Tips Pointing Down(pics)

[PurpDiesel 87]

So i have just put these clones under a 400w light and the tips of some of the leaves are beginning to point down, and i dont know what the problem could be
400w mh at 32'' from the tops
10 gallon rez
ph 5.6-5.8
pureblend pro at 1/3 strength
10 ml of calmag plus
2 40 gallon air pumps going to 4 air disks
its DWC

Got any ideas

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

bump anyone

 

[ackuric]

you make sure that you let the clones root sufficiently? i'd check your water level in your bucket and observe where the tip of your root is atm, from what i hear in dwc starting out a clone you want it above the water 1/2 to an inch, and let it grow into the bucket. just a few things for you to check out, good luck. A little droop is also nothing to have a big concern with after moving clones, maybe spray em downor increase humidity if its lower than 60-70% in the room, as the first few days after being transplanted/moved can be rough on clones with such minimal root structure. how long have they been drooping/whats their age?

 

[MynameStitch]

I can bet the TDS is strong, that is a lot of cal mag you are using....
you using tap water or RO water?
What is the TDS/PPM of your system?
What is the water temps?
What is the pH?
Pictures would really help, since you did not give a lot of details about your grow.

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

the clone are about 1 week and a couple days, they have a root system starting to build up, the roots are white and from what i have read thats good. I have been usung distilled and 1/3 strength so i dont know if it the TDS its reading around 300ppm.The water temps vary at night they go to 65 and while lights are on it goes to about 75

 

[B4O2N0G]

Im pretty sure thats nitrogen toxicity,lower your nutrients a little more.I think I see on the the last pic yellowing on the edges of the leaf which can be a sign of overferting.10ml of calmag seems like too much for a plant that young,so it could be from calmag overferting too.Its always better to use less than too much.goodluck

 

[MynameStitch]

75 temps will cause the small droop look they have, 75 is a warning sign, keep those temps down to about 70 top and 65 the lowest.

High temps have less o2 levels so keep it down.

300 ppms is this is what your TDS pen is reading? 300 for that size of a plant is a little low...... but I will have to agree with B4O, the amount of cal mag is too high, decrease it to no more than 4 ml/4 liters of water (almost 1 tsp per gallon of water.....)
What pen do you have?
You also did not list what pH your plants are at.

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

K ill lower the cal mag im gonna flush today or tomorrow, and the PH right now is at 5.8 i checked it this morning. It could also be from the fact that the rez water is almost 2 weeks old, ill try to get the rez water down to during the middle of the day. Ill let you know how it goes. It was weird though because they grrow about half a inch last night. IDK ill try that stuff

 

[MynameStitch]

From the pics you posted I don't see much of problem, but the informstion you gave is why I spoke up so you will avoid the problem

Yes, you are supposed to flush at least once every week to 2 weeks tops to ensure salt buildup is removed, when you feed your plants, the plants leave stuff they don't use and buildup causes issues.

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

Stitch i thnak you for all the helpful info i got my rez temp down to about 70 an they are growing amazingly. I'm gonna flush them tomorrow and put new nutz, im gonna put 30mL of pureblend Pro grow for a 10 gallon rez and only 10mL of calmag for the whole rez(instead of my previous amount).

Does this all sound good.

 

[MynameStitch]

Oh, I would not use that amount, I would use half the amount 30 ml is a huge dose...... 1 week and a few days, that would = high ppms, I would use around 15 ml of pro and start there.

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

well i tried 25mL instead of 30 so we will see and i didnt add any calmag just yet. They look to be doing pretty well. How long till they show whether its to much or not enough? And thats still 1/2 the dosage for seedlings and cuttings listed on the bottle i will flush them if they need it but they seem to be flourishing.

 

[MynameStitch]

/me smacks head!

I said 15, not 25, hopefully you do not burn them dude..... with the size they are your mixture may be too much.

You should always start low and work your way up, you could always add more later, but if you add too much you either have to add more water, or dump and add more nutrients which is lost time and money.

You do NOT want to listen to the directions on the bottle, period, unless cannabis made nutrients.

You will know soon if it is too much, since all strains are different and different tolerance to nutrients, it's best to start out low and work your way up slowly.

I would add the cal mag if I were you, theu will start to show problems, in order for each nutrient to work properly they all have to have a balance, with you adding the nutrients with no micros and using distilled water your plants will show problems very soon.

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

thanks alot for they helpful advice they seem to doing pretty well no leaf tips burned yet... and hopefully none ever. ill add about 5 mL of calmag to the 10 gallon rez, ill try to keep a close eye on them and let you know. I tried to lower the light by 2 inches and i caught some leaf edges curling up so i raised it back up.

thanks again for the help ill put up some pics

 

[PurplePotion]

Are you using Liquid Karma? If not, I suggest getting some. It's the perfect compliment to PBP.

 

[PurpDiesel 87]

nice i was planing on getting some tomorrow and should i use it as a foliar spray paired with penetrator or put the liquid karma into the rez? thanks Purp

 

[fulfilldadreem]

you have the claw...mos def a nitrogen toxicity. Just ease up on the nutes, they dont need much cal mag at this stage.

 

[PurplePotion]

nice i was planing on getting some tomorrow and should i use it as a foliar spray paired with penetrator or put the liquid karma into the rez? thanks Purp

I've always used LK in my nutrient solution-- never as a foliar. Just add it in with the rest of your stuff. The PBP contains your macro nutrients, and some others. LK is mainly all of your micro nutrients, amino acids, etc. I've gone by the bottle's dosage instructions, and never had any problems.