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the shanti baba vids

Delta9-THC

from the mists and the shadows .... there you wil
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just wondering where the shanti baba vids gone from You-tube

I cant find it ... anyone with a link much appreciated : )

Peace
 
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Shantibab vids? Since when?

Hmmmm...I would be interested in seeing them as well.
 

Delta9-THC

from the mists and the shadows .... there you wil
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thanks herbal ... I was looking for ages : )


anyone else got some vid links ?

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Got I love this site. Some time ago I did a you tube search and came across this really cool guy with good energy named Scott Blakey of Greenhouse seeds. This was yrs ago when I had no idea of the world of breeding and legends :joint: . Well of course now I know of Arjan but wondered who this Scott Blakey was and why he took all the credit when Arjan's the real man. :bashhead: LOL. Well a little IC search and its found. The man, the myth the legend. Shanti Baba=Scott Blakey :spank: !?!? Holy shit it makes so much sense now. Sorry if this is old news to you veterans but I just had one of the AHA! moments. Thanks IC
 
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PhenoMenal

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calyxlover said:
Well of course now I know of Arjan but wondered who this Scott Blakey was and why he took all the credit when Arjan's the real man.
I think you'll find it's the other way around.

If you want the real deal go with Mr Nice (Shantibaba), not Greenhouse (Arjan). Virtually all of Greenhouse's famous strains such as Super Silver Haze, Mango Haze, White Widow and so on were Shantibaba's creations. Shantibaba left Greenhouse for Mr Nice, but Greenhouse kept selling his creations which is why Mr Nice has renamed some (White Widow to Black Widow for example) so that he can help keep HIS creations unique.
 
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Joe Hawkins

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Shantibaba (Australian) and Neville Schoenmaker (Australian) are two breeders responsible for production of Haze. Neville was responsible for breeding sensi seedbank stock, Shantibaba did Greenhouse.
If it wasnt for these guys the seedbanks of the world would be in a less organised state.
You can thank the Aussies for most of the current world seed breeding, no wonder we have the worlds best pot here. ;)

Go Australia!
 
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I always wondered where Haze came from. I was under the impression it Originated in California.
 

Joe Hawkins

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Haze is basically Mullumbimby Madness, a strain that was heavily prevalent along the north coast of NSW back in the 70's and 80's that has its roots from Colombia and Thailand. This was the strain I basically grew up with.
These days its all indoor hydro (not complaining) but yeh, long gone are the days of waiting for a load to come down from Byron and dry summers with only $200 ounces of leaf available.
From Shanti:

well the mullum madness is the same strain as Nevil's Haze as far as i am concerned. I was one of the growers of Mullum madness back in the late 70s early 80s and it is a combination of selected Thai and Colombians from freaks. NH is only with the Nl5 25%....so it was a little more practical for the indoor scene in Holland."

In Australia, pot is called "Mull", could be short for Mullumbimby Madness, I dunno.
 
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jim dankness

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haze is similar to the madness, in that it was an unstabilized multi-hybrid sativa cross. but the original haze originated in the california bay area (some say santa cruz, others say oakland/hayward) in the late '60's, and came to nevil, along with many other california-bred genetics, via sam the skunkman.

shanti has insinuated he was involved with the mullumbimby madness at some point, but if one does the time line (shanti is a young guy compared to most of that generation of breeders), it wouldn't have been until the early '80s. my guess is that because the madness was an unstabilized multi-hybrid like the haze, shanti did a few generations of relative stabilization.

mullumbimby madness seems to have been used in very, very few modern hybrids & what it has been used in are rare as the proverbial hen's teeth. the only ones i can think of off the top of my head are cog's old mother sativa (which again, sounds like a stabilized version of an older mull.madness) and the vic's gold (which is the madness crossed with two indicas, i believe).
 
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PhenoMenal said:
I think you'll find it's the other way around.

If you want the real deal go with Mr Nice (Shantibaba), not Greenhouse (Arjan). Virtually all of Greenhouse's famous strains such as Super Silver Haze, Mango Haze, White Widow and so on were Shantibaba's creations. Shantibaba left Greenhouse for Mr Nice, but Greenhouse kept selling his creations which is why Mr Nice has renamed some (White Widow to Black Widow for example) so that he can help keep HIS creations unique.

I apologize if my :bashhead: lol :spank: sarcasm didn't get through in my original post. I realize my sarcasm doesn't translate well over the net. :rasta:

I knew Arjan had a split with his breeder just from this site(didin't really care cuz I never bought into his hype.if you watch the you tube grow vids you'll see he knows nothing about growing except smoking). And I knew of Scott Blakey from the vid yrs ago. His vid really hit me hard when I 1st saw it. I just liked his vibe. It really sparked my 1st trip to canada for gentics to start my journey. Well 5yrs later and I'm an interent troll on hear and I hear all this about Shant baba this and shanti baba that. Well it just hit me when I saw another post with the name Scott Blakey and I was like where did I hear that b4? So when it hit me it kinda floored me and make me really happy I had to search for the vid that started it all for me :redface: . Kinda makes me all warm and fuzzy. Now I have a new seed company to buy from too. Now I just hope my 1st set of beans show up from the bay or I'll be disenfrachised frrom gettin more from them. Time will tell.

So whats the best Scott Blakey shyte I should pick when I can which will be soon and how can I get them to the states other than Seedbay just in case I have to use alternate vendors. Thanks. :wave:
 

PhenoMenal

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So whats the best Scott Blakey shyte I should pick when I can which will be soon
Depends on personal preferences - what type of high you prefer, whether you prefer indys or sats, whether you dont mind a long flower period or need a short one, etc etc

and how can I get them to the states other than Seedbay just in case I have to use alternate vendors. Thanks.
Most seedbanks carry Mr Nice (Shantibaba) seeds. Some arent available at the moment, i was lucky enough to find 1 pack of Shantibaba's Limited Edition Mango Haze on Seedbay a couple months ago, 15 seeds for US$80 - bargain :smile:
I have one now 28 days into flower, can't wait, but it's going to be a long wait lol ... hazes :smile:
 

Joe Hawkins

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jim dankness said:
haze is similar to the madness, in that it was an unstabilized multi-hybrid sativa cross. but the original haze originated in the california bay area (some say santa cruz, others say oakland/hayward) in the late '60's, and came to nevil, along with many other california-bred genetics, via sam the skunkman.

shanti has insinuated he was involved with the mullumbimby madness at some point, but if one does the time line (shanti is a young guy compared to most of that generation of breeders), it wouldn't have been until the early '80s. my guess is that because the madness was an unstabilized multi-hybrid like the haze, shanti did a few generations of relative stabilization.

mullumbimby madness seems to have been used in very, very few modern hybrids & what it has been used in are rare as the proverbial hen's teeth. the only ones i can think of off the top of my head are cog's old mother sativa (which again, sounds like a stabilized version of an older mull.madness) and the vic's gold (which is the madness crossed with two indicas, i believe).

You're absolutely right I should have phrased it "Mullumbimby Madness is basically Haze rather than Haze is MM, "...Yeh Word out on the street is Neville aquired it from an american.....yeh anyway, my point being, these guys were pioneers in open seedbanks and bringing this shit available to the world.
basically the same bloodlines, Ive grown many MM from the north coast during the 80's into the early nineties, most get HUGE, I'll post some old polaroids one day, when I dig em out of their hidey hole.
Shanti Mentions he only grew it not bred it, and the prices you could fetch back then for weed was LUDICROUS! Thats why there were many young growers, you could sell an ounce of leaf back in 85 for $100 bux and $200 if it was dry. Buds were anything from 350$ to $600 an ounce, depending on the availability.

The price of pot in Australia has cheapened down to 320$ on the street for good quality hydro 20 years later, I remember my mate gettin 800$ an ounce for Black Putty (Afghan) in 89 when 6 months before he was selling them for 400.
 
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