Too much smoke?

[Papulz]

just wanted to throw out some ideas and see what i get in return here. I myself am a heavy smoker and have been for several years. i was talking with a former puffer who was in a similar position as myself- (as much to smoke as you want basically) and she expressed notions of really heavy pot use or high thc content material such as bubblehash/oil can subdue a given user's personality. It struck a tone with me and im still a bit tweaked from that discussion.. i feel like theres truth to be had in that somewhere.

anyone ever felt themselves change from the smoke?

perhaps its time for a little break if i can muster the control

 

[SEEDYNONO]

yes.

as they say..

everything in moderation..

including moderation.

 

[Papulz]

did you have a specific instance at all yourself seedy?
or anyone else for that matter open her up im curious what people have experienced from pots rather muddied neutral/negative type effects.

 

[Gangabiss]

I've noticed that if I stop smoking for a few weeks nothing really changes in my peronality apart from me getting pissed off alot easier at silly little things.
Everything seems to become more abrasive and harder to cope with (not overwhelmingly so) but then that is the nature of our present fucked up reality.

I think herb is neccesary for me to deal with the bullshit that comes my way occasionally...it also stops me from going completely insane and shouting at every idiot who doesn't have a fucking clue.

I think it fits better with some people and not so well with others...find out what works best for you, not what society has made you believe is right and acceptable.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with smoking it every single day if you so wish. People take horribly addictive and dangerous drugs every day without a second thought for depression etc. so if I can get by with a little smoke then why the hell not?

Herb is my all round medication

 

[Tarkus]

I find that if I have not smoked for a day or two, my vision can occasionally go crazy. I will be reading something on the computer or in a book and my vision will get blurry for a few seconds. Or I will slowly cross my eyes. It only happens when I am reading. It is easy to stop, I just have to realize I am doing it first. When I smoke everyday, my vision seems to stay constantly fine.
I think it might be a concentration thing, like I am looking to hard at the words or something. But it only happens when I am out of grass.

 

[Papulz]

gangabiss i totally dig what your sayin man. im too much of a worrier thinker and uptight asshole when i dont smoke.. i just feel like since im using an illegal substance all the time i limit myself socially and have harder times trusting/opening up to people.

 

[STORZ & BICKEL]

I find that if I have not smoked for a day or two, my vision can occasionally go crazy. I will be reading something on the computer or in a book and my vision will get blurry for a few seconds. Or I will slowly cross my eyes. It only happens when I am reading. It is easy to stop, I just have to realize I am doing it first. When I smoke everyday, my vision seems to stay constantly fine.
I think it might be a concentration thing, like I am looking to hard at the words or something. But it only happens when I am out of grass.

Thats pretty interesting as I have noticed the exact same thing on the days I do not smoke.......Also things will apear to shake every so slightly sometimes too...nothing dramatic, but kinda makes ya think.

I believe it has something to do with your eyes reacting to normal pressure again (when you smoke. the fluid pressure in your eye is decreased, which is why it's great for glacoma(sp) ; so im told)

S & B

 

[Tarkus]

S & B, it is good to know there are other people that have this happen to them. It sounds like the exact same thing, including the slight shaking. Not that much, just enough for me to go "That did happen, right?" I guess it is the pressure thing, because I notice it is a lot worse when I have been smoking everyday for a month and then have a few off days.

 

[Guest]

i just feel like since im using an illegal substance all the time

illegal? nooooooooooo

haha


I feel you guys. sometimes i realize that weed helps chill me out, when the stress burns my brain like acid rain drops.

 

[Papulz]

dont get me wrong man, its not like i want to respect non sensical laws like that but being a drug user doesnt always put you in the best of light when it comes to other peoples (primarily non smokers) perceptions.

in regards to adverse physical effects from smoking.. occasionally i get a hit thats potent enough (usually a new strain or concentrate + a big hit) i tend to be so overwhelmed that i cannot open my eyes. its different than oxygen dep when your vision blacks out. it just becomes supremely difficult to open my eyes. that lasts for maybe 30 seconds or if its something like a tenth of a g of hash oil all in one hit it might last like a couple minutes.

met a few people that have had this occur, but it seems like that vast majority do not experience it. anyone?

 

[OneWingedImp]

God i'd kill for a penny sized chunk of real hash. I've never had had real melty hash before, just pressed kief once or twice.

I do get burned out like that, but my problem is that i get unmotivated, and it really kills my work ethic. When i am high, i am stoked to work, but its wanting to get high, and the comin down from being high that do the negatives. I also realized colors are alot more vivid after detoxing for a while.

 

[Duppy]

"...can subdue a given user's personality..."

Yep, I'd say that's a pretty accurate description of cannabis, at least for me. I quit for a long time in my early 30's after smoking like a fiend since high school. I discovered, among other things, that I had a whole lot of anger that I had successfully suppressed with dope for a long time. And I'm not talking about being pissy because I had just quit -- I think that happens to everyone. I had some serious issues to deal with. I learned a lot about myself during those years.

I've been smoking again for years now, and I would say that I still do it partly so suppress that part of my personality. I don't like that part very much, and I find that cannabis does the job with far fewer side effects than the antidepressants and speed that I took completely legally.

What a fucking weird world we live in!

Anyway, I have always believed that if you think you should put it down for a while, then you should. The first couple of weeks aren't that much fun, but I quit caffeine for a while too, and that was MUCH harder.

**DISCLAIMER - After more than 40 years of using various legal and illegal drugs, one thing I am sure of is that EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT. Our experiences with this or any other substance could be as different as night and day. Or not.

 

[Gangabiss]

gangabiss i totally dig what your sayin man. im too much of a worrier thinker and uptight asshole when i dont smoke.. i just feel like since im using an illegal substance all the time i limit myself socially and have harder times trusting/opening up to people.

I find it's a great tool for filtering out the people who you really don't want to be associated with anyway.

I hate myself for the way I act/talk sometimes when I haven't smoked for a while...I'll catch myself in the middle of something and say to myself "what the fuck am I doing? This isn't me"

I tend to be alot more on edge and nervous when I'm not high also, like right now I'm sitting here wiggling around on my arse and moving my toes...it's hard to sit still.....this is not me.

Don't worry, stay high

 

[fr33th3w33d]

i've never smoked real good bubble hash or anything, but.. just smoking weed sometimes changes my personality.. its the opposite of alcohol where instead of acting how i normally do, i have no constraints on what i say/do. i don't act the same, i act less, i tend to think more before i do and say things and usually im too paranoid/high to do normal things i do when sober.

 

[Papulz]

the introspective aspect eh fr33th? i really enjoy that from time to time myself, helps me develop a little more respect for philosophy and the like.

one winged imp - im always caught off guard on this site when people have nothin but their homegrown (sometimes not even that) and access to what is 'commercial' talk about your situation man im curious as hell. wish i could show you the light of bubble

 

[Papulz]

the introspective aspect eh fr33th? i really enjoy that from time to time myself, helps me develop a little more respect for philosophy and the like.

one winged imp - im always caught off guard on this site when people have nothin but their homegrown (sometimes not even that) and access to what is 'commercial' talk about your situation man im curious as hell. wish i could show you the light of bubble

duppy - I feel what your sayin man,it seems like it has a lot milder side effects than anything else available for medicating many problems for me anyway. everytime ive taken a break i sober up quickly and realize that oh wait, this is definitely still the right thing to be doin for my mental state. i definitely suppress parts of me i dont like with it. And absolutely - everyone can react differently to just about everything

hah gangabiss i really like your style man. i guess i was just thinking more along the lines of with women. seems really hard to find a good pro pot gal around. im not 100% positive but i think i remember seein a post of yours in the womens forum about the troubles of finding a good gal too?

 

[Gangabiss]

Thanks man, I dig your style too

I'm totally with you on the women thing, although I really can't say it makes that much of a difference wether I've smoked up or not...I still find it incredibly daunting walking up to a girl (or anybody for that matter) and initiating conversation. That just isn't me and I've come to accept that...there's no point kidding yourself you could be doing so much better when you know it's simply how you are. Not everyone is a 'playa'.

All my mates never had to do jack shit to get with their current girlfriends...just happened while out at some club and they walked over and chatted them up. So it goes to show you can just wait for them to come to you, and in this day and age women are beginning to take the initiative more and more, whereas before it was always the guy who was expected to make the first move...if a girl really wants you then trust me you will know about it

That may have been me you saw in the womens forum...I occasionally meander into the less popular subforums to see what's going on.

 

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i think smoking makes me stupid and forgetfull, but in a good way because being that slow at thinking you can truly chill out because you have nothing on your mind...

 

[Guest]

Im on a break right now and I've actually started to like it. It was kinda bad the first few days, and i had a strong craving (i use 'strong' relatively here, since its the weakest thing ever compared to what a heroin addict experiences) for the rest of the week. After that its been good though as long as I know i still have my stash to go back to if i need it.
I find that when i'm not smoking, i deal with my issues more instead of just avoiding them. I actually think i'm a bit friendlier when stoned. even my parents like having conversations with me when i visit home and i'm stoned despite the fact they disagree with it. I like myself a little better when stoned, I just don't think its the way to be all the time. I'm working on changing my personality to always be relaxed like i am when stoned.
At times when im incredibly stressed out, i'm a totally different person when stoned than not stoned. I get pissy when i'm sober and then once i hit im obviously just happy and relaxed cause i can forget everything.
I think times of sobriety let you find yourself a little more. I need to experience life, and being stoned all the time isn't always the way to do that. I may just revert to using it purely as an experience enhancer like i used to do.