Toxic waste in effect?!

[Guest]

you should all check this list.
I posted this in "indoor grows soil"
but I know how these forums can be, I am new here so not many people will read my posts, barely anyone looked, but I wont hold it against anyone you elitist pricks

I do have some chemy ferts on my shelves for houseplants and whatnot, I was already on my way to going organic with everything I do, and now after seeing this list, I am tossing all my ferts that are not organic. Take this seriusly, I don't know about you, but even though I'm not eating my houseplants (or smoking them) I find it pretty sketchy to be even handling anything with any level of heavy metals.

I don't mean to preach to the choir, this is the organic forums, perhaps one or a few of you who are well know here can spread this link around if you see fit, unless of course you don't want your friends to know there is lead, mercury, nickel, and other such bizzarre toxic waste in your seemingly innocent ferts.

Here is the link, it is a list of all store bought ferts on the shelves organic and chemy, it will tell you what else is in your fert other than what is written on the bag.......just another reason to go organic!

http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/Product1.asp?action=ViewTable<r=M

 

[Smurf]

Elitist pricks eh, that's a good one bbc, I was keen to have a gander at that list,............. copy & paste that link, but to no avail, got it sussed here:

http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/ProductDatabase.htm

 

[Ganico]

I'm disappointed in FoxFarm

 

[Smurf]

Makes you wonder what sort of diet these animals are on for their manure to be analysed with...... take for example FF Peace of Mind Bat Guano 0:7:0 - traces of 9 heavy metals: Arsenic 12 ppm, Cadmium 3.7 ppm, Cobalt 9 ppm, Mercury 0.02 ppm, Molybdenum 4.1 ppm, Nickel 9.5 ppm, Lead 5.1 ppm, Selenium 1 ppm, Zinc 1430 ppm.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for hookin that up smurf, I tried the copy-paste thing after I posted it and it worked for me....?....

yea after checkin that list I am disapointed in many products I thought were ok, you know what that means right?
That means that probably everything you buy in the grocery store produce section (unless it's organic) to eat has trace amounts of heavy metals in it, hence the cancer problem, amongst many others.

I learned this about Flouride as well a few years ago, it also is a toxic waste, that's why it's in the water supply of some cities and towns, it's cheaper for these companies to pay town councils to put it in their water supply than to dispose of it properly, whatever that means.

It's been a song and dance propaganda for years that flouride is good for you, it is OK in the short term, just like chemy ferts, noticable difference right away, but in the longrun as it slowly builds up you will be poisoned.

Toothpaste?....yep....toxic waste disposal.

what a crazy world.........

 

[Smurf]

That's the thing that I don't understand..... why the hell do our governments allow water to be treated with fluoride. I’ve spoken to the head of dental surgery at the local university and he was quite adamant about its health benefits, claiming – “under no circumstance should you swallow any toothpaste because fluoride is toxic”. A lot of proponents for fluoride are now back flipping on their original stance.

The Phosphate Fertilizer Industry

They call them "wet scrubbers" - the pollution control devices used by the phosphate industry to capture fluoride gases produced in the production of commercial fertilizer.
In the past, when the industry let these gases escape, vegetation became scorched, crops destroyed, and cattle crippled.

Today, with the development of sophisticated air-pollution control technology, less of the fluoride escapes into the atmosphere, and the type of pollution that threatened the survival of some communities in the 1950s and 60s, is but a thing of the past (at least in the US and other wealthy countries).

However, the impacts of the industry's fluoride emissions are still being felt, although more subtly, by millions of people - people who, for the most part, do not live anywhere near a phosphate plant.
That's because, after being captured in the scrubbers, the fluoride acid (hydrofluorosilicic acid), a classified hazardous waste, is barrelled up and sold, unrefined, to communities across the country. Communities add hydrofluorosilicic acid to their water supplies as the primary fluoride chemical for water fluoridation.

Even if you don't live in a community where fluoride is added to water, you'll still be getting a dose of it through cereal, soda, juice, beer and any other processed food and drink manufactured with fluoridated water.

Meanwhile, if the phosphate industry has its way, it may soon be distributing another of its by-products to communities across the country. That waste product is radium, which may soon be added to a roadbed near you - if the EPA buckles and industry has its way.


Just another good reason to convert to organics!

 

[vonforne]

And not to leave out the industrial slug they add to the pre-made soils and composts. I do not have a link but I do read labels. and if you read some they contain slug. Whats in the slug I do not want to know. i just will not use something like that.

Great info. Thanks and we will try an keep it current.

 

[inflorescence]

Yeah, I've been going to that site for the last couple of years to check out some old ferts and new one's I contemplate buying.

One thing that shocked me, besides the obvious toxic crap, was the amount of zinc in a lot of the ferts. I mean zinc is a micronute, but sometimes that site list the zinc content like 10 or 100 times what the actual label says for zinc. This can't be good for the micronute balance of the fert and hence the plant.

 

[vonforne]

I had actually used the Peace of Mind series from FF. But from now on I will check this list first. Holy shit what a list. Alaskan Fish Emulsions.

But I didn't see Maxi Crop products and Sunleaves. The two main ferts I use. Thats good.


If FF has so many of their products on there. What about the Ocean Forest everyones using. It is bound to be loaded also. I mean they are not going to Sunleaves to supplement their soil with their ferts right?