Theory on a New way to grow, come give your opinion!!

[Levitikuz]

Let me know what you think about this....
Take a nice size pot, lets say a 3 gallon pot no less....and seperating it completely in half by like a plastic piece (air tight) so no you have 1.5 gallons on each side...you fill one side up with soil and the other up with your favorite hydroponic medium ie: expanded clay pebbles...

Now you plant your clone directly in the middle of the pot, and you know for a fact the roots of your clone will grow on both sides of the pot, half its roots on the soil side and half its roots on the clay pebble side...

Now if you never watered the clay pebble side half of your roots will always be in enough oxygen for the whole plant while the other half is in soil and you would be able to water it alot more and i would think never have to worry about overwatering because half of the plants roots are ALWAYS in oxygen filled caly pebbles....

So now you can basically take away the risk of getting any type of root rot and you wouldnt have to worry about water temps and if you think about it your PH could flux alot more....

I dont know if im missing anything to this therory but ANY comments and additions to this are WELCOME!

We are always focusing on putting ALL are roots into one certain medium...but if we split the roots in half..and 1 half focused just on water and nutes and the other half just focused on oxygen...then you could never over water and you would always have enough oxygen...
If Half of your roots are soaking up all the oxygen they can get then the other half in soil could be wet 24/7 with no worries if a pump is going to fail...or if the res temps are getting to high...because the other half of the roots are bathing in all the oxygen the plant can get...

And im not saying it has to be soil and clay pebbles it could ultimitley be all the same medium ie: all clay pebbles but if you focues half of its roots just on oxygen and half on water and nutes then you would seem to eliminate almost all the problems regular hydroponics runs into...and if you used all soil you would get the explosive growth that hydroponics brings...because you utilizing the same idea of hydroponics and what makes them grow alot faster...

 

[Guest]

Thats pretty good there Lev...i am going to do this with soil on both sides separating the sides with lexan. When its time to repot i will just remove the lexan. No transplant shock!Excellent idea!

 

[Levitikuz]

Ahh i get what you are saying, i was talking about seperating the pot vertically not horizontally, but i understand what your saying and thats why I LOVE THIS SITE...because i wasnt even thinking of that way at all but thats genious!
You fill a 3 gallon pot up 1/3 then put a piece of lexon, then fill up another 1/3 put another piece of lexon then fill it up all the way, then the seedling or clone now only has 1 gallon to grow, then you remove the 1st piece and it opens up another gallon of soil and its just like transplanting but NO shock at all because you not removing it from one container to another!! and then so on and remove the next piece when it would be rdy to transplant again!!
See that brodens this new thoery even more!!
man i think i might have come up with somthing that could spawn into serveral "new" growing techniques!!
please anyone with any input to add to this please chime in!

 

[Levitikuz]

I really think if we seperated the roots 1 side to get oxygen and other half to get water and nutes, i think you could find a way to maxamize the total intake of oxygen and water and nutes through the roots of a the plant...i think if we did several test grows on different ways to do it we could get faster growth this way then with most hydroponic systems....

And without the worries of any pumps going out, res. temps, and that equals less electric use with pumps, no need for $600 chillers.

And if it comes down to it ill end up doin all the tests but it may take awhile because i dont have much room to much that many, but i firmly believe that this theory could create a whole new "techniqe" of growing.

 

[Guest]

I think that all roots need both not half and half.You never know what works till you try it.

 

[budvapor]

my guess would be that no roots would grow on the dry side in the first place... but it's good to think outside the box!

 

[Mr Celsius]

I like your innovation... but don't really see a point in this. If root rot is your real concern, its unlikely it will happen in soil and there are plenty of preventative measures in hydro that can assure no rot.

I don't think your going to see faster growth with this method... with that being said, the novelty of the idea would be fun.

 

[3dDream]

Levitikuz it is an interesting idea. If plants process water/food on a cellular level then I'd say you are shot down. I think it is a localized process. I enjoy being wrong just as much being right. I hope you are right... 1/2 the soil, hell yah!!

 

[Levitikuz]

well im going to try it in the nest 2 months for sure and see what happens...what the hell right?
Ill definetly post my results on Icmag as usual =]
Thanks for not totally flaming my idea!! lol
Wish me luck, hopefully i can try this in about 2 weeks time

 

[Trancerdancer]

It seems like by trying to combine soil and hydro you'd end up with the worst of both worlds. The roots on the hydro side would do nothing b/c there are no nutes on that side. The roots on the soil side could still rot. So you don't gain anything and you lose a whole lot.

If you do it though I'll watch to see what happens. The only way to know is if you try...

Ever think of soil on the top and hydro on the bottom? Like a gallon of soil then a net pot that dips into a dwc bubbler. But again I think you'd end up worse than a well working soil system or a well dialed in hydro system.

 

[thecrackaddict]

i think that you would be depriving half your plants roots of nutrients unless you did have somekind of hydrosystem on the hydro half only.

 

[chosen]

I think that it will work okay. Yet, I don't think it will grow any faster than hydro. You could do a soilless media thing and probably have it work as well. Like Hempy buckets...

 

[sophisto]

Soma's planter boxes kinda work on the same idea but they are divided in thirds horizontally. There are tubes in each corner of the planter giving air to the bottom of the medium.
He has hydroton pebbles on the bottom, plastic covered chicken wire on top of that and then his soil mix.

Half and half vertically....Hmmmm well you know what brotha, I say go for it as you already are planning to. Definitely post your findings as I am curious..

What about lining the outside of your pot with the pebbles, and then inserting a smaller cocoa pot inside and fill that with soil.. the roots will eventually grow to the outside of the pot and you will achieve the same thing without potentially drying out the dry side of the roots and loosing root mass....??? Just a thought??

I also like the low shock transplant method listed above, great idea.....

 

[GrassRoots]

hey lev, interesting idea...My thoughts are if the roots on the soil side are overwatered that they can still face whatever problems that come from overwatering and the roots on the side with the clay pellets just won't grow because they need moisture to be able to survive. It's my understanding that roots cannot survive in an area without moisture. I still think you should try it though because you have nothing to lose and knowledge to gain.

 

[new-n-scured]

i think that the plant would naturaly follow the nutrients and only grow on that side. m

 

[Vdro]

ohhh yeah i remember seeing this in skunk magazine.

this process has been done by hans at "skunk" magazine....he says he "developed the process to grow u.s. dept. of agriculture 100% organic certified tomatoes"

he roots in rockwool and then has square pots: half soil half perlite...

its a 2 page article in the skunk mag that came out 1.5 months ago that talks about it...vol. 3 issue 4 the hydro heaven issue

 

[khaleel]

any pics of an attempt?

any pics of an attempt?

hi levitikus, just checked out this grow and was wondering if you've gotten anywhere yet. sounds like a great idea. honestly, plants are amazing, highly-adaptable creatures. i wouldn't be surprised to see it make the most out of everything available, even if it was two different mediums. give it a shot.

 

[Levitikuz]

Nah i havent had time or room to try it, i wish i did, i didnt even know a magazine had a issue on it, i wonder how that grow went in the mag. i wish i could find that mag somwhere and read about it.
anyone know how that grow went in the magazine?

 

[Vdro]

it wasnt a grow actually, the guy was just explaining the method of how it could be done, it didnt go into deep deep detail..the only plant it showed was how to place cuttings

it was basically 2 square pots next to each other, and in the middle where the 2 or side by side there is little 1.5x1.5 groove cut out so a rooted cutting in rockwool goes right inbetween...

so it was actually 2 diff pots (each w/ a diff medium: soilerlite) sitting side by side