To Clone Or Not To Clone - Root Rot Plant

[GreenThumb14]

OK, I started 4 fem'd chronic seeds a few weeks ago in a DWC setup. They ended up falling ill to root rot and I flushed the dwc systems, bathed the roots, added h2o2, sm-90... Root rot came back, repeat previous steps, tried beneficial bacteria, etc... Just kept coming back. The bacteria found a home in the hydroton and in the rapid rooter cubes and it just wasn't going away. The plants now are stunted and 2 of them have lost 95% of their original root system.

To make it worse I thought I had finally gotten rid of it after several days of healthy clean looking roots but alas, last night I took a look and found nice little clear snot balls forming on the roots of the largest plant again. FUCK!!!

I know why it came about to begin with, I foolishly mixed in some organic additives to a non-organic system. The water temps were coming up to 76f by the end of the light cycle as well. I've been using ice bottles for the past few days while I complete my chiller build and I have a canister filter with UV sterilizer arriving tomorrow. I ran UV and mechanical (foam filter) filtration on my last DWC and had zero issues... I thought I could get away without it this time and I was wrong.

So at this point I've decided to scrap these plants. It will simply take too long for them to recover. On the bright side, the one plant is pretty large and grew very vigorously and even though it's growth is now quite slow it is still healthy looking. The sad news is that it has a dense root mat near the net pot and I simply cannot clean all of the decaying organic matter out of it. I believe this to be the source of reoccurring root rot in that dwc bin now - since the water is fresh, h2o2 & sm-90 treated and kept below 70f with multiple ice bottle changes per day.

Here is what I'm facing...

I have 8 Serious Seeds White Russian beans which are about 2yrs old. They are not feminized. I don't have room to veg 8 WR's for 30 days to find out what is what. I have 2x 9 gallon plastic bin containers for my DWC setup in a 3x6' tent.

So, should I take clones from the one healthy and well developed Chronic plant before tossing her and try to go with that? It's from a fem seed, so the clones should all be female.... I'd love to do the WR but not knowing their sex until flowering is a big problem.

Would really appreciate some advice here!

 

[WelderDan]

Take clones, should be no issue

 

[Snook]

OK, I started 4 fem'd chronic seeds a few weeks ago in a DWC setup. They ended up falling ill to root rot and I flushed the dwc systems, bathed the roots, added h2o2, sm-90... Root rot came back, repeat previous steps, tried beneficial bacteria, etc... Just kept coming back. The bacteria found a home in the hydroton and in the rapid rooter cubes and it just wasn't going away. The plants now are stunted and 2 of them have lost 95% of their original root system.

To make it worse I thought I had finally gotten rid of it after several days of healthy clean looking roots but alas, last night I took a look and found nice little clear snot balls forming on the roots of the largest plant again. FUCK!!!

I know why it came about to begin with, I foolishly mixed in some organic additives to a non-organic system. The water temps were coming up to 76f by the end of the light cycle as well. I've been using ice bottles for the past few days while I complete my chiller build and I have a canister filter with UV sterilizer arriving tomorrow. I ran UV and mechanical (foam filter) filtration on my last DWC and had zero issues... I thought I could get away without it this time and I was wrong.

So at this point I've decided to scrap these plants. It will simply take too long for them to recover. On the bright side, the one plant is pretty large and grew very vigorously and even though it's growth is now quite slow it is still healthy looking. The sad news is that it has a dense root mat near the net pot and I simply cannot clean all of the decaying organic matter out of it. I believe this to be the source of reoccurring root rot in that dwc bin now - since the water is fresh, h2o2 & sm-90 treated and kept below 70f with multiple ice bottle changes per day.

Here is what I'm facing...

I have 8 Serious Seeds White Russian beans which are about 2yrs old. They are not feminized. I don't have room to veg 8 WR's for 30 days to find out what is what. I have 2x 9 gallon plastic bin containers for my DWC setup in a 3x6' tent.

So, should I take clones from the one healthy and well developed Chronic plant before tossing her and try to go with that? YES It's from a fem seed, so the clones should all be female.... I'd love to do the WR but not knowing their sex until flowering is a big problem.

Would really appreciate some advice here!

Clone, yes. and if you continue with this hobby, one day you'll be happy to have a nice male. BUT...Best yields will come in 2nd or 3rd run of a strain, most times anyway. ***If one sprouts 2 regular seeds, veges, takes ??? 2-3 clone from both to root, sucess at 80-95% isnt hard to obtain. Then you put the 2 mother seedlings into bloom. by the time you find out that one is a male and the other female, you should have 2-3 rooted clones of each plant, discard the male 'mother' and its clones and tranplant the female clones. if both are males, bend over and start again. if both female, transplant some of both. if you run the seedlings straight away (I did first time) and only 3 turn out to be girls, you'll be happy anyway but take the clones.. if its killer weed, you dont want to start over again immediatly. althogh there are those who run seed only, so what do I know.

OH yes, get chiller.

 

[GreenThumb14]

I figured clones would be the best. I am moving to an MMJ friendly state in a few months so I want to do 1 run with these now and then when I move I'll definitely be setting up a nursery, separate veg/flower spaces, etc. Working within the confines of my living situation right now - and it's not easy because the humidity in this place naturally stays VERY low. Typically sub 20% and it's not uncommon to see it as low as 5% when the heat is on.

I'm building my own 1/10hp chiller and it'll be done this week and I'll be keeping nute temps at 65-67f. That'll be combined with mechanical filtration and UV sterilization.

OK, so for now I am going to get a few gallon plastic bin and do a fogponic cloner setup, since I have a spare ultrasonic fogger and see that they work very well. In fact, my last grow I used DWC w/ fogger and developed crazy fast heavy branching root development.

I'll get a humidity dome on the cloner, as well. Keep it hot and wet in there. Sound good?

 

[GreenThumb14]

What do clones typically look like the day after taking them? Most of mine are drooped over pretty hardcore and a couple are up looking happier...

**** Never mind. I misted the cuttings and the walls of the humidity dome and they began perking up and now they all look like happy little trees.