Trail cam detection

[demasoni]

Obviously trail/wildlife cams are major threat to outdoor job, especially when its setup by LEO on your chosen area. Even worse if they manage to find a transition/supply point and snap pics of you undected not in gear/mask.

whats the best method of detection for trail cameras?
I've looked at camera detectors, seems the two methods of detection are visually detecting using device with viewfinder that locates camera lenses, and also scans RF. Do these devises only detect wireless cameras and hardwired security cameras? my understanding is the trailcam could only be detected if you walked the entire time looking through the viewfinder and looked at the camera as it snaps photo? or can these devices also see the camera even powered off?

also if a trailcam uses IR at night to snap pics, would it be visible to nightvision goggles when it flashes?

your knowledge is appreciated!

I also see combination units that scans for basically every type of data transmission over any usable medium- that used for detection, listening in addition to a visual method of spotting trail cams like night vision (if that works) makes for some potent countermeasures

 

[shack]

Sorry demasoni,I don't have any answers to your questions.
Just chimed in to say that, i have friend that was recently busted due to a trailcam.
Some do gooder found his plants in an overgrown field,and told the leo.
Leo set up a camera on the plants,and they got a picture of him standing by the plant/s.With that pic.,they got a warrant to search his house.

 

[masterKahn]

A thermal cam with the right settings can pick up even the most minute temperature changes. A video camera should produce small amounts of heat from electronics and any power source it it hooked to. If they are wireless you can pick up the RF and if it is not wireless It should have wires leading somewhere. Look for signs of mans hands in nature. They are looking for trails to your plot you should be looking for trails to their cameras.

 

[ureapwhatusow]

You can use IR to defeat most new security camera equipment

does do this with old analog equipment, but no one uses it anymore anyway

http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/02/21/ir-leds-used-to-defeat-security-cameras/

 

[demasoni]

thnks so far guys-
whats the best tool then? NV goggles? do other NV goggles glow when viewed through NV goggles, or is that thermal imaging? someone slept in physics and has been too lazy to wiki for years.

sounds like I get a pair of NV and I see all cams except a motion activated trail cam posibly?

 

[masterKahn]

NV goggles do not emit light of any kind they amplify available light to massive levels to allow humans to see in darkness. So NV scopes should be stealth. However night vision on cameras are normally amplified with infered LEDs these like the one's in a remote would show up as they produce light.

 

[ROJO145]

Set YOUR cams up first,beat em to it.Theres loads of cheap trail cams at wallys now,hell,they got one that will call your phone if it goes off AND send you a pic!!!Its a 6 hundge model and requires cell service,but nobody sneaks up on ya!!Game cams are an outdoor growers best friend imo

 

[Backwoods Bud]

Set YOUR cams up first,beat em to it.Theres loads of cheap trail cams at wallys now,hell,they got one that will call your phone if it goes off AND send you a pic!!!Its a 6 hundge model and requires cell service,but nobody sneaks up on ya!!Game cams are an outdoor growers best friend imo

Excellent advice ROJO145! They work great! Get them before they get you!

 

[bpt420]

I'm sure it might to be hard to say, but how often is this kind of thing done? Would a few small plants be enough to get them to place cameras or would this only be for "bigger" grows.

 

[hamstring]

I am very interested in this topic also. I often find myself looking for them just in case. I have only run into them once and that was on private property where a hunter had mistakenly thought the deer trail I has been using to gain access to a grow was a well-worn deer trail. I saw it on the base of the tree way before tripping it.

This is a just an opinion but they are pretty easy to spot in the daylight because many of these need to be very close to be tripped to take the picture. Although I was just looking at the local sports shop and they seem to have come a long way some claim they can be tripped at 40ft away and that’s a fair distance and they could then be hidden better. This model was 300 frog skins and I assume top of the line.

PEACE

 

[hamstring]

Sorry demasoni,I don't have any answers to your questions.
Just chimed in to say that, i have friend that was recently busted due to a trailcam.
Some do gooder found his plants in an overgrown field,and told the leo.
Leo set up a camera on the plants,and they got a picture of him standing by the plant/s.With that pic.,they got a warrant to search his house.

I don’t doubt the validity of this story but more info needed. The only time I have seen this in action was on a thread when OG was still on line. They put the trail camera pic in the newspaper and asked if anyone new this person.

What i am getting at is even if they do have your picture they have to ID a guy that many times is in full camo with a hat on. On top of that these pics are not meant to be high resolution they are not filming for national Geographic just letting the hunter know what animal (including guerrillas) is using the trail. The cameras are getting much better and I have seen 3meg resolution on them so there should be significant clarity depending on light and wind and vegetation so it still seams tough to get a clear shot from a well hidden trail camera.

PEACE

 

[1G12]

Some do gooder found his plants in an overgrown field,and told the leo.
Leo set up a camera on the plants,and they got a picture of him standing by the plant/s.With that pic.,they got a warrant to search his house.

Interesting.........I wonder how leo matched an address to a pic of some unknown person? They must have been watching him in some other capacity as well.
Great thread by the way.
I guess out door folks should stay away from well worn trails & bushwhack it to their chosen spots.

 

[Lazyman]

Hell, if you're gonna visit your grow in NV goggles, they will hide your face anyway, but a ski mask is lots cheaper and frankly less suspicious than a dude wearing a NV goggle setup!

 

[Unionman]

Just saw a deal in the local news today about the cops actually hanging out for 2 weeks to catch the growers.

They found the crop with a heli and just posted up. Not sure if they have thoes camera or not they did not say. 3 people arrested and one got away.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

man, this is some crazy shit to have to worry about.

 

[darkhollo]

I think it all depends on where you are. In my out of the way area cops will sit for a week for just a few plants. They are bored or prefer just sitting waiting for some poor stoner to come along.

Your habits need to be based on your local municipality's behavior. Read the newspaper, watch the local news. There are numerous small time busts and over time you can get a feel for how insane they are and how they found out about most grows.

Amazing the public allows cops to spend so much effort on such small busts but I have seen it in my area. I have not heard of them using trail cams, but I have seen one where they camped on the spot for a week to get one lonely guy with 6 plants.

--dh

 

[demasoni]

I think it all depends on where you are. In my out of the way area cops will sit for a week for just a few plants. They are bored or prefer just sitting waiting for some poor stoner to come along.

bored cops are even worse for sure, that includes where I am. a few 2lbers would show up on local news "police take down massive marijuana manufacturing operation" They have the money to spare I'm sure they'd use their cams, if not wait for a couple weeks, ar15/M4s, body armor, NV spotting scopes and all. I have to rely on a little more than technology to be safe amidst that...
stress and more stress...

 

[Verite]

If youre that worried then only visit your patch at night. I dont care what kind of setup they have it still wont be able to clearly identify you at night. Ive seen the best of night vision equipment and even when the crap was 3 feet from your face you still couldnt tell who it was.

 

[demasoni]

well staying totally covered head to toe should prevent them from making an ID, spotting trail cams is mostly in the interest of keeping them from seeing when you came and which direction you came from, knowing your there period... might as well be an abandoned crop as far as they're concerned.

coming up next: extreme drought has probably undone some hard work.

 

[demasoni]

also

man, this is some crazy shit to have to worry about.

yes, and I really wouldn't put it past them.
Aside from trail cams I could look for figures in digi camo, masks and helmets dangling in harnesses from the trees maybe 20 or 30 strong, safety in numbers (you can never be too careful confronting criminal gardeners/outdoorsmen)