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Timing Flush

dorje

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Should I begin 2 weeks before the hypothetical finish date or use some other clues like the trichomes beginning to amber?
 
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OrganicOzarks

Why would you flush a soil grow?

Do farmers flush their vegetables two weeks before harvest?:)
 

Jnugg

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If he's using synthetics,he'll want to flush.If 100% organic then no need for flushing.

Dorje - I like to check the plants 2 weeks before breeders finishing times and see what they are doing at that time so for me it all depends.
 

dorje

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I've got some Blueberry clones that started to show a sprinkling of amber and maybe 50/50 cloudy and clear trichomes at 6 weeks (a 6 to 8 week strain); hairs are pretty much all brown on the tops of the colas.. After a weeks flush the leaves are turning yellow and there's a few more amber trichomes; but not 50/50 by anymeans. Going to wait until most if not all trichomes have turned cloudy. So another 3 or 4 days to a week.
Now I'm growing in amazon bloom soil this time with half the grow using earth juice nutes, the other half general organic. The reason I'm flushing this time - was not satisfied with the taste - seemed kind of harsh last grow. General organic and earth juice feeding schedules do call for a flush.
 
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trichster

Why would you flush a soil grow?

Do farmers flush their vegetables two weeks before harvest?:)

The farmers around here fly over there crops with helicopters and spread fertilizer and pesticides 1 last time months before harvest. So yeah i would say farmers flush or fade out there crops naturally with rain

To OP yes you want to fade out your plants for 3 weeks for best taste and bring out the true essence of the plant. Plain water only...

To all you doubters grab your ppm pen and check the runoff of your plants. You will see that even with 3 weeks of plain water that the pot will still have some food in there or better yet check your nonfaded plants that are finishing with high ppm that are all shiny green when finish and smoke harsh and doesnt ever leave a white ash.
 

Jnugg

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I've got some Blueberry clones that started to show a sprinkling of amber and maybe 50/50 cloudy and clear trichomes at 6 weeks (a 6 to 8 week strain); hairs are pretty much all brown on the tops of the colas.. After a weeks flush the leaves are turning yellow and there's a few more amber trichomes; but not 50/50 by anymeans. Going to wait until most if not all trichomes have turned cloudy. So another 3 or 4 days to a week.
Now I'm growing in amazon bloom soil this time with half the grow using earth juice nutes, the other half general organic. The reason I'm flushing this time - was not satisfied with the taste - seemed kind of harsh last grow. General organic and earth juice feeding schedules do call for a flush.

From your description,let them go at least the full 8 weeks and take another look.Either harvest at the end of the 8th week,or let go until the end of the 9th week.
 

RonSmooth

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The element that ends up in the plant is the same whether its derived from "synthetic" fertilizer or organic fertilizer. There isn't "organic" nitrogen and "synthetic" nitrogen etc.

I think flushing in order to "cleanse" the plant tissue is bunk. It is effective for clearing excess salt buldup from the medium in containers.

While I agree that flushing is unnecessary, the reason farmers wouldn't flush their crops because they aren't being grown in containers so it is unlikely that there would be a buildup of toxic salts.
 

dorje

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Most of the advice I get is to use plain low ppm water or ro water. Earth Juice recommends flushing for 2 weeks with their catalyst plus hibrix molasses. 1tbl catalyst to 3tbls molasses per gal.
 

EclipseFour20

aka "Doc"
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I don't flush--but I do "saturate" the soil with 1.5 gallons MO water 7 days before harvest for these reasons:
1. Increase in the plant sap Brix.
2. Buds plump up.

Two step routine: 1/2 gallon is first poured to moisten the soil/roots--then 15 minutes later remaining 1 gallon is dumped. The MO runoff is used in my outside veggie garden--and lawn.

I pay $25 or so for 5 gallon bucket of MO--so running 1.5 gallons of MO water for each container is not cost prohibitive.

Studies have concluded water deficits prior to harvest...can actually increase the quality of the fruit/flower--with only a slight decrease in weight. And studies have also concluded that MO applications--Brix levels of the plant's sap will increase. (Not saying the plant ingests MO...just saying it is common knowledge that after applications of MO--the Brix level of plants will usually increase....period).

Cheers!
 

Granger2

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In coco, indoors, in containers, which is a different ball game than soil, flushing has improved my organic bud, better taste/smell, smoother smoke that burns to a white ash. I wait till the trichomes noticeably swell, flush with lots of runoff, then plain pH'd water for a week or so. Before I start, I've already hit them with mostly sugars [MO, pwd. extra dark Barley malt] for a week. Do as you wish. Do a side by side. See what works for you. Good luck. -granger
 
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kathmandu

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do farmers smoke their veggies? we are growing a different product here.
gotta go with what Trichster and Granger said...
Organic container grows benefit from flushing. My best tasting and smoothest smoking plants were ones that were fed with excess plain water towards the end. You know you've done it right when fan leaves have yellowed and fallen off in the last week. Less nitrogen and salts in the finished buds the better, regardless of whether you used synthetics or organics.
 

Ise

Member
You don't "flush" when growing organics, you simply water the last 2-3 weeks with no additives.

Peace
Ise
 

3oShivaRider

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If you're growing with nutrients from a bottle, water with plain water 3 weeks before harvest, and flush for the last 2 weeks. If you're not using nutrients from a bottle (pure organic, like bone meal, blood meal, manure, etc.) then you don't need to flush at all, you're probably watering it with water all the way through anyways.
 

3oShivaRider

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Hey Dorje let go all confusions over flushing...Precisely follow the instructions given by the nutrient brand. Ideally, you can start flushing 2 weeks before harvest, nonetheless the best is to follow their recommendation. All the best buddy!
 

vostok

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Should I begin 2 weeks before the hypothetical finish date or use some other clues like the trichomes beginning to amber?

I do mine 5-7 days before harvest, and I grow in organics, really depends on weather, and I do flush 3 times the volume of the pot with air temp. Ph neutral water.

This is demanded by many of my 'friends' who really don't like the competitions DWC crap,

....Oh yes I re-cycle 75% of my soils for the next grow ...lol wink wink !!!
 

floralheart

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I do mine 5-7 days before harvest, and I grow in organics, really depends on weather, and I do flush 3 times the volume of the pot with air temp. Ph neutral water.

This is demanded by many of my 'friends' who really don't like the competitions DWC crap,

....Oh yes I re-cycle 75% of my soils for the next grow ...lol wink wink !!!

I don't like the competitions DWC either, I think most of it should be automatically priced as mids. The pros can price accordingly, but most people aren't pros.
 

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