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Tom Hill's Haze Anyone?

zamalito

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I just won Tom Hill's pine tar kush and haze lines from seedbay completing my collection of the 3 staples of the Tom Hill line. Has anyone grown his haze? Ogbub says its different from the hill temple haze. Any info on it would be great.
 

l_d_d

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wow, havent heard about this one for a long time. were a few threads back at OG.... I wanted to grow it out never got a chance...

looking forward to people that chime in on it...
 

zamalito

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From what I can gather is it's a columbian dominant frequently purple line that he'd acquired directly from some positronics employees who told him it was a pure haze acquired from sam.
 
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zamalito said:
From what I can gather is it's a columbian dominant frequently purple line that he'd acquired directly from some positronics employees who told him it was a pure haze acquired from sam.

hello zamalito, ive been corrected on the columbian part of your description myself bro. raco lined me out. TomHills haze is a thai leanin line, which does purple. heres a bit from tom........

I passed on the Purple Haze from Positronics, but Posi was the source
of my Haze pictured, Positronics "Original Haze". Their "Purple Haze"
was a hybrid i believe w/maybe purple#1?. You'll have to check with
Sam Skunkman as to what the other component in the Purple Haze was,
he was doing the breeding for them at the time. What folks really
want is the pure haze, but they just can't get that song out of their
heads

Best Regards,
Tom

........he had also said that 20% of a population will purple(thats with cool temps or normal temps) and 5% of those would be good plants. 6 plants done here had one purple male and one female. outcrossed 2 males(1grn/1purp) to the sourdeez and had 3 purple or pink females outta a 20 bean run(8 finished females) of sourhaze, so the male tossed the color well. was good weed, but seemed it could of been more potent.

as to the potentcy of the haze from Tom, just depends on how many good plants ya get. its tough to find a real good one outta 10 seeds. seen some cool shit in pictures and stuff like that when high off of the better plant i had.

fastest plant i had went 18 weeks, the others 20+. the sour haze was goin 15 weeks. i made another gen of straight haze, just havent gotten to um yet.

you know how them equatorial sats can be bro, one of the haze girls would only flip under 10/14, just veg along under 12/12. stretch to the heavens as well. the thick fat calyxed buds with the frost have been best.
 

Raco

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"This is what TomHill said almost 4 years ago:

"Most of the "Thai" i´ve tried in the last ten years or so was just kinda okay,not saying the goods aren´t out there,just that i haven´t been able to locate it,& i´ve turned over a few stones lookin.The closest i´ve come are selected phenos of the original haze from positronics.I´ve always thought that their haze was very heavy in thai genes,due mostly to a characteristic thai smell/flavor in a high percentage of them (+/-75%),a smell i remember from some excellent thai that some friends used to grow long ago.Although most of the reports say "mostly colombian/mexican & less south indian/thai",there´s a seemingly informed report by "Robert Clarke"(i wonder) that seems to go along with my guess of heavy in thai genes.
I bet if you grew out a few packets of the Original Haze from the Flying Dutchmen,you´d find what you´re looking for"
 

zamalito

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Thanks for the info guys. I've been looking for an old school thai perhaps I'll be able to get one among the f2's. I'm curious as to who bred these.
 
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zamalito said:
Thanks for the info guys. I've been looking for an old school thai perhaps I'll be able to get one among the f2's. I'm curious as to who bred these.

think TomHill is the only one workin the line. pretty sure the beans at seedbay are from sometime ago. mine came off Cbay.
 

zamalito

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Its hard to believe the haze bros were growing that stuff outdoors in the states but when you say they needed a 10/14 to flip it makes sense since the original latitudes of the landrace haze is composed of don't get past 13 hrs of dark if that. Hell, its only a bit more than 14/10 here on the winter solstice and I couldn't come close to finishing anything like these outside.

Raco, what's the mold resistance on the pine tar kush like? I remember you also had mold problems with the deep chunk. It didn't stand a chance in my locale.
 
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I havent had a bit of mold all season accept on mother whom had a corn borer in the stalk, the plant just withered away after that and got bud rot and power mildew, like it lost all immunity, the clone i took off it has been very mold resistant, and frost resistant, no pest problems either so far the climate has been optimal for sativas and indicas alike aside from a few bad weeks. the weather is looking good for the rest of the season too :D weve been having unusually high temps and are calling for more well into november
which usually happens we get a drought and are lucky to have any kinda of precipitation after Oct 30th untill Dec 25th when we usually get a snow.

Every year its like a guessing game on christmas as to if it will snow, i mean whats christmas without snow, some years we dont get any. It snowed twice last year lol i could hve grown thru the winter it was so mild, not even one frost in the spring
 

natefrog

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goodness Zam...nice score..........you've no doubt read Tom's "Juicyfruit" description of the PTK taste......yum.....i would have bought those also.........wanna hear a heartbreaker?........i lost 8 of 9 DC seedlings due to unexpected travel (had family in distant hospital)........only pack i've bought in at least a year....only pack i bought specifically to breed.....cry for me, friends!.....lol......was gonna spread F2's like mad as a karma building good deed.......ah, well.....i'll have to get my TH fix vicariously through your PTK and OH threads.......cool?......perhaps the one left will be a goddess...i almost hope its a boy........i was hoping to find a stud to preserve my elites with...........forgive the ramble....stoneded...nate
 

Raco

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zamalito said:
Its hard to believe the haze bros were growing that stuff outdoors in the states but when you say they needed a 10/14 to flip it makes sense since the original latitudes of the landrace haze is composed of don't get past 13 hrs of dark if that. Hell, its only a bit more than 14/10 here on the winter solstice and I couldn't come close to finishing anything like these outside.

Raco, what's the mold resistance on the pine tar kush like? I remember you also had mold problems with the deep chunk. It didn't stand a chance in my locale.
Hola Zamalito,
I think that the Haze bros were growing the Haze in greenhouses!!
Glass or domes...
The Sacred Seeds cat of 1981 or 82 reads that the Hazes listed need a greenhouse to finish in the SF bay area (or something like that)
And there were 4 O.Hazes,and the "Extra-late"(New Year´s Haze) finishing in January.Also offered "Burning Bush",a selected Haze on the Thai side,and several Haze hybs,including Nepali/Haze and others :D
And I don´t have much experience with the PTK outddors,but it´s much more mold resistant than the DC,that´s for sure....I lost half of a cola after two days of hard rain (up to 200 liters/square meter in 24 hours)...I could have harvested her,because the seeds were mature...but it was a guerrilla grow
you know what I mean...:wink:I noticed that the plant was done when it was too late :badday:
 

zamalito

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Damn, from the sound of it I need to setup a greenhouse. I'd love to have some new years haze. What you say makes sense but it's still really weird to think of a sativa that can't fully mature in an equatorial climate. I'm sure eventually it'd start to flower on the equator however huge it may get beforehand but it sounds like some phenos will keep rapidly throwing out new flowers under 12/12 until the plant dies. I'll probably never get around to it anyways but its a nice though.

One project I've always wanted to do is breed a plant that triggers into flowering early/mid spring but keeps producing multiple harvests until the plant dies. Maybe this would be a good candidate for one of the parents to breed this conceptual strain. Other possible contributors are afropips nigerian which harvests in september despite being landrace sat with a 12 week flower and flo.
 
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i put 10 of the straight haze down last night. lookin forward to how the PHaze daddy throws um.
 

RoNdO

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I want to try the old school thai hazeXsk#1 there's a grow report around here with a massive tree in some sort of hydro bucket with many many many thick donkey dicks it went a real long time for him too crazy long. F2's could bring out the thaihaze.

Edit: I would also like to give tom hills Haze a go too along with many other hazes I've got a soft spot for sativas and Hazes are the best
 
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Raco

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RoNdO said:
I want to try the old school thai hazeXsk#1 there's a grow report around here with a massive tree in some sort of hydro bucket with many many many thick donkey dicks it went a real long time for him too crazy long. F2's could bring out the thaihaze.

Edit: I would also like to give tom hills Haze a go too along with many other hazes I've got a soft spot for sativas and Hazes are the best

According to Cervantes,TFD´s Thaitanic was the highest yielder out of 118 dutch (and N American) strains grown in a greenhouse in the area of Medellín
3 meters tall and an average yield of 750 grams per plant.:D
 

zamalito

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That's some beautiful land raco. That cervantes article you refer to is one of my atf's from high times.
 

RoNdO

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Well I ordered the OSTHxSk#1 last night I'm gonna make f2s for the hell of it with my best girl if i make enough seed SB will see some for freebies then we can all look for the OSTH together.
 
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