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led05

Chasing The Present
Hempy this is a Great observation on your part , Myself and Several others do Agree Posi Haze to be Different in Several Aspects. It's been spoke of for Some Time

Early as in Finishing time compared to the other Haze lines , Yes

I'm curious Considering your love of Thai and Recent findings with Tom's Haze line that's Thai Heavy .

In your Opinion How does it compare to the
Thai Heavy Haze Traits from Nevil ?

Both Haze Genetics both Thai leaning , Shouldn't the Thai in both lines come from the same source or be the exact line or Thai Clone from (Sams), soo they should have similarities

Something i don't believe has been touched on at All

I'm curious to hear All opinions ( Especially Thai lovers / Growers)

Considering POSI HAZE & Nevilles Haze's are Associated with Thai . Both coming from the same source . Possibly the same Thai Clone

What Traits produced are Soo SIMILAR or Soo Different ?

1luvbigherb
what about the infamous A5T that simply used to be the A5, my guess is it was A5T much longer than just A5.....
 

led05

Chasing The Present
This seems interesting. Is this in reference to what is said to be the last cross in the Haze Bros haze? Late 69? Was it a Thai clone they used? Mad macs was collected before that? I have heard and read the stories, but it is still confusing at times. Was it one specific Tribe and region that was going the best/real Thai at that time?
Mac got his "haze" from Golli which is from the banks back in the day, I have a bag of them too prior to all the additional work...... BUT It's still just haze with additional selections along the ways, personally I think Toms haze got a wee bit of DC in it along the ways but that talk in here is Blasphemy but I still hold that opinion having grown all of them..... in the end, again whom cares, grow them out select the ones you love, too much haze nostalgia and not enough folk growing & selected on them, keeping them as open as possible without continuing their terrible inbreeding depression by selfing single plants......

Much love yall
 

harvestreaper

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Mac got his "haze" from Golli which is from the banks back in the day, I have a bag of them too prior to all the additional work...... BUT It's still just haze with additional selections along the ways, personally I think Toms haze got a wee bit of DC in it along the ways but that talk in here is Blasphemy but I still hold that opinion having grown all of them..... in the end, again whom cares, grow them out select the ones you love, too much haze nostalgia and not enough folk growing & selected on them, keeping them as open as possible without continuing their terrible inbreeding depression by selfing single plants......

Much love yall

dont think golli only source of macs haze,, jonny chicago to,, iseem to remember two or 3 sources in the mix of his release
 
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Farmer John

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Thinking about that thai influence now at least in the Amsterdam scene haze crosses and such, many had that thai smell&taste, still have. Tom's was very different and I really love to see him work thai into his haze. I believe that his haze was/is from before the thai was introduced but what do I know. I had both DC and THH back in the day, didnt see any signs of them being mixed back in 2006 or so but who knows. Who cares. All the hazes I have grown have been different but same in so many ways. Perfect. Lovely sativas. Even the shitty ones.
 

led05

Chasing The Present

dont think golli only source of macs haze,, jonny chicago to,, iseem to remember two or 3 sources in the mix of his release

correct I just know what happened well before any sales took place BUT all lead back to the same banks though was more my point - i.e. they aren't holding some magical 1960/70's Haze beans they bulked but beans bought from the banks in the 90's/00's & passed @.... that said Mac later had his visits with Sam so whom knows what Sam had, I do know every time anyone visited Sam he loved to bust out that huge ziplock full of seed, I'm pretty sure that didn't lengthen their longevity... That said If SamS still had the magical quality haze seed from the 1960's/70's he would have sold them years ago after doing a proper bulking, IMO, it only makes sense....

Interesting tidbit, some folk involved in this story the first time they EVER made seed was within the past 7 years, be careful whom you hold on a pedestal and the hype attached to cannabis seeds, always.... ;)
 

harvestreaper

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correct I just know what happened well before any sales took place BUT all lead back to the same banks though was more my point - i.e. they aren't holding some magical 1960/70's Haze beans they bulked but beans bought from the banks in the 90's/00's & passed @.... that said Mac later had his visits with Sam so whom knows what Sam had, I do know every time anyone visited Sam he loved to bust out that huge ziplock full of seed, I'm pretty sure that didn't lengthen their longevity... That said If SamS still had the magical quality haze seed from the 1960's/70's he would have sold them years ago after doing a proper bulking, IMO, it only makes sense....

Interesting tidbit, some folk involved in this story the first time they EVER made seed was within the past 7 years, be careful whom you hold on a pedestal and the hype attached to cannabis seeds, always.... ;)
i can respect what big herb has done researching an documenting etc could make a good book ,, but for me all that matters is now and whats in my joint lol i always think sam must be sitting there reading these threads lhao at all the fuss over a few hemp seeds lol,
 

exoticrobotic

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Interesting tidbit, some folk involved in this story the first time they EVER made seed was within the past 7 years, be careful whom you hold on a pedestal and the hype attached to cannabis seeds, always.... ;)

As long as it's not lazyass S1's to tired old clones just for the money it's good in my book.

Lots of variety to be found within the different haze lines and traits that maybe can be fixed and it's such lines i would buy from seed, irrespective of the length of time someone has been making seed.

What is more important to me is seeing evidence that the seed maker is actually trying the product of their seeds and unless reproducing a line is actually working towards something... A specific trait or actual nuanced high.
 

mexcurandero420

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StickyBandit

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How will you be selecting males? How many? Etc
I'll be using everything for the first seed increase, I don't want to be bottlenecking the line. I have the males separated for now until they all start dropping together then I'll give the girls a good dusting
Maybe later I'll reveg the boys and hit them with florel and do some selection for a "Superhaze" :p
I also have beans from a couple of other sources I might do another separate line later...
 

flower~power

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I'll be using everything for the first seed increase, I don't want to be bottlenecking the line. I have the males separated for now until they all start dropping together then I'll give the girls a good dusting
Maybe later I'll reveg the boys and hit them with florel and do some selection for a "Superhaze" :p
I also have beans from a couple of other sources I might do another separate line later...
good luck !
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