Thought this was temp related but???

[NiceShoes]

So this is the story...

Vegged for 2 week under a t-5 then went under a 1000 watt w/ cool tube (temps never went above 80ºF) But the leaves curled a bit, had some strange burning tips of the leafs. New growth would appear dead/burnt, then would grow out w/ missing tips or single blade leafs (you could tell it wanted 9 but the other 8 where burnt).

I feed them very lightly, one teaspoon per gallon maybe once a week (Would water from 1-3 times a week just if they need it).

The older fan leafs would have cracks in them, the newer fan leafs would gave holes and/or no edges.

Water PH'd to 5.8-6.2 NEVER higher and NEVER lower... Soil run off comes to eh... 7.0 if I remember correctly.

Feed FF Grow big, soil: FFOFS.

Treated them with Floramite.

RH was at the time between 35-40. Them moved back under the t-5 for 2 more weeks, not a lot of new growth after the move so I cannot tell you how the reacted to it.

I chopped the females into clones once they showed preflowers.... Some of my clones from week 4 though where put into flowering and switched back when donors showed sex. Well, some of the clones are showing the burning tips.. THey where never fed anything, just chilling in a small cup w/ FFOFS. Root growth is ok on them... Just the tips of the leaf where dry, then grew out w/ no tips...

Will get pics of the clones up soon, here are older pics of the donors

 

[NiceShoes]

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[MynameStitch]

Is this growed outdoors? Newer growth should never come out burnt.... as for the single bladed issue, this happens and totally gene related and it ends up correcting itself after a few more nodes put on above the single bladed leaf issue.

That looks more like something has chewed your plants....

Now the curling of the leaves looks like heat issue, not temps, but the light powerful enough to cause heat in an area and the light should be moved up.

Also going from T5 into 1,000 hps is a lot, you mostly want to adjust them to the stronger lighting rather than putting them into the sun.

You would not waiting a dark closet only to open it up and the sun was at your doorstep would ya?

Do you have any pets? For holes that big you will be seeing this pest that is eating up your plants.

What soil are you using and what are you using to test your soil pH?

How big are these plants? What brand of soil?

 

[NiceShoes]

I have the yellow Milwaukee meter, ph only one.
Fox farm ocean forest.
It had that problem as as long as it was in new growth. The new growth appears to be fine once it gets larger, but it's comes out dry/brown leaves, then dead tips fall off and there are either short leafs and grows into larger stunted looking leafs. OR it devlops w/ the holes or missing edges or single bladed. But single bladed mind you is a full leaf, just all the other blades where chewed or burnt off...

Plants never put outside. I sprayed all walls before they went into that room with Phantom SC (Pretty hardcore pesticide, not over the counter shit... thanks ebay). And treated the plants twice with floramite and safe soap.

I have never noticed a pest and let me tell you, I have looked. Never a fly or bug... I have seen a few dead bugs in the room (a lot of yellow jackets for some reason) but they were probably sucked up from the negative pressure and they vented through the attic vents.

But that pesticide is burly shit, I sprayed the doorways in my house and every night within a 3 foot radius is dead spiders, pill bugs, earwigs and everything else. It is surprising how many bugs come thru your front door. I am upgrading the weather stripping lol.

 

[MynameStitch]

You have a picture of the growths coming out the colors you are referring too?
You have any pets? Cause something ate those leaves man
Something got in there and left then,. You check with microscope by any chance? It's a short chance there is something there, but always good to double check. But ya I think whatever ate that up is gone then cause it had to be fairly big to chew holes like that.

 

[NiceShoes]

You have a picture of the growths coming out the colors you are referring too?
You have any pets? Cause something ate those leaves man
Something got in there and left then,. You check with microscope by any chance? It's a short chance there is something there, but always good to double check. But ya I think whatever ate that up is gone then cause it had to be fairly big to chew holes like that.

I do have some pets Bro but but no animal can access that room.. it's not part of the house... maybe a mouse or a rat or something but even then... you should see all the glue boards, mouse traps and rodent bait I got around the room...

Here is a Male clone... very difficult to tell but if you look close you can see how the new growth has stubby leaves.... not every leaf, only a couple (sorry it's so hard to tell) You can also notice there is a couple single blade leafs (not deformed, just chewed/burnt).


This is a female clone. I topped it. Notice on the right (our right) budlet has a brown thing coming from it? That would be the dead leaf tip. Everything lower of that turns lush and green! It's so strange.




Thanks for the help! I am sorry the pics are bad, I am learning how to take macro's.... I will try some better ones later, gonna bail for a couple days.... will take more when I return... damn mother in law drives me nuts....


THANKS!
Peace Bro,
NiceShoes

 

[MynameStitch]

The first picture that is a mutation, can't do anything about that, the topped picture I can't really see what you mean, besides the stem browning, if you are talking about that, that is normal when you top as long as it does not spread and use clean cutting tools when you cut...... completely sanitized tools.

lol my mother in law came to visit as well, just leaving today lol

If that stem is not what you are talking about then I can't see it in that picture....... if you got a different one cause from that topped picture why did you top it so short anyways?

 

[NiceShoes]

I'm going to try and get better pics when I come back...

Thanks Bro

 

[jm420]

stich is female

 

[NiceShoes]

Oh my gosh! What is this? Whatever it is, it is selective. Not all my plants suffer from this issue but wtf is it??? I am convinced it's a pest, something chewing the leaves. However, it's not mammalian. Some kind of bug. I noticed the same damage on one of my basil plants. Inspecting the leaves I see nothing... I did find a moth, that looked someone like an indian-meal moth. It was flapping it's wings very fast, however, unable to fly. Now that I think about it, I have seen them several times before... just thought they where the IMM, but now looking closer they are not the same thing. They appear to be common in the area (there is almost always one in my car, they are in the house for sure, in the shop, and in the garage.

Could this be the culprit? Moths don't eat leaves.... their larva do though... but wouldn't I be able to see them? I'm gonna try and capture one to take a pic of it.... will try and get better pics of the issues.

NiceShoes

 

[Mister Postman]

moths, and certain kinds of wasps/bees/y jackets can, and will eat plant leaves as well. This spring I was absolutely shocked at how strong wasps jaws are, and how easily they tore a leaf apart with them. I'm talking big ol chunks at a time