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auroradeville

New member
I will try to keep this short:
An associate was convinced by another associate (who grew outdoor in Cali) that we should invest in a grow op. After we financed two grow rooms (1 veg 1 flower) everyone who knew what they were doing disappeared. Then someone suggests the sea of green method in coco coir, only explaining the water retention and not mentioning the nutrient preservation. Clones just worked for us, so we have 100+ plants, meanwhile high ph (tap water) combined with over feeding and neglect from being overwhelmed took its toll. I had only watered them up until that point, cloned a few times, but seeing such sad plants got me researching like crazy, and we messed up so much I can't believe they didn't die. Spent a good three hours pruning, and rearranging, and adjusted nutrients. I still want to flush, but all my veggies came back bushy and healthy. However, our flowering plants have slowed to a halt. The deficiencies seem to be strain specific, but none are producing like they were in soil. So my question is, will flushing help lockout? Will anything? I'm guessing lock out because the same defics were in my veg too but they recovered. Also, the Rocky Mountains have crazy purple leaves with orange-ish edges, can anyone determine for me what this is? Best feeding/flush schedule? Can using nutrients from different companies cause issues? I've read once coco dries out after a day its time to transplant, true? Should I bother trying or just see them through? And whatever advice you'd like to share. I've become absolutely attached to them, and want them to be happy.
90% Botanicare Coco Coir/10% Perilite
Ghost Og, Violator Kush, Hindu Kush, Rocky Mountain Kush, Anesthesia Haze, Cherry Pie, and Bumblebee
Original Nutrients:
5ml Heavy 16 A+B
5ml CalMag
12ml Liquid Karma
15-20ml Sweet
5ml Silica Blast
8ml Nirvana
8ml Big Bud (Only to a few he pointed out)
(I believe he meant for flower and I thought it was all the same, I've read the labels run high anyway, and a lot of these nutrients overlap)
Altered Mix:
5ml Heavy 16 A+B veg or flower
3ml CalMag every third feed
12ml Liquid Karma(veg) 8ml(bloom)
12-15ml Sweet
5ml Silica
8ml Nirvana(wk3-6 flower)
8ml Big Bud(I let him decide when)
8ml Overdrive(Again, he decides)
There's plenty more mistakes I've made but that should do for now. Please try not to be harsh, this responsibility was not expected and I'm really trying to learn. I'd love any help, and if more info is needed I will provide it to the best of my ability.

I'll try to get some pictures soon. Thank you!
 

coldcanna

Active member
Veteran
Yea not much anybody can do without pics. But 100+ plants for your first grow holy crap talk about trial by fire. In your shoes I'd really want to simplify, take a few dozen of the strongest plants and scrap the rest for this run. Simplify the nute schedule too, pick one company and follow their schedule with their basic products. Your prob actually doing more harm than good trying to dial in correct applications of 10+ different products. Anyways, that's where I'd start.... Giving 100% care to a few will prob get you better results than having a fire drill with a 100+
 

Hydro-Soil

Active member
Veteran
Yeah... great advice.

Take it and run!

Lock everything but the base nutrients (A/B and Silica blast) in a tool box and give someone the key for 6-8 months. They won't help you a bit and are very dangerous if you aren't familiar with plants yet. :)

Try to shoot for underfeeding them. "Almost" underfed plants produce WAAAAY more of a crop than any overfed plant. :)

Switch to plain water about 2 weeks before harvest.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 
Yea not much anybody can do without pics. But 100+ plants for your first grow holy crap talk about trial by fire. In your shoes I'd really want to simplify, take a few dozen of the strongest plants and scrap the rest for this run. Simplify the nute schedule too, pick one company and follow their schedule with their basic products. Your prob actually doing more harm than good trying to dial in correct applications of 10+ different products. Anyways, that's where I'd start.... Giving 100% care to a few will prob get you better results than having a fire drill with a 100+

Spot on advice. Taking a 100 bitches to your first dance is ballsy. Chop the weakest, focus on the best ones and while you are here, do about 2000 pages of reading. Sounds like you have too much money invested in nutes. Word of advice? Don't let people with no money or concrete attachment to the outcome of the project convince you to be the financier. Ever. Regardless of the venture, everyone must lose equally if there is failure to ensure motivation.
 

auroradeville

New member
I have put pictures of my flowers up, veg coming soon. I think I brought them back :) Soon gonna change to cns17, hoping they like the switch.
 

auroradeville

New member
Made a feeding schedule, got them on a calendar. They seem to like the structure, and I water them once a day, the flowers dry out Really quick but everything else is much more low maintenance.
 
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Sat X RB

looked at yr Albums. you seem to be doing OK. and yeah ... you SHOULD be proud!
 
I will try to keep this short:
An associate was convinced by another associate (who grew outdoor in Cali) that we should invest in a grow op. After we financed two grow rooms (1 veg 1 flower) everyone who knew what they were doing disappeared. Then someone suggests the sea of green method in coco coir, only explaining the water retention and not mentioning the nutrient preservation. Clones just worked for us, so we have 100+ plants, meanwhile high ph (tap water) combined with over feeding and neglect from being overwhelmed took its toll. I had only watered them up until that point, cloned a few times, but seeing such sad plants got me researching like crazy, and we messed up so much I can't believe they didn't die. Spent a good three hours pruning, and rearranging, and adjusted nutrients. I still want to flush, but all my veggies came back bushy and healthy. However, our flowering plants have slowed to a halt. The deficiencies seem to be strain specific, but none are producing like they were in soil. So my question is, will flushing help lockout? Will anything? I'm guessing lock out because the same defics were in my veg too but they recovered. Also, the Rocky Mountains have crazy purple leaves with orange-ish edges, can anyone determine for me what this is? Best feeding/flush schedule? Can using nutrients from different companies cause issues? I've read once coco dries out after a day its time to transplant, true? Should I bother trying or just see them through? And whatever advice you'd like to share. I've become absolutely attached to them, and want them to be happy.
90% Botanicare Coco Coir/10% Perilite
Ghost Og, Violator Kush, Hindu Kush, Rocky Mountain Kush, Anesthesia Haze, Cherry Pie, and Bumblebee
Original Nutrients:
5ml Heavy 16 A+B
5ml CalMag
12ml Liquid Karma
15-20ml Sweet
5ml Silica Blast
8ml Nirvana
8ml Big Bud (Only to a few he pointed out)
(I believe he meant for flower and I thought it was all the same, I've read the labels run high anyway, and a lot of these nutrients overlap)
Altered Mix:
5ml Heavy 16 A+B veg or flower
3ml CalMag every third feed
12ml Liquid Karma(veg) 8ml(bloom)
12-15ml Sweet
5ml Silica
8ml Nirvana(wk3-6 flower)
8ml Big Bud(I let him decide when)
8ml Overdrive(Again, he decides)
There's plenty more mistakes I've made but that should do for now. Please try not to be harsh, this responsibility was not expected and I'm really trying to learn. I'd love any help, and if more info is needed I will provide it to the best of my ability.

I'll try to get some pictures soon. Thank you!
Sweet!!!
 

auroradeville

New member
Still have more than I'd like (around 60, plus new clones) in veg, but the only problem I have with them now is they are growing much quicker, and they sometimes burn themselves on the light "/ Will a screen help this? Because I transitioned six into flowering, and they are comically huge compared to my last crop, and I really don't like topping them every other day. I've raised the light but that's caused a lot more stretching.
Other than that, thank you for the advice and encouragement. 5 days until harvest, the poor Hindus are falling over from weight.
Which is awesome.
 

wolfiehowlin

New member
Sounds like you have a problem we would all like to have if your buds are too heavy, LOL I was amazed at what a difference a good, constant breeze made. My plants are low, bushy and VERY sturdy. I can't wait to see how they do in flower.

Just curious if we are in the same neighborhood. Not being nosy. I'm in CO - yay for legal personal growing! :)
 
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