until it has taken on a complete green color. all this process really does is transfer all the cannabinoids rather than just the thc over to butter.
time to do some editing!
thanks for pointing out that steam roller typo LOL

 

[asher1er]

so once i let it sit in the freezer for about an hour then i can open the bag and pin roll it?

this sounds like a much faster method to makin Budder

do we melt the butter in a pan then put the dry crumbles in it and mix it?

 

[fieldgrower]

no need to melt it or anything, just warm it up a little in the microwave to make it soft, and whip up the butter with the powder. you can mix with yogurt to
and yes once its out of the freezer you can open the bag and roll it. its ALOT easier to make, and takes alot less time than butter. and more effective if you ask me.

 

[stealthballer]

can I inquire to the significance of the bag?

if it is significant then you are vaping the weed then letting the weed re-absorb that vapor?and the rolling pin is meant to facilitate getting the residue off the bag itself?

 

[grumio]

This sounds interesting, but I don't quite get it either:

Once the cannabinoids are vaped, what exactly convinces them to condense back onto the baked plant matter rather than the inside of the oven bag?

The temperatures that I've seen cited most consistently are: THC starts to evaporate @ ~260F, up to its boiling point of 392F; I would guess that the other cannabinoids, being structurally related, would have similar temperature ranges.

 

[fieldgrower]

it does not convert ALL cannbinoids as your right about certain cannabinoids to burn out as well, but not at many as you would think, a little more than half of them which is more than enough to influnce the thc combo, still stay in tact. i do not know the exact chemistry of what goes on, but take my word on this, try it with a little bit of pot, you will not be dissapointed i promise you. ill try and get more info on this.

 

[fieldgrower]

steal;th you are exactly right, the vapor re carbonizing the herb, so that its instantly ready to be bound to a fatty substance/oil.

 

[grumio]

Looks like I've got another addition to my list of experiments to try...

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

I think you have your terminology mixed up. 11 carboxy has no psychoactive use. It just affects how the liver metabolizes thc...........Is this what you are getting at?

 

[Bababooey]

Is this analogous to baking your weed slightly before cooking it with butter? I've seen butter recipes on this forum where, in order to decarboxylate the THC before putting it into the pot with the butter, you're supposed to bake it briefly at 300-350 degrees in order to remove the carboxy group (which is what happens when you smoke weed). They say it makes the butter much stronger. I've only done cannabutter once, not decarboxylating before, but when I do butter again I'm going to try baking the weed first...

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

Weed will decarb somewhat just during curing. Cooking with butter will decarb it further. This oven method just seems like and extra step that is not needed IMO, no offense. Just like when I make THC pills, I take my BHO and put it with olive oil in a jar sealed. In reduced boiling water for 20 min to decarb it.

 

[Haps]

The deoxy step is well worth the time, I would say it increases potency 2-3X, and that makes a big difference. I do 325 for five minutes, then make the green milk, works great.
H

 

[dude06version]

^^yea i saw a video on youtube where a lady did that before she made the budder .. she just thru some buds on a cookie sheet and put it in the oven.at 5 minutes she opened the oven and a bunch of vape came out...