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too many females..time for a 2nd flowering room

B00st3d

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Ok so after 3 months off since my last harv I decided to get back at it. However I didnt plan on gettin 14 out of 16 females. Not to mention in a moment of inspiration I germinated another 10 D-lines and 10 Recons (DNA) about 2 weeks ago. So now I have 14 girls in 5 gallon buckets crammed under (3) 600hps in an 8x3 space. They're 10 days in 12/12 right now and on the verge of exploding with buds so space is gonna be even more of an issue within a week or so. Half of those are a blueberryxskunk strain that I been growing since 2001 and the rest are a diesel cross that I came across a few years ago.

So Im gonna end up doing a second flowering room for the first time in my 8 years of doin this. Should I just expand my 8x3 space that I constructed and fit one more 600 in there to handle the 14 that are flowering. Maybe make it 10x3/10x3.5 maybe ?? And then maybe convert my veg room into the 2nd flowering room? I was thinkin maybe I can hang a 6 foot light rail and throw a 1000 watt hps on it to flower the recons and d-lines. What do you guys think ?

Or should I just get 2 more stationary 600s and put the extras and the new babies together in one chamber . The reason I dont put everyting together in one room is the 15 amp breaker for that room which is at its limit running 3 digi 600s as it is and also heat build up. Not to mention the room itself is about 12x12 but I like having the extra space to move around . The veg room and soon to be 2nd flower room is on a 20 amp breaker so I can play with a lil more power in there. And if I do add one more 600 to the exisitng 3 , should I form a square with them or keep them in line like they are now ?

And on a side note, Im running galaxy digi ballasts in my flowering room and on the 400mh in the veg room. They run to sunsystem cool sun reflectors with 6 inch ducting connecting all 3 in line. I use a can66 fliter with a vortex 449cfm sitting on top of it to blow thru the 3 reflectors which exits out thru more 6 inch ducting and then blows it out of the room all together. Im prolly gonna be adding a fan to pull the air on the other side as well at some point if I have to add another 600 . My last harv off this setup last fall yielded 40 ounces of dank from the 9 plants that finished.

I use a mix of Ocean forest dirt mixed with light warrior on half of my girls and on the other half Im using the Ocean forest mixed with Promix Premier HP and perlite. I prolly should have stuck with my good ole mix of Ocean forest, pro mix, worm castings, perlite and vermiculite but its a pain in the ass to mix enough to fill 15 five gallon buckets. I also use hydroton to line the bottom of my buckets to avoid any kind of puddling on the bottom. It works like a charm. I use this 8x4 foam insulation board that I cover in 2mm mylar to construct the walls. Then I use velcro to secure everything together , which also makes takin it apart easy. I'll take some pics of the new stuff soon. Any feedback on my setup would be appreciated. Im also open to the idea of doin a stadium setup so if you have any experience with that then plz post up.
 
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greekguy

i think 600s are the way to go, check my grow if u want for the results of a single 600
 

B00st3d

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Ya I havent used a thou since my very first indoor grow. Its such a pain in the ass to maintain the right temp and humidity with thousands. But on a light rail I was thinking it would save me the trouble of having to cool it. Im all about my 600 watt digis, nothing even comes close. I used to use the future brite digis but 2 of 3 failed on me at the worst times so I threw them in the trash. Now I exclusively use Galaxy digi ballasts and they are THE best , end of story.
I got anywhere between 3-6 ounces per plant using solormax and hortis mixed together. However since I use new bulbs for every harv, I decided to try agrosun sodiums for a change. I also added Earth Juice Catalyst to my feeding routine to supplement the FoxFarm/superthrive/maxicrop tea I been using for years. I also cut out the Open sesame, Cha ching and Beastie Budz that I tried last time due to a very slight difference in taste I noticed and didnt like. Im also goin slightly heavier on the C02 this time too. Instead of using 11/13 im using 11.5/12.5 light dark cycle this time as well. Im also starting to top plants again which I hadnt done the last 2 harvs due to time being an issue. I did notice that the plants I dont top finish faster and show much less signs of stress then the ones topped. As far as yield goes , I dont see too too much of a difference. The plants that dont get topped usually get a nice 30 gram main cola or so. Where as the topped ones produce dozens of 5-10 gram colas. Its alot easier to dry and cure the smaller buds however manicuring is a bitch when you have all those buds to deal with. After losing a few huge colas due to mold I've decided to maybe focus on more mid size buds from now on, not to mention no one wants to buy huge buds due to the extra lumber .Anyone have pics of four 600s set up ?
 
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YwouldntI

if you have a big enough space 1000's r the way to go for sure.more light -more bud.you can air cool them as well as get a big fat a/c. right now im runnin 3 1000's and heat is not an issue...yet...i plan on adding 3 more 1000,s in the near future then it might get tricky-lol. i had 1-1000 on a mover and heat wasnt bad ,and i pulled a decent crop these pics were taken day 30 of 12/12
i have to add this is the day i hung that 400 wt mh that you see,i was trying the dual spectrum thing,i dont know how much it helped this far into flowering.if i remember right i got 2 3/4 lbs.off this grow,not bad for 1 1000 on a mover though i think...i ran into the same problem as you too many ladies not enough room i had to do a rebuild recently myself,thats why i say if ur gonna rebuild anyway you can easily make the space big enough to get a couple 1000's in there(assuming you have the room)and flower to the limit.peace gl heres the pics of that grow i was telling you about.peace












the new room is twice as big as this one was,i hope my babbling could be of some help -Y-
 
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greekguy

1 1000=140000lum
2 600=1200=180000lum

u get what i want to say?
 

B00st3d

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Ok so my connection went out when I tried to post so I lost everything I typed ughhh. Basically space isnt an issue. And I never have anyone over at all really except the occasional chic I bring home and such.

I wanna keep it to these 2 rooms tho due to the lack of beefed up breakers. To get from one flower room to the other I would have to use an extension cord and I never ever plug ballasts into extension cords ever ! So I'll prolly keep the 1800 watt room like it is, extract the scragglers/xtras and move them into the veg room , soon to be 2nd flower room. Then relocate the veg room to a closet. Then when the recons and d-lines are ready in 2 more weeks, move them in there too.I'll put them on a table to even out the height issue until they get taller and start to catch up with the later stage plants. You know I have this 359 degree sun twist mover that I havent ever even used , Im thinkin bout maybe even doin something with that instead of the rails. I do need to make up my mind in the next few days tho so I can set up fast and move the extras.

And yes I agree Greekguy, the thou cant really compete with the two 600's. Its just alot cheaper to buy a thou instead of 2 600's and then have to buy another fan to cool the reflectors ughhh. Nice pics btw, they stretched way too much but looks like a healthy crop I'd say. I'll post some pics in the next day or so.
 
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YwouldntI

i know the stretch was crazt i vegged them too long,that was my fault,plus that was my first go with the mover and i didnt know that i could have it so much closer with the mover i had more then a couple mishaps with this go heres how the new room is goin

thats 21 days into flower peace
 
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Guest

small spaces' are the shit .... we got alot of things in common
9x6 room 8x3 grow area 3x600 lights it up (mover out of commision now)

rock that shit homie
 

B00st3d

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YwouldntI- I know how it feels to veg a bit too long and then kinda screw yourself with a tall plant. Been there and done that and I usually just top the plant when that happens.

Nice lookin setup Esco. Is that the kush under them lights ? Looks good.

Im thinkin bout just goin out and grabbin 2 more 600s today. Theres a cheaper alternative to my cool suns now with 6 inch ducts and they cost like 120 bux compared to the 200 a piece I paid for my cool suns a year ago or so. Does anyone know which reflector Im talkin about, I think its made by hydrofarm. I dont think the filter in my main room is gonna be enough to control the odor from both rooms either. So I guess im gonna buy another can66 and a vortex to go with it. Plus once this skunkberry gets cookin in another week or so its gonna stink up a storm. Im not even 2 weeks into flowering and the bud formation is makin leaps and bounds daily. I think this EJ catalyst I added to my program is makin a difference. I hope these DNA beans are worth the effort and cash its takin to set up a whole nother room tho. Someone plz post up some recons or d-lines if you have grown them. I also have some cannelopehaze and anunnaki beans from DNA but they dont look too great, maybe not even worth sprouting.
 

B00st3d

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Just thought Id post a few pics I took last night right before my dark cycle started. I'll post more later when Im not high :rasta:

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Some stuff still left over from the last harv

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B00st3d

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Ok so I now found out that DNA is banned from this site so Im assuming thats why no one is really respondin to my thread? I take it I wont be able to share this recon/d-line grow on this forum then :(

Anyhow, I pulled sum scragglers and herms and narrowed it down to 6 plants so that I could make rom for the DNA's which have now mostly been moved into 5 gallon buckets. I went with a 40/40/20 blend of Pro mix, Ocean forest and perlite. I decided to do it this way as opposed to havin to go out and spend a fortune puttin a new flower room together. So for now the new ones will stay under the 400mh and one of the 600hps that Im removin from the other room. This way I can finish veggin the new ones under 1000 watts and keep 1200 watts in the other room above the 6 females that I left. So I guess I'll be needin sum new genetics to grow so I can post up on here about something other then my own genetics that no ones heard of or even worse the DNA stuff. Oh and btw , does anyone here use Botanicare Sweet and if so how often and how much do you use?
 

mudvaynefan

Member
I dont really think its a problem about the maker of your seeds. BOG had a fallout around here, they are still doing preservation threads about him.

Im going to be flowing in the same buckets soon under 250 hps and 100 cfl, though no air cooled hood.

You should be fine with what ever plant you want to grow around here, no one blames the plant!

LoL
 
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