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too much or not enough?

Dr. G

Active member
Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? clones
2. How old are your plants? 5 weeks flower
3. How tall are your plants? some are 12" around soil sog
4. What size containers are they planted in? 1 gal
5. What is your soil mix? foxfarms of with some light warrior
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use? r/o when they need it
7. What is the pH of your water? i adjust to 6.35-6.5
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? PBP and i dunno 3/4 whatthe recomended dose
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") 1200w hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants?dunno foot or so
12. What size is your grow space in square feet? 16
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? 77 deg on ave 50% humidity but depems on when i watered
14. What is the pH of the soil? 6.5-6.7
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? no
16. How much experience do you have growing? 4 grows under the belt


this is my shiva shante none of my other plants are showing this now i think it looks like a k def buti dunno whatsyour guys oppinion?

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00420

full time daddy
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do u fertilizer every time u water...... ?

have u tested your run off water for ph & ppm? id do a flush for starters.....

is this plant one of the close ones to the lite?
 

Dr. G

Active member
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00420 said:
do u fertilizer every time u water...... ? no but i supplement some things like karma, sweet, cal mag

have u tested your run off water for ph & ppm? no does PBP showup on a ppm correctally? id do a flush for starters..... ok ill do thast first thing tomorow i did feed them yesterday should i do a flush even tho its dark? this strain has no tendencies to herm

is this plant one of the close ones to the lite? no


thanks so do you think its over fert cuz it looks like a K deff
 
G

Guest

I think a foot is too close if you're using a 1200 w HPS

A good range is 18-22 inches from the tops of the plants in my experience.

Hope this helps.
 
B

Brother_Monk

That my friend, is a classic potassium deficiency in flower. Bump your PBP to full strength or add some P/K ferts pronto. I had a Cali-O that was the same kinda picky in bloom. Better to catch it early on tho. I doubt they will recover fully at this point.

:ying:
 
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Ganja Guerrilla

New member
not over fert or the pistils would turn redish and dryout

definetly phosphorus def in the flowering stage go look at the example here
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688


your plant may simply need more food , however

To rule out PH related issues complete a soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....

If the PH reading is out of optimum range 6.5-6.8 PH, you need to flush your plant.
Flush with PH corrected water, till in optimum PH range, 3 times the volume of the pots rule of thumb but may require much more flushing if the rootball is thick & sour

EG: 1 gal pot = 3 gal. flush

add 1/2 strength nutes to the last gallon of the flush.
 
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Brother_Monk

Hey good catch! I sometimes confuse the phosphorous and potassium. Early in the morning, I forget what the (P) stands for lol! But yeah....I meant to say phosphorous deficiency. For some reason, PBP always gives me this deficiency. Flora Nova corrected this. But now I just use the GH series. No more of these issues.

:ying:
 

Dr. G

Active member
Brother_Monk said:
Hey good catch! I sometimes confuse the phosphorous and potassium. Early in the morning, I forget what the (P) stands for lol! But yeah....I meant to say phosphorous deficiency. For some reason, PBP always gives me this deficiency. Flora Nova corrected this. But now I just use the GH series. No more of these issues.

:ying:


ya thats what i thought a (P) deff if i use a flower booster would that help solve my problem?

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Anyone else see thrip scars on the last pic?
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ya i hope thats just from my spraying organicide on them at one point in there life i dont see any flys but ill check tomorow morning
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Looks more lack severe lack of calcium.

16.67 ml pbp for soil + 5.8 ml cal mag plus per gallon of water.

Can't add dolomite lime to get more calcium because your ph is high. Have to add it with your fert water.

If you can't afford cal mag plus, send me a pm and i will give you alternatives.

:smoker:
 

coolx

Active member
^^^ ???!!! WTF?! Ca def? No way. What are you smoking? Oh sorry .. stoopid q.

As Brother_Monk said - classic P def. (take a look at the sticky Sick Plant guide pics).

Canadian Herb said:
I think a foot is too close if you're using a 1200 w HPS
a 1200 HPS? Wonder where I could get me one of those? I guess canada is way ahead of us in some things eh? ........ He's probably using 3 x 400W and in that case 12" is OK otherwise it could be heat stress, but it isn't cos you have some top leaves gone and some bottom ones whilst the mid ones are OK.
 
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titoon29

Travelling Cannagrapher Penguin !
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Hey Dr.G
I think you should give them more ferts rich in P and K...
Got this problem two months ago, my plants were exactly as yours.
You should notice very slow bud growing ..

Titoon
 

HeadyPete

Take Five...
Veteran
If Blackvelvet grew a plant, then maybe he would know what he is doing. Alas, no growing = no experience.

Now he is just a poser who guesses at answers and is usually wrong wrong wrong.

Tells us more about the battery acid, oh gro king.

Send him a pm so he can bullshit you some more in private.
 
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Dr. G

Active member
coolx said:
^^^ ???!!!

a 1200 HPS? Wonder where I could get me one of those? OK.


2 600w in a 4x4 hydro hut and they are more like 1.5-2 feet away actually i was just guessing lasttime

but ya ive been feeding them more and ill give em alittle shot of hydroplex
 

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