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Too late to train with a screen?

stinkybear

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Hello

I have a very short grow space. I only have maybe 4in more I can take the light up. I will be redoing the layout of my room after this grow. My current plan is to finish this out, which is my first real grow. After this, I will do away with my mothers and begin cloning off the flowering plants 2-3 weeks away from harvest. This will give them time to revert to veg I hope. So have said you have to wait for flowering clones to reveg. I am not sure if this is true, maybe someone can help me. So, this is the most current picture of my grow. I have begun LST training, but I was not able to do it that well. This being my first grow and trying pinching/super cropping, I screwed up a lot of tops and got lengthy lower branches instead. I think this will prove to have a weight problem later, which leads me to think I need to fashion a screen at the current level and not let them get taller and just move my light all the way up and hope for the best. I am doing a full grow with a 454w HO T5 with 50/50 red blue bulbs, and General hydro nutes.


So is it too late the throw a screen in there? I just have to figure out how. I might just make a small pvc frame that can hang from my light and make 1 inch squares.
 

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bushwakka

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this being your first grow i dont think you were ready for the stretch in flowering, i had 3ft plants my first grow so switched to flower and had 6 ft bushes!!!one thing you could try now is squeezing the necks so they flop over, they should be fine(not too stressed) and you will gain a bit of space,i've just had to do this on a freebie plant and its fine.
 

prowler

Member
It's never too late for a scrog.

Biggest problem you'll have is to train them to somewhat even canopy. This can be still achieved if you take some time to train them. Little by little bring the screen closer and let your plants settle for a couple of a days so that stems will adopt. This way you won't brake any stems.

LST becomes easy as hell when you have something concrete to tie them to. Rockwool cubes aren't the best choise when you consider LST.

And I really suggest you to take clones after 2-3 weeks of flowering. They root in approx 2. weeks and take another 2 weeks to start vegging. The reward will be bushier cuttings. Side nodes starts to grow from the bud site as well as the main top. This is also the second reason blooming clones will take much more time to start vegging again.
 
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Danny-boy777

Agreed, lots of work but not impossible, YOu will love what you get its awesome having a screen of weed.

Namaste :joint:
 
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Danny-boy777

Eish, Personal Experience, thats all my comments are based on.
 

stinkybear

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screen design

screen design

Attached is a picture of my screen design. I am going to hang it from the light, 4-6in below it. Using PVC, I will have cross bars over the lights that extend down to the frame of the screen. Screen size will be 1x1 with fine white rope.

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stinkybear

New member
SCreen Made

SCreen Made

Ok, here is a pic of the screen that I made today. And also a pic of what I am going to try to train today. Any suggestions on tackling this? I am going to tie the screen to my light using adjustable knots, then I am going to, at different increments, weave the plants into it from top to bottom. Thoughts?
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stinkybear

New member
one good thing about my screen is that the squares are really stretchy, so I wont have to "squeeze" the plants through that much. I think...
 

stinkybear

New member
Grow is now a scrog

Grow is now a scrog

Hello

Just put my screen in place and started training. I didn't do all of it because its late and also, I want to see how they react to what I have done. The screen is tied to the light, but both are adjustable, just a little pain in the ass. Next grow will probably have a frame. I hope to hell I don't get bugs now.
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prowler

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Looking good! you should not worry bout mold if you do some proper ollipopping after 3 weeks of blooming.

But there is one more detail i would like to bring out to you.

Try to get the canopy flat right now! You can bring the light a lot closer to the bud sites and you'll be surprised how the smallest of the smallest bud sites start to develop when they catch the proper lighting. There are as many ways to do a scrog as there are growers but now when you have started the scrog a "bit late" id suggest you try to achieve a real flat canopy like this:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=155911&page=2

Language is in finnish but the pictures are the ones that matters.
 

Marshall

Member
Before ditching the moms, I suggest you try cloning from flowering plants. Some have success, others dont. The few times I have tried, I had a high failure rate. Some did root though.

I will agree the plants will be bushier. It took me a while to get them to reveg, and start growing. But once they did, all the bud sites started branching. I was able to top them and have a ton of side shoots.
 

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